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I would be interested in the gram negative spectrum. Right now we have approval for CAP, as it was compared to CTX in clinical trial. Does it have anti-pseudomonal activity, but not tested in trials? Obviously you worry about resistance with these super antbiotics, in if we are using it for just MRSA, are we inducing resistance to G-.... I think of tigecycline which was supposed to be the be all, end all antibiotic and did not live up to the hype.
5th generation...wow, I feel old.
There was an article published in AAC last year with in vitro tests against a bunch of gram-negatives. It had decent activity against non-ESBL Enterobacteriaceae, but imipenem was better on all counts. Very low-level activity against Pseud, so its probably not worth it. They didn't test against cefepime, just levofloxaxin, ceftriaxone and imipinem. I'll see if I have it lying around and post the citation.
Going off of the two trials that got it approved, I really don't think this is going to see that much widespread use.
Or you could just read my post and trust my word that we shouldn't care about it.
I just look at it as a stepped on, ghetto version of ceftobiprole...of course I'm not a fancy ID specialist and I haven't stepped foot in a pharmacy in almost a year, so WTF do I know...
Ceftobiprole never made it to market. The FDA asked J&J to do more clinical trials after they questioned the validity of a few of the trials. I think they gave up on it because I haven't heard anything recently.
They figure out something better than anal massages and Thorazine for hiccups yet?
I used to hold my breath for 10 seconds, but I am definitely trying this next time! Now I just have to wait for the next hiccup attack...
You could rub your eyeballs, too. Vagus nerve stimulation and such...
Ceftobiprole never made it to market. The FDA asked J&J to do more clinical trials after they questioned the validity of a few of the trials. I think they gave up on it because I haven't heard anything recently.
Financially speaking, treatment of MRSA/VRE is what I'm interested in.
Zyvox is around $200 per day IV. Tygacil is useless for MRSA Pneumonia... Dapto is useless for MRSA pneumonia...
So if this cepha can come in below $100 per day, then I may suggest this over Zyvox in places where Vanco is not feasible.
Financially speaking, treatment of MRSA/VRE is what I'm interested in.
Zyvox is around $200 per day IV. Tygacil is useless for MRSA Pneumonia... Dapto is useless for MRSA pneumonia...
So if this cepha can come in below $100 per day, then I may suggest this over Zyvox in places where Vanco is not feasible.
Well certainly in the oncology setting when we worry about thrombocytopenia associated with linezolid use (even though rare), its still gives us another option.
Daptomycin...
Is a being a cancer patient a contraindication for linezolid therapy? When do we usually see thrombocyopenia develop?
It isn't a contraindication per se, but in liquid tumors the idea behind therapy is to be myelosuppressive which means in a lot of patients will have thrombocytopenia as a result. So if they have an active infection they will surely be on antibiotics for at least a few weeks, especially if they are experiencing febrile neutropenia. The risk of thrombocytopenia increases as the duration of therapy increases. So the question becomes why take the risk if there are other options.
Daptomycin works, except for those cases that are pneumonia. A lot of them are pneumonia, but a lot of them are sensitive to vanco anyways. In bone marrow transplant, this probably would see more action because patients are kept more in house and infections are the nocosomial sort.
Good, now you're thinking.
My next question for the group....
Enterococcus is commonly isolated in 2 species. VRE is more commonly associated with 1 strain of enterococcus (~80%). What is the strain and what about this strain may make the use of this new drug questionable? Does this then bring us back to the dapto vs. linezolid question?
too easy..
Good, now you're thinking.
My next question for the group....
Enterococcus is commonly isolated in 2 species. VRE is more commonly associated with 1 strain of enterococcus (~80%). What is the strain and what about this strain may make the use of this new drug questionable? Does this then bring us back to the dapto vs. linezolid question?
dang it..a group of 8 middle aged vacationing women took up the entire first class...preventing an upgrade on a long flite to an exotic island! people shouldnt be vacationing in november!😡
thats because many peeps here are still haunted by the 300K debt- thread to see the significance of your predicament.
quite frankly, I thought it was exhibitionist at best. Anyways, enjoy your exotic venture.
I'm not vacationing. I'm working. What maybe be an exotic vacation destination to many is really a 3rd world country behind a facade. There's really nothing glamourous about doing consulting work at a poor indigent 3rd world country hospital.
I don't know jack about this thread but I do know that pharmacists who stand before the public don't deserve the respect. That is all.
Nov 4 issue of pharmacotherapy has a review article. I have it but didn't read it line by line...I just read the abstract and the summary.
Seems to be well written.
I just look at it as a stepped on, ghetto version of ceftobiprole...of course I'm not a fancy ID specialist and I haven't stepped foot in a pharmacy in almost a year, so WTF do I know...
I am with you on this one.....however, a beta lactam active against ORSA is impressive to me.
You're alive!
Can you think of a reason for me to have been hiding under a rock lately?? I mean, let us be clear, it wasn't due to the TIM TEBOW TOUCHDOWN Sunday......I know you were cheering.
They let him play...like...in a game? Amazing.
I believe his stats for the season are as follows:
2 carries, 2 yards, 2 touchdowns. So they let him in 2 real games.
I am pretty sure they will invite him to New York this year as a Heisman finalist.
I didn't know I was being quizzed. I thought you were asking me for my personal opinion in the matter. All the same, we still try to avoid linezolid when we can.
You mean issue 4 (April 2010)?? By the Vancomycin King?
No just discussing what you think is the best therapy. So if not linezolid, then?
btw,
If y'all want the article, send me a PM with your email addy..b-day, SS#...full name..and address.
Maybe I'll get dressed and go to work now 👎 instead of drinking coffee looking out a beautiful tropical cove..
I suck at ID, I wish I were better. anyone have an online guide that isn't the CDC website?