Cincinnati SMP - On subsequently applying to Ohio schools and state residency

[chowchilla]

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The Cincinnati SMP website gives the following statement as a benefit of the program:

"Will qualify out-of-state students for Ohio residency and subsequent application to the numerous medical schools in our state."

I don't understand how this works.

Let's say I get accepted by UC for the SMP class this fall. Classes start sometime in August, but of course I'll have already started applying to medical schools in the summer. When I fill out AMCAS, I cannot put down OH as my state of residence. How can I then apply to Ohio schools in the meanwhile? If I put down anything else, will they not cut me off the bat because I'm not a Ohio resident? Or is UC's 'benefit' assuming that students are going to apply AFTER completing the program? OR am I supposed to put down Ohio as my state of residency just because I will be a resident by the time I matriculate?

Thank you for your help.

 

[braluk]

Basically this is what happens-

There are two ways you can qualify for Residency for ohio. 1) you have to live here for a year, demonstrate some financial capability (loans count), register your vehicle here if you have one, register to vote here, and then register for a driver's license here. 2) Be married to someone who accepts a job offer in Ohio (in which case you can get residency here instantly)

If you can get residency right away (option 2), the instate status works in your favor when you apply in the same year that you matriculate to the SMP (assuming you applying that summer before you start your SMP). If you'll have to go through option 1 and live in Ohio a year before you get your residency, this will benefit people who will have a lag year (i.e. wasn't accepted into medical school the first time around or applying in the year after their SMP is over) After garnering the residency status, applying to most of the med shcools (7 of the 8?) in Ohio will provide you with in-state status. You can also let schools know that you will be applying for residency in Ohio in the "any other comments" section of secondaries but you cannot officially put down Ohio as your state of residency until the state court of Ohio declares you so.

 

[chowchilla]

thanks for the detailed answer. since option 2's out of the question, i guess there's no real benefit then for me ... 🙁

 

[braluk]

Well, putting it in the any comments section still can give you an edge. Also, I dont know, but you might also qualify for residency in Ohio if you accept a job here (I think it depends on the job). This might mean if you come in the summer before the SMP starts to work here, you may automatically be granted Ohio status. You may want to take a look into this.

Also- although you might get a lag year if you dont get accepted the first time around, Ohio is still one of the easiest states to become a resident of. 7 med schools would then be at your disposal for the next year.

 

[medanthgirl]

yeah it basically means if you have no other way to obtain immediate residency status, your year spent at the smp qualifies you for instate residency. some schools in ohio are more ammenable to out of state candidates than others, OSU does not consider residency (is what i was told when i applied there), i think up to 25-30% of UC's class is out of state too. WSU, NEUCOM and Toledo favor instate much more heavily though. Case Western is private and very competitive. if someone is going to be in this program and is o.o.s. it's definately worth applying to the at least the first 2 schools mentioned though i think.

 

[Hallm_7]

Toledo doesn't favor in-state residents any more than OSU or Cincy. We can take up to 30% out of state legally, and we pretty much hit that every year. I can't speak for WSU's requirements, and NEOUCOM doesn't take many people outside of the BA/MD program anyway.

If you live in Ohio for a year because of a post-bac, you will get in-state tuition for the year you matriculate to med school regardless of what state you said you applied from. I did this, and other people do this. A court never has to determine your residency status, it will be the registrar at whatever school you apply to. The requirements are that your parents can't claim you on their taxes, if you have a car you need to register it in Ohio, and show proof of your residency (lease). It also helps to register to vote and get an Ohio drivers license although I don't believe they are required. The one that gets most people in trouble is making sure your parents don't claim you and making sure they don't pay for your school (that shows support for you and can negate your residency status otherwise).

Also, there's actually a third option for legal residency in Ohio, and I know a few people that have used this through Toledo's post-bac program. If you work in a lab (doesn't have to be a lab...that's just the most common route) and make money there is a clause somewhere in the law that immediately makes you an Ohio resident. I have a good friend from Cali that did this and received in-state tuition when he talked to the registrar.

I don't see why you couldn't put ohio down as your residency. By the time you matriculate you will be an Ohio resident (actually you'd be an Ohio resident by the time they considered your application most likely). Obviously that would require you to revoke your residency status from your original state, but it might be worth it.