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This chapter I'm reading on the pathophysiology of ED and treatment is pretty hilarious.
 
"reassure the patient that the problem is common among men in his age group.". Med schools are big on reassurance.
 
Seems like it's gonna be a good movie:

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1wy_E7h2Wg[/YOUTUBE]
 
DrYoda said:
That sounds like a screw up. I didn't think they were even supposed to use parental income to calculate EFC for grad students.
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metallica81788 said:
That's what I thought. My EFC was zero and I think almost everyone who has just been in college and never worked full-time for years has an EFC of zero.
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FAFSA's EFC =/= your school's EFC, if you're trying to get institutional aid (which you have to submit parental info for-- at least at all the schools i applied to). that's why schools have their own forms and/or use NeedAccess or CSS Profile. they get more info and come up with a more accurate assessment of your family's ability to pay for school. in theory, anyway.
 
dingyibvs said:
Seems like it's gonna be a good movie:
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:laugh: That looks like it's gonna be hilarious!!!

This movie looks like it's gonna be good too...

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ40WlshNwU[/YOUTUBE]
 
lstone13 said:
:laugh: That looks like it's gonna be hilarious!!!

This movie looks like it's gonna be good too...

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ40WlshNwU[/YOUTUBE]
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oh yea, can't wait 👍 also, is it just me or does angelina jolie look better as a blonde? she seems...less intimidating.
 
dingyibvs said:
oh yea, can't wait 👍 also, is it just me or does angelina jolie look better as a blonde? she seems...less intimidating.
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Hmmm... Personally, I think she looks good regardless of her hair color... And perhaps a little intimidating too with any hair color as well...
 
ksmi117 said:
With the amount they want my parents to give, it more than covers the CoA, so they only offered me the 8500 in sub stafford.

FWIW, they haven't told me that my package is available, so maybe it's not right.
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Weird. Didn't something similar happen to you at JHU too?
 
JJMrK said:
What would you do with it?
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i'm thinking about a few things... i'm really interested in doing clinical research (long term as part of my career). i'm also interested in outcomes research. and in behavioral health on a population (rather than individual) scale. but i guess what i'm trying to figure out is whether i can pursue these things meaningfully with just the MD. i'm starting to ask around... we'll see what people say :shrug:
 
i would do a MPH during residency if at all. thats just me though. a lot of (supportive) residencies give out dual degrees like toilet paper
 
You don't need a mph to do that, I did research like that as a postbac, you'll prolly collaborate with phds in behavioral science/clinical psych on the project in any case.

dw2158 said:
i'm thinking about a few things... i'm really interested in doing clinical research (long term as part of my career). i'm also interested in outcomes research. and in behavioral health on a population (rather than individual) scale. but i guess what i'm trying to figure out is whether i can pursue these things meaningfully with just the MD. i'm starting to ask around... we'll see what people say :shrug:
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drizzt3117 said:
You don't need a mph to do that, I did research like that as a postbac, you'll prolly collaborate with phds in behavioral science/clinical psych on the project in any case.
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cool. if i want to ultimately direct research though (i don't know if i could call myself a PI in this instance?), I'm wondering if the MPH would help. i also wonder how much it would help me get a good residency-- not "good" in the competitive sense, but "good" in the sense that i'd be interacting with the patient population that i'm most interested in and have access to the clinical research i'm most interested in. so i guess a "good fit" residency is a better way of saying it :laugh:
 
ksmi117 said:
Nah, there my parental contribution was around $20K which makes waaaay more sense. They just didn't give me any scholarship or loans to cover that $20K.
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boo. well, you're better off without hopkins anyway; this one REALLY annoying girl from my undergrad is probably going there. though i'm pretty sure she posts on SDN so i'll shut up now 😀
 
dw2158 said:
cool. if i want to ultimately direct research though (i don't know if i could call myself a PI in this instance?), I'm wondering if the MPH would help. i also wonder how much it would help me get a good residency-- not "good" in the competitive sense, but "good" in the sense that i'd be interacting with the patient population that i'm most interested in and have access to the clinical research i'm most interested in. so i guess a "good fit" residency is a better way of saying it :laugh:
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You can be NIH funded to research that without a MPH. As far as whether it will help you for residency, I think it will help you more for fellowships than for residencies. For example, it'd be very useful for academic heavy fellowships like peds/adult endo (diabetes/obesity), preventive cardiology, infectious disease (self-explanatory)
 
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drizzt3117 said:
You can be NIH funded to research that without a MPH. As far as whether it will help you for residency, I think it will help you more for fellowships than for residencies. For example, it'd be very useful for academic heavy fellowships like peds and adult endo (diabetes/obesity), preventive cardiology, infectious disease (self-explanatory)
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good point re: fellowships. i am really interested in endocrinology, and probably peds. so that's something to consider.
 
ksmi117 said:
Nah, there my parental contribution was around $20K which makes waaaay more sense. They just didn't give me any scholarship or loans to cover that $20K.
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That still doesn't make sense to me. Why would they expect anything out of parents? I mean, I know some people's parents might help them out, but to expect it rubs me the wrong way. Why not just say you are eligible for an extra 20k of grad plus loans? I mean seriously, what if your parents weren't gonna help you out?
 
JJMrK said:
That still doesn't make sense to me. Why would they expect anything out of parents? I mean, I know some people's parents might help them out, but to expect it rubs me the wrong way. Why not just say you are eligible for an extra 20k of grad plus loans? I mean seriously, what if your parents weren't gonna help you out?
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at the schools i applied to, in that situation you don't submit parental information. then you can't get institutional aid but you can fill any non-stafford stuff in with other loans. i think.
 
The whole not offering me loans is no longer a consideration, since my parents and I have agreed to a compromise. I can take out the $8500 subsidized loans and they'll pay for the rest of everything. I'll just have to pay them back without interest later. So it's basically the institutional aid I'm looking at now.
 
dw2158 said:
at the schools i applied to, in that situation you don't submit parental information. then you can't get institutional aid but you can fill any non-stafford stuff in with other loans. i think.
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At the schools I've filled out finaid stuff for, you have to include parental info to be eligible for scholarships. So it only makes sense to do that. It doesn't mean that your parents are agreeing to help you, though.

ksmi117 said:
The whole not offering me loans is no longer a consideration, since my parents and I have agreed to a compromise. I can take out the $8500 subsidized loans and they'll pay for the rest of everything. I'll just have to pay them back without interest later. So it's basically the institutional aid I'm looking at now.
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That's generous of them. 👍
 
JJMrK said:
At the schools I've filled out finaid stuff for, you have to include parental info to be eligible for scholarships. So it only makes sense to do that. It doesn't mean that your parents are agreeing to help you, though.

That's generous of them. 👍
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That's how I understood the whole process.

But I still don't have any fin aid packets yet 🙂mad🙂 so I guess I don't know much.
 
So my fantasy team is getting messed over close to the end.

Santana went 7 innings with 0 ER and <1.00WHIP and will not get the W because the Mets can't get a single damn run. Really needed the W there. Ironically, his best player has been the best player for the White Sox this week. Quentin with 6 RBIs in one night AND he has Jorge Cantu, lol

At least Rodney's been gangbusters since he's become closer, 2 SVs.
 
brooklynblunder said:
i would do a MPH during residency if at all. thats just me though. a lot of (supportive) residencies give out dual degrees like toilet paper
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Plus doesn't MD/MPH take like 5 years to do? I wouldn't want that at all.
 
ksmi117 said:
I know that. But everyone gets that anyway.

I'm just saying its a bit ridiculous for a school to expect my parents to pay 95K a year especially when CoA is only 65K.
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This isn't true. For some reason I'm only getting like 4,000 sub... and I have no idea why.
 
Sammich117 said:
This isn't true. For some reason I'm only getting like 4,000 sub... and I have no idea why.
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Call about that. You should be getting $8500 total. Then you max out the rest of the unsubsidized stafford $32000, then make up the remainder in crappy crappy GradPlus loans.
 
metallica81788 said:
That's how I understood the whole process.

But I still don't have any fin aid packets yet 🙂mad🙂 so I guess I don't know much.
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oof. that is ANNOYING.

BlueElmo said:
Plus doesn't MD/MPH take like 5 years to do? I wouldn't want that at all.
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not necessarily. but i'm kind of on the "take your time" track in life anyway, so whatever. i might take a 5th year to do research regardless of MPH 🙂

also, i am so thankful that for sinai, my non-scholarship part is mostly mount sinai institutional loans-- 5% interest, no interest accrues during school or residency, and no need to pay back until after residency. and i also got federal perkins loans, which are subsidized and super low interest. yahtzee.
 
dw2158 said:
oof. that is ANNOYING.



not necessarily. but i'm kind of on the "take your time" track in life anyway, so whatever. i might take a 5th year to do research regardless of MPH 🙂

also, i am so thankful that for sinai, my non-scholarship part is mostly mount sinai institutional loans-- 5% interest, no interest accrues during school or residency, and no need to pay back until after residency. and i also got federal perkins loans, which are subsidized and super low interest. yahtzee.
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wowee, that's sick fin. aid. Just out of curiosity, what's eligibility for Perkins loan depend on. That's about the only loan I didn't get...
 
dw2158 said:
oof. that is ANNOYING.

not necessarily. but i'm kind of on the "take your time" track in life anyway, so whatever. i might take a 5th year to do research regardless of MPH 🙂

also, i am so thankful that for sinai, my non-scholarship part is mostly mount sinai institutional loans-- 5% interest, no interest accrues during school or residency, and no need to pay back until after residency. and i also got federal perkins loans, which are subsidized and super low interest. yahtzee.
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Sounds good. You're going to graduate with an insanely low amount of debt, you might as well go for your MPH or research year if that's what you want.

Plus, most schools pay for your research year, I think.
 
BBender716 said:
wowee, that's sick fin. aid. Just out of curiosity, what's eligibility for Perkins loan depend on. That's about the only loan I didn't get...
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it's need-based from the federal government. i only got a few thousand of that, and a few thousand of subsidized stafford loans. the rest is MSSM loans, and then scholarship.

metallica81788 said:
Sounds good. You're going to graduate with an insanely low amount of debt, you might as well go for your MPH or research year if that's what you want.

Plus, most schools pay for your research year, I think.
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i hope!! my dad might get a different job, though, which might decrease my scholarship a bit for 3rd and 4th year (i'm assuming not much will change for tax year 2010/2nd year finaid app).

and yeah, research year is free. MPH isn't really a concern, cost-wise. it's just whether it's worth all the extra effort :laugh:
 
dw2158 said:
it's need-based from the federal government. i only got a few thousand of that, and a few thousand of subsidized stafford loans. the rest is MSSM loans, and then scholarship.



i hope!! my dad might get a different job, though, which might decrease my scholarship a bit for 3rd and 4th year (i'm assuming not much will change for tax year 2010/2nd year finaid app).

and yeah, research year is free. MPH isn't really a concern, cost-wise. it's just whether it's worth all the extra effort :laugh:
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Need-based that considers parents income? I thought they didn't consider parents income...
 
BBender716 said:
Need-based that considers parents income? I thought they didn't consider parents income...
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yes. i think the consensus (correct me if i'm wrong) is that need-based based on student's income is bogus, since we'll all be making nothing next year, if we're not making nothing already.
 
metallica81788 said:
Well that is the question.

If I were doing a dual degree, I would probably prefer an MPH but my head would tell me to go MBA.
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ugh, not me.

(was trying to add to that sentence but couldn't say anything nice, so like thumper from bambi... i'll say nothing at all :laugh:)
 
EFC affects the total amount of aid you can get (in loans + grants). It's based on your income only (+ your spouse's income).
 
I meant for the Federal Perkins Loan... do they consider parents' income?
 
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