Chance me: 3.42 GPA, MCAT?, strong clinical ECs.

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Hey all,

I'm applying to roughly 15 midwest MD and DO schools. I'd like to know what my chances are given my GPA and ECs, primarily, and which schools in the midwest I should apply towards. I'm hoping for the best on my most recent MCAT (I feel that my recent test went very well, but am gun-shy given my previous attempt 4 months ago - a 26 (8/7/11), despite an average AAMC of 31.5 - so will withhold conjecture and continue being superstitious). --- UPDATE: Score is a 33 (12/10/11).

Background: Graduated in May, 2011. MN resident. Private undergrad. White male. I didn't know I wanted to be a doctor until after I graduated. I was 90% sure I wanted to be a PA, but after scribing for a month and spending every subsequent waking minute on Medscape, looking over medical school lectures, etc. when not scribing, I changed my mind.

cGPA: 3.42 (B.S. Biology).

ECs:
- 4-year starter for college football team (1 year all-conference; senior year captain).
- 1 year as a medical scribe; 7 months training (hand-selected by MDs to train in after 5 months).
- 6 months as a PCA for a male quadriplegic.
- 6 months (still employed here) as a surgical/hospital technician in charge of assisting with placement, maintenance, and troubleshooting of arterial/venous/PA lines, temporary pacemakers, intra-aortic balloon pumps (certified "specialist"), helping with point-of-care lab testing, as well as newer techniques involving platelet-rich plasma and bone-marrow aspirate (stem cell) injections, autologous blood transfusions, assistance with regional nerve blocks, and basically anything an anesthesiologist, surgeon, CRNA, nurse, etc., needs help with.
- Several summers volunteering at a therapeutic riding center, but this trailed off during college (worth putting in app?)
- ~50 hours volunteering at Shriner's Children's Hospital.
- Typical shadowing experiences with PCP, but don't feel much more is needed given the literal shadowing I've done as a scribe and with current job.

I'd like to get involved in clinical research as well, and will be taking on a second job part-time now that I'm done with the MCAT for the year, so I hope to work with the cardiologists at the heart institute connected to our hospital. I also realllly want to get involved in a non-profit I can see myself sticking with for the long haul.

My clinical ECs I feel are the strongest part of my app (GPA is worst), but any suggestions on improvements to my resume (even what MCAT score I likely need), comments, and ideas on where to apply are greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Ordinarily I'd say that with the well below avg GPA, that you should target only the low tier schools, but having such outstanding Ecs, plus being a 4-year ball player, plus doing pretty good for a student athelete, I'd say you should target some mid-tier schools as well.

For MCAT best to have >30 (10/10/10 minimum). Your might have a decent chance at U MN, plus the other state schools int hemidwest, except perhaps U MI. You should havbe no problem with DO program sunless you tank them CAT.

Good luck!

Hey all,

I'm applying to roughly 15 midwest MD and DO schools. I'd like to know what my chances are given my GPA and ECs, primarily, and which schools in the midwest I should apply towards. I'm hoping for the best on my most recent MCAT (I feel that my recent test went very well, but am gun-shy given my previous attempt 4 months ago - a 26, despite an average AAMC of 31.5 - so will withhold conjecture and continue being superstitious).

Background: Graduated in May, 2011. MN resident. Private undergrad. White male. I didn't know I wanted to be a doctor until after I graduated. I was 90% sure I wanted to be a PA, but after scribing for a month and spending every subsequent waking minute on Medscape, looking over medical school lectures, etc. when not scribing, I changed my mind.

cGPA: 3.42 (B.S. Biology).

ECs:
- 4-year starter for college football team (1 year all-conference; senior year captain).
- 1 year as a medical scribe; 7 months training (hand-selected by MDs to train in after 5 months).
- 6 months as a PCA for a male quadriplegic.
- 6 months (still employed here) as a surgical/hospital technician in charge of assisting with placement, maintenance, and troubleshooting of arterial/venous/PA lines, temporary pacemakers, intra-aortic balloon pumps (certified "specialist"), helping with point-of-care lab testing, as well as newer techniques involving platelet-rich plasma and bone-marrow aspirate (stem cell) injections, autologous blood transfusions, assistance with regional nerve blocks, and basically anything an anesthesiologist, surgeon, CRNA, nurse, etc., needs help with.
- Several summers volunteering at a therapeutic riding center, but this trailed off during college (worth putting in app?)
- ~50 hours volunteering at Shriner's Children's Hospital.
- Typical shadowing experiences with PCP, but don't feel much more is needed given the literal shadowing I've done as a scribe and with current job.

I'd like to get involved in clinical research as well, and will be taking on a second job part-time now that I'm done with the MCAT for the year, so I hope to work with the cardiologists at the heart institute connected to our hospital. I also realllly want to get involved in a non-profit I can see myself sticking with for the long haul.

My clinical ECs I feel are the strongest part of my app (GPA is worst), but any suggestions on improvements to my resume (even what MCAT score I likely need), comments, and ideas on where to apply are greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
Thanks, Goro! I was hoping you'd post. I'm praying for a mid-30's MCAT, and the U of MN is at the top of my list. I also like OSU. I'm just praying for a mid-30's score.
 
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MCAT is a 33 (12/10/11). Anyone have any further insight with this new information? What are my chances at the U of MN, Ohio State, or Medical College of Wisconsin?

Thanks!
 
You like doubled your acceptance rate by scoring that 33!! Awesome job! I think we both took the same test, july 13! I got owned in verbal(7), but still hit my average total. I had a 23 the first time, I feel much confident now.

You have strong clinical activities and being an athlete is probably unique!

Only weakness I can see is non-clinical activities like volunteering at tutoring or community service involvement which i think you can work on during the gap year! Besides that, I think you have a solid chance with your MCAT score!

If you have a list of schools you're interested in, I can look up the range of stats since I have access to msar! PM me!
 
You like doubled your acceptance rate by scoring that 33!! Awesome job! I think we both took the same test, july 13! I got owned in verbal(7), but still hit my average total. I had a 23 the first time, I feel much confident now.

You have strong clinical activities and being an athlete is probably unique!

Only weakness I can see is non-clinical activities like volunteering at tutoring or community service involvement which i think you can work on during the gap year! Besides that, I think you have a solid chance with your MCAT score!

If you have a list of schools you're interested in, I can look up the range of stats since I have access to msar! PM me!

Thank you! I definitely felt my 26 was fluky (I scored 3 points lower than my average in both VR and PS). I also saw your improvement, so nice job with that as well!

I agree, community service needs work. I was just pretty busy during college with 20-30 hours/week devoted to football to volunteer that much. I'm volunteering at Ten for 10 | Water for Africa! as a social media guy currently haha. It seems like an easy way to volunteer my time and get info out for a good cause. I also landed the research position, so I'm pumped!

I just don't know which schools to apply to... are you applying to schools where your stats align primarily? Right now, I'm only picking schools where my stats align or I could see myself living permanently for the most part. I also seem to just be picking schools I've heard of... :/

My preliminary list:
University of Minnesota
Mayo (white male non-friendly, though)
Colorado (non-trad friendly?)
Georgetown
George Washington
Loyola-Stritch
Louisville
Maryland
Michigan State (high OOS tuition 🙁)
UNC
Wake Forest
North Dakota (would have best chance as far as MD schools)
Ohio State
Cincinnati
Oregon (OHSU)
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech (have a good friend that goes there)
VCU
Vermont
UWash
MC of Wisconsin

Des Moines (Iowa) is the only DO school I'm familiar with. I know they are v. competitive as far as DO schools are concerned.

Help trim or add to this list?
 
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My chances went up a lot with the increased mcat although I really wanted to break 30! darn verbal!

List: with added range/10% percentile,

University of Minnesota: 28-37/3.44-3.98
Mayo (white male non-friendly, though: 30-38, 3.65-4.0
Colorado (non-trad friendly?): 30-38, 3.46-3.98
Georgetown: 29-37, 3.38-3.96
George Washington: 27-35, 3.48-3.91
Loyola-Stritch: 29-37, 3.29-3.95
Louisville: 27-36, 3.35-3.97
Maryland:29-36, 3.56-3.97
Michigan State (high OOS tuition ): 26-34, 3.24-3.94
UNC:27-35,3.53-3.99
Wake Forest: 28-38, 3.29-3.96
North Dakota (would have best chance as far as MD schools)
Ohio State: 30-38, 3.43-3.98
Cincinnati 29-38, 3.38-3.98
Oregon (OHSU)
Vanderbilt 32-39, 3.6-3.99
Virginia Tech (have a good friend that goes there)
VCU
Vermont
UWash high in-state preference
MC of Wisconsin, 27-35, 3.5-3.97

Red=reach, Blue=You meet the range and you have a good chance, Black=mcat meets range but not GPA, maybe apply.

In the end, you have a solid list of schools! Very broad! Maybe apply to a couple more reach schools if you have the money...you never know!

Also, I'll be borrowing some of these schools! Take a look at my thread on here, would appreciate some feedback! 🙂
 
Thank you for that! Very helpful. I will take a look at your thread and see if I can help out at all. How are you picking your schools?
 
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