Chances for this DO matching ACGME EM

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  1. pathologyDO

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    Hey there!

    Disclaimer: I have only a COMLEX score, no USMLE

    I just received my COMLEX I score and it was ~520. I'm curious if anyone would be able to answer what my chances at matching an ACGME EM spot would be. Right now I have a publication in the works (not 1st author, however) and have no red flags.
     
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    Use the search function.
    The standard by which ACGME programs judge you is your USMLE score. Plan on taking USMLE Step II if you want to apply ACGME EM.
     
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    Highly unlikely without a USMLE(well you might get into a program that has trouble filling....)
     
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    Is it possible to take usmle step II without a step I?
     
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    If I were in your position, I'd be concerned enough to look that information up myself. Just saying.
     
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    Roughly 60 DOs took Step II last year- usually a COMLEX I+II and a Step I is enough.
     
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    Wow, as if my situation is ****ty. Thanks dude
     
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    I wouldn't characterize it as "****ty," but it would be worth my while to find out myself, if it were me. Anyhow, it's my understanding that you do not need to take the Steps in order and you could take Step 2 w/o Step 1. Know that you'll have to answer why you didn't take Step 1, though.

    It won't be impossible for you to match, but you'll make it a lot easier to get where you want to go if you had taken USMLE. Contact the individual programs you're interested in to get a better idea.
     
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    Yes it is possible.
     
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    You are behind the curve at this point. Take USMLE Step II and do above avg (230+). Do well 3rd year. Set up at least two audition rotations at ACGME residencies early (July-Aug) and get two great SLOEs. You can still match but it is an uphill battle. If you just have COMLEX scores it will be very difficult. Also do your research in six months and see what programs have taken DOs. Apply broadly. If you don't have a mentor, get one. If you can't find one at your school look on SAEM website for online mentors.

    Again you still have a shot, but do better.
     
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    I believe the point of my post was "do your homework if you're this worried about not matching into your specialty of choice".

    Take it however you want. I'm also a DO student, FWIW.
     
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    At minimum I'd take USMLE 2. If you really want to boost your chances take USMLE 1 as well. If you just got your COMLEX 1 score I'm guessing you are starting 3rd year now? You should still be able to take USMLE 1.
     
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    Your goal as an osteopathic student is to enter an allopathic residency solely with an osteopathic exam and not the allopathic exam with the hope that you will be compared equally to other allopathic applicant. Is this correct?
     
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    Was wondering if I could get some advice from SDN regarding not necessarily WAMC but how many programs and maybe some feed back on my current list. Posting here instead of making a new thread.

    Desire academic EM, research, teaching.

    PhD biochemistry, 4 years, tons of pubs in and prior to med school
    DO student, top 10-20ish%, no class rank
    SSP (do's crappy version of AOA)
    USMLE 1 & 2: 250/260
    Level 1 & 2: 640/630
    3rd year: 5 honors, 5 or 6 pass
    4th year: HP & Honors in EM at 2 very large & respected academic centers
    various leadership positions in aam/rsa, teaching, part time job, etc
    no red flags
    per eras, like 5 work experiences, 14 volunteer experiences, 6 research experiences

    Received advice for 10-15 interviews resulting in about 30-35 applications. My list includes a mix of large academic centers, a few reaches, lots of solid community/hybrid programs. Currently list is 35. Would like to stay midwest, and not considering Mich*gan (go bucks!). I feel like I should have some lesser prestige programs, but I would like to end up career-wise at an academic center, and if it wasn't for the the whole DO thing, I think most of the programs on the list would be very appropriate.

    *not in any specific order, just a random order from my current spread sheet

    University of FL - Gainsville Gainesville FL
    Orlando Health Program Orlando FL
    University of FL - Jacksonville Jacksonville FL
    Indiana University Indianapolis IN
    University of Kentucky Lexington KY
    University of Louisville Louisville KY
    Case Western Reserve Cleveland OH
    Case Western Reserve/MetroHealth Cleveland OH
    Ohio State Columbus OH
    Wright State Kettering OH
    Denver Health Medical Ctr Denver CO
    George Washington University Washington DC
    Emory University Atlanta GA
    Advocate Christ Medical Ctr Oak Lawn IL
    Ressurection Chicago IL
    University of Illionis Chicago Chicago IL
    Cook County Chicago IL
    University of Maryland Baltimore MD
    Johns Hopkins Baltimore MD
    Akron General Akron OH
    Summa Health Akron OH
    University of Cincinnati Cincinnati OH
    University of South FL Tampa FL
    Duke Durham NC
    Wake Forest Winston-Salem NC
    Maimonides Medical Ctr Brooklyn NY
    SUNY Health Science Brooklyn NY
    Penn State Hershey PA
    Virginia Tech Rowanoke VA
    University of Virginia Charlottesville VA
    Eastern Virginia Medical School Norfolk VA
    Virginia Commonwealth Richmond VA
    Staten Island University Staten Island NY
    New York Methodist Brooklyn NY
    New York Hospital Medical Ctr Flushing NY

    Thank you for any help/advice.
     
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    Have OSU/Denver/Cincy taken a DO?
     
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    Denver, yes. From what I've gathered, they all did an AI to land an interview there = cough up $4000.
     
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    That fee policy is crap. I have a friend who is a DO and interviewed there last year without rotating there.
     
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    Yes Denver and and OSU have, I also have a rotation at OSU coming up and they said they interview several DO's a year, just many don't end up matching. Denver, I ran into a faculty at a conference and he said to apply. Cinci is a long shot and fully expect to get rejected but they have interviewed a DO in the past and I figured I have the stats to at least get a look at (albeit they have never taken a DO). its only $20
     
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    A couple of schools do that, UFL Gainesville is another. $800 per week tuition, and still doesn't pay for room and board, food, or transportation.
     
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    Not true. I know a DO who matched there without an audition.
     
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