chiropractor calling himself a physican????

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gis2011 said:
You're not offending me jagger, I'm a second year at an MD school. What you are doing is failing to see that the difference between DO school's admissions numbers isn't necessarily a whole lot higher than these POD schools/people that you apparently "have no respect for". I don't know what these 5 DO schools that you interviewed at have told you, but it's no surprise for a DO school to accept people with MCATs around a 23. (for example, I know VCOM had an MCAT average of 23 or 24 within the last 2 years...they may be up to a 25 now...)

People who live in glass houses and all that...but congrats on your acceptance...and try to respect others, you'll go further in medicine.
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I said I wasn't going to post in this thread again, but I had to address an issue you brought up. The original quoted post of mine was from 4/10/2009. I just did some research and realized that I made this post while in a heated period with NDs (Nauropaths) discussion, and was clearly in an extremely angry mood. What I said was ignorant and foolish, and I completely take back what I said. It's lame to say that you don't respect an aspect of healthcare based on entrance stats alone, and I really regret even saying that. This doesn't change how I feel about the difference between DO/DPM stats (I outlined this in my last few posts), but it was still an ignorant thing to say, and I apologize!!
 
I understand what you are saying but like I stated, yes there are some DO schools with stellar stats but you must compare averages. Average DO is 3.45/25 and average DPM is 3.2/22. IMO this is not a big difference.

And to address something about your post. In the DO world, older schools/more established are better. Not because of age but because of rotation sites...older schools should have better rotation sites at teaching hospitals rather than community clinics. This is not the case with podiatry schools. No matter how old or new podiatry schools are...they are pretty much on the exact same footing since all schools are open to the same exact rotation sites as any other school. All of our podiatry rotation sites are at teaching hospitals or VA's. Not saying anything negative about your post...just wanted to clarify a little something about the Pod world.

BTW no hard feelings on your older comments. I have had the chance to discuss podiatry with you a bunch of times on this forum...and at times it has gotten a little heated but I have also noticed your opinions toward podiatry has changed quite a bit along the way. Good luck to you and your acceptances.

Oh and I might be attending DMU's podiatry program so I might see some of you DO's for first year.
 
I'm not taking sides or entirely sure of what's going on with this DPM/DO discussion. But I see numbers being thrown around and just want to say, they are close in my mind too. Regardless, who cares?

Random factoid that had me post (since you were discussing high numbers for applicants): PCOM's, a top 5 (or 3 or 1 😛) school in the DO world, only had a 3.5/25.8 combo for my class. Numbers truly aren't everything. Why argue about them so much?
 
The bottom line is not acceptance scores & GPAs.
The bottom line is a combination of 1.) education, which directly affects 2.)scope of practice potential, which is legally bound to 3.) liscensure.

For as much as I've railed on podiatry, at least it's a medically recognized field, and when bound by educational & liscensing constraints, has it's place in patient care.

The entire premise of chiropractic, however, is a joke: I'll take tons of x-rays of your spine / various joints (just because I can bill for it, not because I have significant radiographic experience), tell you how out-of-whack you are, and over the course of multiple treatments (depending on how good your insurance is or how much you can pay cash), I'll crack some joints, give you some orthotics, tell you how all these misalligned joints are throwing your entire body out of sync.

Only catch is you have to come back over and over for this stuff to work.

What a freakin' scam.

My wife had a coworker in tears the other day not just because she was in such great physical pain from the physicality of the treatments (she had bruises on her glutes) but because she felt like she was completely taken advantage of.

And THAT'S where the illegitimacy of chiropractic lies: using 4-yrs of post baccalaureate education in quasi science & tangential biologic principles to perpetuate the myth that chiropracters have medical knowledge sufficient to call themselves "doctors," and subsequently read radiographs, fix "subluxed" vertebrae, and suck insurance companies for all they can get because patients don't know any better.

Chiropractic is the joke of 20th century medicine.
 
homeboy said:
My wife had a coworker in tears the other day not just because she was in such great physical pain from the physicality of the treatments (she had bruises on her glutes) but because she felt like she was completely taken advantage of.
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An n of 1. Now there's some powerful data.
 
I have a good friend that is a chiropractor and is honest/legit (which are vary rare these days). He doesn't make a lot of money compared to some of his colleagues that are all about long term treatment plans- three times a week for months, but he stays within his scope and he refers out if no progress is made.

One thing I noticed about chiropractors, they like to make sure that everyone knows they are a "Doctor". It doesn't matter where they are, they introduce themselves as Dr. so an so. Not a big deal, but funny. Down the road when someone asks me what I do for a living, I will reply that I am a nurse. I don't want the negative attention that might harm myself or my family from criminals.

Just out of curiosity, what is the story behind you Facetguy? Are you pursuing medicine? I ask this because I was once interested in chiropractic, but have changed my mind.
 
facetguy said:
An n of 1. Now there's some powerful data.
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I was illustrating my point, not purporting a scientific study tough guy, that point being chiros are like used-car & timeshare salesmen.

Biting plates, I have friends that are chiros also. A classmate from med school did it for ~10 yrs before doing medical school. I just don't see what anyone sees in a career in chiropractic, other than an easy opportunity to make $ in a quasi-biological field that carries a 4-yr degree.
 
homeboy said:
I was illustrating my point, not purporting a scientific study tough guy, that point being chiros are like used-car & timeshare salesmen.

Biting plates, I have friends that are chiros also. A classmate from med school did it for ~10 yrs before doing medical school. I just don't see what anyone sees in a career in chiropractic, other than an easy opportunity to make $ in a quasi-biological field that carries a 4-yr degree.
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At least we can all be thankful that your classmate was a charlatan, scam artist, and general scumbag for only 10 years.
 
Motion to drop the POD vs DO average stats discussion ....
 
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