Cincinnati SMP Question

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For the Cincinnati SMP application, they ask for a "statement of purpose"... Any thoughts on whether this is something that they want to be Cincinnati specific, or if something along the lines of an AMCAS personal statement would be appropriate?
 
For the Cincinnati SMP application, they ask for a "statement of purpose"... Any thoughts on whether this is something that they want to be Cincinnati specific, or if something along the lines of an AMCAS personal statement would be appropriate?


Normally something along the lines of an AMCAS statement would be acceptable, but if you really want to get in, why don't you personalize the PS and include a paragraph or two about why you see yourself as a good "fit" for the program and how you'll benefit from it? I think it reflects better on your overall application if you research the program and incorporate it into your statement of purpose.
 
What I wrote was why I wanted to do the program, why it was a good fit, and why cincy was the right place for me. Another thing that I added was why I felt that I would be a successful student, and the extenuating life circumstances that prevented me from doing better before.
 
What I wrote was why I wanted to do the program, why it was a good fit, and why cincy was the right place for me. Another thing that I added was why I felt that I would be a successful student, and the extenuating life circumstances that prevented me from doing better before.

Were you accepted, or are you just applying now? If you do go there, what is your assessment of the program? It seems like the percentage of people that get accepted after the cincy program has dropped slightly over the past year or two.
 
I am indeed @ UC. The program is very good but plan on working very hard. I wouldn't stress about the lack of admitted people, as more have been admitted than the website reveals. Also, contrary to popular belief (which I swear is due solely to SDN), it is NOT a linkage program. Good luck!
 
I am indeed @ UC. The program is very good but plan on working very hard. I wouldn't stress about the lack of admitted people, as more have been admitted than the website reveals. Also, contrary to popular belief (which I swear is due solely to SDN), it is NOT a linkage program. Good luck!

Do in state students have an advantage over OOS students?
 
Am I going crazy or if the cincinnati really 64 credits? Everywhere else it seems to be 20-30 credits, how are they doing twice that in the same amount of time? That seems insane to me!
 
I am indeed @ UC. The program is very good but plan on working very hard. I wouldn't stress about the lack of admitted people, as more have been admitted than the website reveals. Also, contrary to popular belief (which I swear is due solely to SDN), it is NOT a linkage program. Good luck!


Could you share your stats from when you entered the program? Did you apply to med school during/before the program or will you apply in the upcoming cycle? Thanks!
 
Nope, you are not going crazy about the 64 credits. It is a serious workload! It for a good reason that the UC SMP is developing a good reputation very quickly! If you can succeed you are gonna really do even better later! My stats are low 3's for GPA and >>30 MCAT.

I did apply during this year, and had an OK response, 2 MD and 3 DO interviews thus far. It has been tough balancing the application process with the highest pressure workload I have ever experienced.

A fair amount of the people in the program are from OH, but I can only conjecture if they actually favor OH residents (i have hunch they don't).

Start applying now! Good luck to all of you guys!
 
What kind of stats get you into the Cincinatti SMP program.
 
What kind of stats get you into the Cincinatti SMP program.


Generally you're competitive if your GPA is above 3.0 and your MCATs are above 30, but off course, the higher your stats are, the better your chances are of being accepted.
 
Are you guys doing overall better than the med student average? And have any of you been accepted to medical school yet? Any to Cincinnati?
 
Are you guys doing overall better than the med student average? And have any of you been accepted to medical school yet? Any to Cincinnati?


Most people do better on average than the med students. A few have been accepted to medical school already and there are at least 2 people in the programs right now who have already been accepted to Cincinnati.
 
Though not updated for this year's class yet (it's too early), on my Ask A Cincy SMP Grad Anything thread in this same Post-Bac forum, I have a comprehensive list of schools that past UC SMP grads have been interviewed at and/or accepted to. This list has been verified with the director of the program, as well as my own personal knowledge. Once the app cycle for this year's SMP class has come to a close, I'll see where they got interviews/acceptances and update the list if needed. I do know that several of them, as mentioned on here, have gotten interviews, including to schools such as UC (accepted students), Ohio State (accepted a student), New England College of Osteopathic Medicine, Western Univ (DO school in California), and Nova Southeastern (DO school in Florida - accepted a student). There are/will be probably more.

The program is now in it's 4th year of existence and has one hell of a good reputation for being so young. You can't really look at trends of acceptances, because some UC SMP grads (regardless of how well they performed in the program) decide medicine isn't for them and go into other fields (dentistry, business, etc.). It should be noted that the program could theoretically just as easily prepare you for applying to dental and podiatry school, although the vast majority are going for med school. Also, some grads (like I did) wait a year to apply to med school, so you may not being seeing the entire picture. But take a look at that list...

Here's the link to that particular post in my UC SMP thread. http://more.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=8391041&postcount=17


The personal statement is just what it sounds like. You can use elements from your AMCAS personal statement of course, but I would tailor it to why you're applying to this SMP, what you like about this program/hope to gain from it, and maybe some explanations for your lackluster stats or whatever reasons for needing an SMP at all.

The barest minimum GPA is 3.0, but let's be frank here. This program has tripled in popularity and competitiveness since I was in it's second class. You will probably not get in with a 3.0 and a 30 these days, though it's not impossible. I would put the true minimum closer to 3.2 nowadays. And if you have a low MCAT, you need to retake it and make sure you tell them you're planning on retaking it. NOTE, this SMP does not have MCAT prep included and you will be hard pressed to study for it/take it while you're in the program. So retake it before or after.

I don't know the credit count, but I'll take your word for it that it's 64. It is A LOT of work people. And I can tell you, med school has been even more work. Welcome to the big leagues! BUT, it is very manageable if you put the effort in and organize your time efficiently, trust me. In a sick way, it's a good thing in that this program will force you to manage your time in a way you probably never thought possible...because if you don't, you'll probably crash and burn. Remember...simply passing these SMP courses is most likely not going to be sufficient for med school admission. You need to do very well in the majority of them to really stand out to admission committees. Many SMPers end up doing better than a lot of med students and you should because you theoretically have that much more motivation to do well.

Lastly, the SMP does not appear to favor in-staters. I truly believe they look solely at stats and ability to do well, and ignore what state you're coming from. I was an out of stater, and though I've never looked it up, I believe in its history, they've taken more out of staters than in-staters, but I could be wrong. Don't let that bother you...if you are from OOS, during orientation they will explain to you how you can become an Ohio resident if you wish to do so (if you subsequently want to go to the UC med school, you would be wise to do this, because THEY do preference in staters!).

👍Good luck!
 
Thanks looking glass and pedsbro! I think its interesting that the SMP students do better on average than the medical students, which shows how undergraduate gpa isn't the best predictor of medical school grades. But then again, I remember reading about one UC SMP student who received high grades in the SMP program and still wasn't accepted by UC. I wonder how the admissions committee will determine whether or not to accept an SMP student.
 
Thanks looking glass and pedsbro! I think its interesting that the SMP students do better on average than the medical students, which shows how undergraduate gpa isn't the best predictor of medical school grades. But then again, I remember reading about one UC SMP student who received high grades in the SMP program and still wasn't accepted by UC. I wonder how the admissions committee will determine whether or not to accept an SMP student.

The same factors hold true for SMP grads as they do for people applying to med school after college. This SMP, as do most, only helps you overcome a lackluster ugrad GPA. Adcoms will still look at MCAT scores, clinical experience/shadowing, volunteering, research, and other ECs, as well as school specific criteria (state residency, for example). It's all an odds game. Doing well in the SMP significantly increases your chances of acceptance, provided you are Ok in those other areas, but it is NEVER a guarantee.

I agree ugrad grades are not predictor that med schools wish they would be. But realize that SMP students have more motivation and less coursework/time commitments than the med students, so you SHOULD do better than most. Regardless of that though, it's still quite impressive when you see that you're doing better than many med students in a given class, and adcoms see that too.
 
Just to make it known, SMP grades are NOT everything when it comes to getting admitted! Students still have to have a complete application to have a chance. I didn't know the guy who wasn't accepted, but I do know he did not retain his IS status as a OH resident. That is also a factor.

The current interview/acceptance tally for those currently applying is:
Rosalind Franklin
Case Western
Ohio State
EVMS
University of Cincinnati
Western U/COMP
Nova Southeastern
University of Louisville
University of Kentucky
LSU-New Orleans
LSU-Shreveport
Wright State
Drexel
UNE-COM
University of Toledo
and the list continues....

Mind you, that is a partial list from just students who applied THIS year. I definitely believe this program is gaining notoriety as students are accepted to other schools and succeed.
 
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