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It would be a lawyers dream if the surgeon was putting in orders for anesthesia medsAre the surgeons putting in orders for all that propofol, roc and versed. They have to practice 'under the order of a physician,' should've said a physician who is liable for their anesthesia care.
Finally, hopefully, those crNas accept the message… cali ain’t lettin’ them practice independently. However I won’t be surprised if they fight this… they are woefully so egotistical. The statement clearly says they are not allowed to practice medicine. This makes me happy inside![]()
It would be a lawyers dream if the surgeon was putting in orders for anesthesia meds
It would be a lawyers dream if the surgeon was putting in orders for anesthesia meds
Ours have sign an order with similar verbiage to book a case.Surgeons need to write “I order the crna to perform the anesthesia” and sign it on every chart. Then there is no gray area as to who is legally accountable.
Ive never seen that. Why? Why sign an HP you didn’t do?Tangentially related but I worked at a HealthSouth owned surgery center many years ago. That facility required the anesthesiologists to co-sign the podiatrists’ H&Ps. Haven’t seen that for a long time.
Ive never seen that. Why? Why sign an HP you didn’t do?
We do that where I’m at for non-physicians too. I usually just copy paste my pre-anesthesia note. Just a box they need checked.It was explained to me that they needed an H&P from a physician. I signed them even though I don’t know anything about feet.
We would do that for peds dental stuff sometimes. The kids all had h&ps by their pediatrician. Sometimes they weren’t within 30 days, colds, scheduling delays, etc. We were asked to write a new one if the peds one was past 30 days. The dentists couldn’t do it.It was explained to me that they needed an H&P from a physician. I signed them even though I don’t know anything about feet.
Wasn't mentioned because he probably had no idea.Not to derail but we had a retina guy whose H&Ps were so bad we finally forced him to get them from another physician. Once brought a patient with an LVAD and didn’t mention any PMH.
It actually says a clinical psychologist can give the orders
That must be a typo. I think they mean psychiatrists- for ect w sedation I’d imagine. Psychologists don’t have dea numbers right?