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neither alex nor sidney have seriously crippled anyone. and neither would be dumb enough to do so if told to. todd can suck a big. fat. one.
 
I'll never forgive Bertuzzi. He almost killed Steve Moore and ended his hockey career. Moore never had a chance. Bertuzzi may have cleaned up his act, but he deserves a lifetime ban more than Pete Rose.

This isn't a Red Wings thing, by the way.
 
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BBender716 said:
www.fangraphs.com is a baseball statistician's dreamland 😍
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sick

oaklandguy said:
I don't know if any of you guys watched the Wings game, but Bertuzzi got called for elbowing which was just a regular hit. Franzen got laid out with an elbow to the face and no call. Flippula got kneed on a hit that was a blatant attempt to injure him. The game could've really gotten out of hand had the wings not been in a situation where they needed the win. Also notice how the Sharks had a huge advantage in powerplays and 5 on 3's. The wings aren't a dirty team and they play disciplined hockey. The wings didn't play well enough to win the series, but it doesn't help that they are playing the refs and the sharks.
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Hoody said:
neither alex nor sidney have seriously crippled anyone. and neither would be dumb enough to do so if told to. todd can suck a big. fat. one.
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So your okay with calls that completely rape the integrity of the game?

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I know emotionally speaking what Todd Bertuzzi did was horrible. But these are athletes. Tiger Woods banged at least 15 women outside of his relationship. Ray Lewis killed a man. Leonard Little killed 2 men. Donte Stallworth killed a man. Mike Vick killed dogs and had more jail time than all those people combined. Sorry, I digress, but the thing is that he learned his lesson. He hasn't gotten into a fight or even made a bone crunching check since he's been reinstated.

As doctors, we will make mistakes that KILL our patients. Just because we make one mistake, do we deserve to be fired for life?
 
This is also never ever a hooking call ever.

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These kind've calls actually make you wonder. Because it doesn't take a pre-med to know what hooking and holding and goalie interference are.
 
TooMuchResearch said:
Must I make one of those posts where someone steps in to remind everyone to chill out?
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we're all good.

I'm officially rooting for the Hawks and the Pens by the way. Although I do hate Hossa.
 
oaklandguy said:
I know emotionally speaking what Todd Bertuzzi did was horrible. But these are athletes. Tiger Woods banged at least 15 women outside of his relationship. Ray Lewis killed a man. Leonard Little killed 2 men. Donte Stallworth killed a man. Mike Vick killed dogs and had more jail time than all those people combined. Sorry, I digress, but the thing is that he learned his lesson. He hasn't gotten into a fight or even made a bone crunching check since he's been reinstated.

As doctors, we will make mistakes that KILL our patients. Just because we make one mistake, do we deserve to be fired for life?
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As far as the bolded goes, I really don't see how that works out. Vick should not have more jail time and be more publicly scrutinized for killing dogs than Stallworth, Lewis and Little. BTW, I don't really know the backstory on all those except for Stallworth. 😕

It's just Bertuzzi blind-sided a guy who was like 10 inches shorter and 100 lbs lighter than him and drove his face/head/neck into solid ice ON PURPOSE. He meant it from the beginning of the game and it was completely premeditated. My feelings actually have nothing to do with the Avalanche, it was just ridiculous.
 
Hoody said:
Im okay with anything that prevents bertuzzi from playing hockey, yes.

and he should be dead in my book. moving on...

apples =/= oranges.
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I cannot make any argument saying that what Bertuzzi did was anything less than absolutely horrible. His actions were disgusting.

But I guess due to my philosophical belief system, stealing a dollar is the same as stealing a million dollars, it's still stealing. Who are we to judge him? He did something wrong once and isn't doing it anymore. Whats the point of reinstating the guy if he spends the whole game in the penalty box? If the guy completely changed and has sincerely learned his lesson than he deserves a chance to play the sport, at least in my book. I think taking an emotional argument into things of this nature always ends up with poor decision making and lack of logical thinking. We tend to point out the splinter in someones eyes without realizing the logs in our own.
 
TooMuchResearch said:
Must I make one of those posts where someone steps in to remind everyone to chill out?
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I'm done now.

I actually don't have much of a problem with most of your opinions on this topic, Oakland - I'm simply stating my case and feelings on the matter. That situation happens to be one I have felt strongly about for a long time. 😳
 
oaklandguy said:
I cannot make any argument saying that what Bertuzzi did was anything less than absolutely horrible. His actions were disgusting.

But I guess due to my philosophical belief system, stealing a dollar is the same as stealing a million dollars, it's still stealing. Who are we to judge him? He did something wrong once and isn't doing it anymore. Whats the point of reinstating the guy if he spends the whole game in the penalty box? If the guy completely changed and has sincerely learned his lesson than he deserves a chance to play the sport, at least in my book. I think taking an emotional argument into things of this nature always ends up with poor decision making and lack of logical thinking. We tend to point out the splinter in someones eyes without realizing the logs in our own.
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I do wonder if that incident has branded him with extra PIMs for the rest of his career. You would have to think so, it happens in other sports. People known for causing trouble on the field of play (no matter how big or small) usually seem to get the blame more often.
 
Not trying to defend Bertuzzi, or any athlete that induces injury on purpose. But as a football player, we watch film on the other teams and we scouted their best players. Our coaches taught us to break fingers and to tackle the sides of knees in order to injure players. Our goal was to hurt these people at every opportunity. In practice we would make dogpiles to practice pulling out the ball and "what goes on in the dog pile".

In basketball you also have goons who are put in the game with intention to foul hard.

In baseball when you're boy gets hit, you come out as a pitcher and hit the other teams best hitter. Or if you get roughed up as a pitcher you hit the guy who hit a bomb off you. If I throw a fastball and it hits a guy in the back of the neck am I a monster? Or am I doing my job?

Hockey is the only non-fighting based sport that allows fighting. It is one of the roughest sports. Moore had injured Naslund purposefully earlier and you know for a fact that his coach had told him to go after Moore. This is the reality of sports. If it's too much for you to handle then don't watch. It's very unfortunate that Moore was hurt. But even today, Franzen got decked and the wings retaliated by hitting Murphy up high. This is sports.
 
metallica81788 said:
I'm done now.

I actually don't have much of a problem with most of your opinions on this topic, Oakland - I'm simply stating my case and feelings on the matter. That situation happens to be one I have felt strongly about for a long time. 😳
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I think we are all pretty chill about it. No one insulting one another. I just hate to see the rules of the game change for specific players i.e. why I'm not a huge NBA fan.

I am also simply stating my opinion on the matter, especially having played varsity level sports for four years in college and having many friends who are division I NCAA athletes. I think that your arguments are strong arguments and are emotionally aesthetic, but if I were in Bertuzzi's shoes I would personally want a second chance and it's not fair that other human beings can kill and rape (roethlisberger) and be wicked adulterers and come back and play, yet Bertuzzi is being treated more harshly than them??
 
oaklandguy said:
Not trying to defend Bertuzzi, or any athlete that induces injury on purpose. But as a football player, we watch film on the other teams and we scouted their best players. Our coaches taught us to break fingers and to tackle the sides of knees in order to injure players. Our goal was to hurt these people at every opportunity. In practice we would make dogpiles to practice pulling out the ball and "what goes on in the dog pile".

In basketball you also have goons who are put in the game with intention to foul hard.

In baseball when you're boy gets hit, you come out as a pitcher and hit the other teams best hitter. Or if you get roughed up as a pitcher you hit the guy who hit a bomb off you. If I throw a fastball and it hits a guy in the back of the neck am I a monster? Or am I doing my job?

Hockey is the only non-fighting based sport that allows fighting. It is one of the roughest sports. Moore had injured Naslund purposefully earlier and you know for a fact that his coach had told him to go after Moore. This is the reality of sports. If it's too much for you to handle then don't watch. It's very unfortunate that Moore was hurt. But even today, Franzen got decked and the wings retaliated by hitting Murphy up high. This is sports.
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This is mainly true, but my problem with the Bertuzzi thing is that it happened nowhere near where the actual game was taking place. It was at center ice when the puck was down near the net.

Stuff like goon fouling, dogpile biting/punching, and baseball pitching (which I think is stupid as all hell and far more obvious with intention) happens in the context of the game.
 
metallica81788 said:
This is mainly true, but my problem with the Bertuzzi thing is that it happened nowhere near where the actual game was taking place. It was at center ice when the puck was down near the net.

Stuff like goon fouling, dogpile biting/punching, and baseball pitching (which I think is stupid as all hell and far more obvious with intention) happens in the context of the game.
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I agree that it was away from the game, but I feel like most hockey fights are always away from the action. The Claude Lemeiux vs. Darren McCarty fight happened right at the drop of the puck. The Osgood vs. Roy fights are between goalies lol, so was the Vernon vs. Roy fight. I mean these are some of the all-time best fights ever and they all happened away from the action:

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That looks like a cheap shot too, he just didn't get hurt, so it goes down as one of the best all-time.
 
my absolute biggest peeve in sports is in soccer when players fake fall and draw a foul. they run for 90+ freaking minutes but they cant handle a little one on one? pathetic.


im watching house for the first time ever. im pretty freaking lost. yeah. i guess its better than toddler and tiara's or nancy grace.
 
Honestly, I can probably find like 30 Claude Lemieux cheap shots on youtube. The only difference between his and Bertuzzis is that no one was paralyzed:

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Anyways I'm over it as well.

Baseball has been great though. The Padres are unreal right now. 19-11, I would've guessed they'd be below .500 by now.

I also think the Tigers and Twins will go at it again for the AL Central. I think the Angels will win the AL West. Yanks and Sox again for the East, I just don't think the Rays are the real deal.

I honestly have no idea about the NL though. What do you guys think?
 
Soccer players are such wimps/primadonnas. Especially the Italians. I understand why Zidane wanted to headbutt their face in.

BTW, working on my 3rd Baylor LOI right now and I think it's going pretty well. The best writing is accomplished during the wee hours of the morning, IMO.
 
oaklandguy said:
Anyways I'm over it as well.

Baseball has been great though. The Padres are unreal right now. 19-11, I would've guessed they'd be below .500 by now.

I also think the Tigers and Twins will go at it again for the AL Central. I think the Angels will win the AL West. Yanks and Sox again for the East, I just don't think the Rays are the real deal.

I honestly have no idea about the NL though. What do you guys think?
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I'm going with Twins, Rangers (my dark horse pick), Yankees and Rays from the AL.

For the NL, I'll take San Francisco, St Louis, Philly, and Colorado.
 
Yeah, I hope that soccer crap doesn't leak into our sports too much *cough Anderson Varejao cough*

It's a long season. St. Louis and Philly are extremely strong teams and Colorado always seems to get hot. San Francisco has Lincecum, but I don't know if they are as strong as a team. It's interesting to see how the clubs are meshing together, I would've never guessed the Tigers to be doing this well and the Indians to be doing as bad as they are.
 
I had to dig into my Bag O' Rejection to find a budget for financial aid. UVA gave one to us at the interview with a budget for all living expenses, that's more than I can say for VCU and LSU-NO. Not a single peep as far as financial aid info is concerned. I just wanted a budget to figure out how much I should spend on certain things and what I can cut and distribute. This should help.
 
met, are you and your gf gonna do the long distance thing?
 
metallica81788 said:
I had to dig into my Bag O' Rejection to find a budget for financial aid. UVA gave one to us at the interview with a budget for all living expenses, that's more than I can say for VCU and LSU-NO. Not a single peep as far as financial aid info is concerned. I just wanted a budget to figure out how much I should spend on certain things and what I can cut and distribute. This should help.
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Having a budget is always awesome. I just always exceed my budget. Like I try to lay out $100 a week for all of my expenses, but gas is $45 a week now and then food and an oil change once every 3 months. Plus random things come up. Girls drain my bank account too. Like I save a ton of money being single, it's pretty great.

P.S. congrats on 9000.
 
ksmi117 said:
I guess I'll see tomorrow. Looking at the overview for the workout tomorrow, it looks like lots of push-ups, some pull-ups, and other chest exercises. Plus ab stuff.
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I'm telling ya, it's INTENSE!
 
dingyibvs said:
I'm telling ya, it's INTENSE!
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The diet takes really strong will, I personally couldn't do it. The workouts weren't bad, some harder than others obviously and I went running on saturdays rather than doing the kick boxing thing. But overall there isn't a workout that is better rounded overall and as kick-butt as P90X.

The thing is though, to get the most out of P90X, you have to take the fitness test before hand, and I know tons of people who wouldn't have passed the fitness test and they ended up complaining that they weren't getting results. Well if you can only do 2-3 pull-ups you aren't going to get anything out of the back and shoulder days.

The yoga gets really hard too towards the end of the video.

Did you do a full cycle Dingy?
 
metallica81788 said:
Wow, I did not realize it was so late. Time flies when you're spilling your heart onto a page that will probably end up meaning nothing. :laugh:
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It never hurts to be hopeful.

Lol @ the spilling your heart out. You should pull a van gogh and cut off part of your body and send it along with the letter. I suggest being creative and maybe sending your appendix or a chunk of your hip.
 
oaklandguy said:
It never hurts to be hopeful.

Lol @ the spilling your heart out. You should pull a van gogh and cut off part of your body and send it along with the letter. I suggest being creative and maybe sending your appendix or a chunk of your hip.
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Someone was suggesting cutting off a finger and mailing it in a while ago. I think it was dingy?

I could cut out my own appendix with no anesthesia like that doctor did in Antarctica. :laugh:
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TooMuchResearch said:
All the cool kids stay up late.
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😎
 
oaklandguy said:
The diet takes really strong will, I personally couldn't do it. The workouts weren't bad, some harder than others obviously and I went running on saturdays rather than doing the kick boxing thing. But overall there isn't a workout that is better rounded overall and as kick-butt as P90X.

The thing is though, to get the most out of P90X, you have to take the fitness test before hand, and I know tons of people who wouldn't have passed the fitness test and they ended up complaining that they weren't getting results. Well if you can only do 2-3 pull-ups you aren't going to get anything out of the back and shoulder days.

The yoga gets really hard too towards the end of the video.

Did you do a full cycle Dingy?
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heck no, i do some exercises here and there lol. I cannot diet, period, it's just too hard because i'd either have to cook or buy really expensive food.

metallica81788 said:
Yeah, but only for a year, so it will be bearable.



Hola, dingy!
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hola homie, que pasa
 
dingyibvs said:
heck no, i do some exercises here and there lol. I cannot diet, period, it's just too hard because i'd either have to cook or buy really expensive food.


hola homie, que pasa
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Me and you are on the same level. I did P90X for like 2 months, but working out every single day was hindering my study time and then finals hit and I stopped working out altogether. Now I try to run or do something athletic twice a week and play basketball once a week. I haven't been as consistent and I've gained weight this past winter, but hopefully I can hit the track hard and run it all off.

As far as diets, I always eat tons of red meat and beer. I've never really thought twice about it and never have had any health issues.
 
Hoody said:
my absolute biggest peeve in sports is in soccer when players fake fall and draw a foul. they run for 90+ freaking minutes but they cant handle a little one on one? pathetic.
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And yet you root for a team with Crosby on it?


Go not-wings, not-pens!
 
caniac said:
THANK YOU!!! Crosby what a douchebag.

I'm actually really looking forward the WM. WERDEN WIR WELTMEISTER SEIN!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9owJbIUlFNc

Got my 2010 jersey ready and everything...if only I wasn't going to officer training during the final 🙁
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Fo' real! I'll be pulling regular work hours during the summer, but I am totally taking over the TV in the school lounge for some world cup goodness!
 
Good morning folks!

ksmi117 said:
Beginning!! 😱 :scared:

I hope so!!
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😱 The beginning of June?! That's so... soon!! Now that I think about it, I don't know when class starts for me yet. Hmmm... I should probably find that out.

BlueElmo said:
Stoney, very BIG CONGRATS!🙂
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Thanks Blue!! (And thanks again to everyone else!)

ksmi117 said:
Flowers are a lame present. They are nice as a surprise. But I like practical presents.
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I like flowers and all, but... I would much rather have jewelry! 😀
 
lstone13 said:
😱 The beginning of June?! That's so... soon!! Now that I think about it, I don't know when class starts for me yet. Hmmm... I should probably find that out.
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I KNOW!!! But I'm excited. It'll be nice. Hopefully.

I like flowers and all, but... I would much rather have jewelry! 😀
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👍 Jewelry is awesome.
 
Myuu said:
And yet you root for a team with Crosby on it?
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Actually, one of my all time favorite players is Jordan Staal. That's why I root for the pens. And I like EM and MAF as well. All around, they play excellent hockey and they play even better hockey when it matters the most. The pens always make the play off worth watching.

I watch a lot of hockey. I don't think Sidney plays like that at all. If anyone has had to pay dues, its him. He has gone through more adversity as the leagues youngest (and best) player than most hockey players will in their entire career. He pretty much has a target on his back.

caniac said:
THANK YOU!!! Crosby what a douchebag.
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He's actually a stand up guy. He does lots of work outside the rink for the community and youth hockey. But I'm sure he's used the judgment and jealousy by now.
 
Today should be interesting trying to get enough protein.

Just made an egg white omelet. I need work on my omelet folding skills. But it was yummy. 🙂
 
ksmi117 said:
Today should be interesting trying to get enough protein.

Just made an egg white omelet. I need work on my omelet folding skills. But it was yummy. 🙂
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Can I have one? I'm hungry.

Hello all; I've got about half an hour before Mother's Day brunch. What's everyone up to, and what did I miss? 🙂
 
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