Charting the outcomes 2013

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Does a new Charting the Outcomes come out this year? The last one was published in august of 2011 and it is on a two year cycle if I remember right.

So should the next one be out this august? Anyone know?
 
One of the deans at my school said that there wouldn't be a new one this year because the data was so similar to the 2011 version. Not sure if that's true or not, or how the dean would know that info, but that's what I was told.
 
helvetica said:
One of the deans at my school said that there wouldn't be a new one this year because the data was so similar to the 2011 version. Not sure if that's true or not, or how the dean would know that info, but that's what I was told.
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Yeah I doubt that's true. They'd still publish one even if all the data were the same. At the very least I'm expecting some metrics/statistics that weren't included in the last report.
 
helvetica said:
One of the deans at my school said that there wouldn't be a new one this year because the data was so similar to the 2011 version. Not sure if that's true or not, or how the dean would know that info, but that's what I was told.
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I've heard the same from the Assistant Dean at my school.
 
Apparently there will not be a new one because ERAS and NRMP split up this year. Somewhere in that divorce process, data sharing between the two became more difficult and they weren't able to get it out this year. At least that's what our dean told is.
 
I emailed the NRMP and got this response.

Mr. X,

It is very unlikely that there is a Charting Outcomes in the Match report for the year 2013. At this point the NBME has not agreed to release to the NRMP their USMLE scores, which is an integral part of the report. The NRMP is working on obtaining the scores for the 2014 Match, however. So hopefully we can publish the report again next year.
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That sucks. I loved going through their data.
 
ijn said:
I emailed the NRMP and got this response.

Mr. X,

It is very unlikely that there is a Charting Outcomes in the Match report for the year 2013. At this point the NBME has not agreed to release to the NRMP their USMLE scores, which is an integral part of the report. The NRMP is working on obtaining the scores for the 2014 Match, however. So hopefully we can publish the report again next year.
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That sucks. I loved going through their data.
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Well, ****. I was looking forward to the updated data 🙁
Thanks for sharing
 
ijn said:
I emailed the NRMP and got this response.

Mr. X,




It is very unlikely that there is a Charting Outcomes in the Match report for the year 2013. At this point the NBME has not agreed to release to the NRMP their USMLE scores, which is an integral part of the report. The NRMP is working on obtaining the scores for the 2014 Match, however. So hopefully we can publish the report again next year.
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That sucks. I loved going through their data.
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🙁
 
Bummer, EM has gotten more competitive over the last few years so I am pretty sure that the numbers would have gone up in that field. It would have been nice to know for planning the number of schools to apply to. Advisers do help but stats are useful as well for the paranoid :scared:
 
Why is the NBME being such babies? Why won't the release the scores so students have a better idea on their likelihood of matching. It's not like they are dealing with people's careers or anything.
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Brigade4Radiant said:
Why is the NBME being such babies? Why won't the release the scores so students have a better idea on their likelihood of matching. It's not like they are dealing with people's careers or anything.
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If KTD's post below is true, the release doesn't seem that simple.

KTD said:
Apparently there will not be a new one because ERAS and NRMP split up this year. Somewhere in that divorce process, data sharing between the two became more difficult and they weren't able to get it out this year. At least that's what our dean told is.
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It looks like they're not gonna release a 2013 version per a recent question and response on the NRMP's Facebook page. Sucks, I love perusing the 2011 version.
 
ktd said:
apparently there will not be a new one because eras and nrmp split up this year. Somewhere in that divorce process, data sharing between the two became more difficult and they weren't able to get it out this year. At least that's what our dean told is.
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this is definitely not cool!!!!!!
 
I have no idea why we stand for this as medical students, residency programs, and faculty.

This process needs to be transparent.

Can anyone explain to me the actual match algorithm? Yes, I understand the if A ranks B 1 and B ranks A 1 they describe. How many iterations do they run? Are they all the same? Why does it take several weeks?

Why does it cost so much? Certainly, we could devise a free, open-source application process. Someone is, likely many people are, making their living off of this process and, frankly, their customer support is horrible.
 
neusu said:
I have no idea why we stand for this as medical students, residency programs, and faculty.

This process needs to be transparent.

Can anyone explain to me the actual match algorithm? Yes, I understand the if A ranks B 1 and B ranks A 1 they describe. How many iterations do they run? Are they all the same? Why does it take several weeks?

Why does it cost so much? Certainly, we could devise a free, open-source application process. Someone is, likely many people are, making their living off of this process and, frankly, their customer support is horrible.
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There is an actual link explaining the algorithm on their website.
 
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