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Buttermellow said:
By the time I'm out of residency, I'll be 29 at best. Then give me 2-3 years to both meet someone and actually get married, and I'm 32. Then I'll enjoy marriage for a year or two, then decide to have kids. And I'm already 34+. I do not like this plan 🙁
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In this regard I do sympathize with women, we males (fortunately) don't have the same biological clock considerations.
 
Buttermellow said:
Teach me your ways. I need monies.
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First... take off your shirt reeeeally slowly....

aSagacious said:
Great minds think alike. 🙂
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Oh so very true 😀

Buttermellow said:
By the time I'm out of residency, I'll be 29 at best. Then give me 2-3 years to both meet someone and actually get married, and I'm 32. Then I'll enjoy marriage for a year or two, then decide to have kids. And I'm already 34+. I do not like this plan 🙁
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Yeah... no offense. I love women, and I love women in medicine, but for those women who want to have children and raise a family... medicine is the WORST career ever for it. Unless you do something like family medicine and only work 2-3 days a week.

aSagacious said:
In this regard I do sympathize with women, we males (fortunately) don't have the same biological clock considerations.
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I do and I don't sympathize... women's reproductive spans are increasing. My aunt just had a kid at 44.
 
CodeBlu said:
First... take off your shirt reeeeally slowly....
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:laugh:


CodeBlu said:
Yeah... no offense. I love women, and I love women in medicine, but for those women who want to have children and raise a family... medicine is the WORST career ever for it. Unless you do something like family medicine and only work 2-3 days a week.



I do and I don't sympathize... women's reproductive spans are increasing. My aunt just had a kid at 44.
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So I guess I could have kids after I'm 35. It sucks that medicine is just about the worst career for raising a family. I want both 🙁
 
CodeBlu said:
It's around 10%... the risk of type II diabetes, mental ******ation, trisomy 21 is MASSIVELY increased.
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So really it would probably be better just to take your chances with your un-removed eggs. Do it the natural way.
 
Buttermellow said:
So really it would probably be better just to take your chances with your un-removed eggs. Do it the natural way.
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Yes. Like they do on the Discovery channel.

Also, kids that are born through ICSI/IVF procedures are far more likely to lose the genetic lottery... by a lot.

I haven't really got beef against IVF.... but I must say... if the parents weren't fertile on their own... I'm siding with my boy Charles Darwin here.

Their genes were NOT meant to be continued on... and I've heard the debate of wanting your "own children"... but we're effing with our natural progression as humanity here.
 
CodeBlu said:
Yes. Like they do on the Discovery channel.

Also, kids that are born through ICSI/IVF procedures are far more likely to lose the genetic lottery... by a lot.

I haven't really got beef against IVF.... but I must say... if the parents weren't fertile on their own... I'm siding with my boy Charles Darwin here.

Their genes were NOT meant to be continued on... and I've heard the debate of wanting your "own children"... but we're effing with our natural progression as humanity here.
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I would want my "own" child, but if I couldn't do that, I know I would be really happy with an adopted child.
 
CodeBlu said:
Yes. Like they do on the Discovery channel.

Also, kids that are born through ICSI/IVF procedures are far more likely to lose the genetic lottery... by a lot.

I haven't really got beef against IVF.... but I must say... if the parents weren't fertile on their own... I'm siding with my boy Charles Darwin here.

Their genes were NOT meant to be continued on... and I've heard the debate of wanting your "own children"... but we're effing with our natural progression as humanity here.
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I agree, sort of. A common cause of infertility is simply hormonal imbalance that disallows a suitable environment for the zygote. The same woman on hormone replacement therapy might be perfectly fertile. (I know it's not quite the same as IVF, but similar).
 
Buttermellow said:
I would want my "own" child, but if I couldn't do that, I know I would be really happy with an adopted child.
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But with IVF you can...

you're telling me that if you found out you couldn't bear children naturally... you wouldn't go see a reproductive endocrinologist/fertility specialist?

If so... you're awesome, and I am going to hold you to that.
 
aSagacious said:
I agree, sort of. A common cause of infertility is simply hormonal imbalance that disallows a suitable environment for the zygote. The same woman on hormone replacement therapy might be perfectly fertile. (I know it's not quite the same as IVF, but similar).
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Hormones are a diff ball game all together.

How's your knowledge of reproduction, in terms of physiology/cell physiology?
 
CodeBlu said:
But with IVF you can...

you're telling me that if you found out you couldn't bear children naturally... you wouldn't go see a reproductive endocrinologist/fertility specialist?

If so... you're awesome, and I am going to hold you to that.
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Like Saggy said, I would want to know what's wrong and see if it's simply hormonal or if something can be remedied. But I don't think IVF is for me. There are so many kids that don't have families, and I could give them an opportunity at a happy life.
 
A process of natural selection occurs naturally in the ovary already...

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The primordial follicles express low densities of the FSH receptor... during the menstrual cycle... feedback from GnRH releasing peptide called kisspeptin... generates a pulsatile flow of LH/FSH... each time priming one of these baby follicles.

The follicle with the highest density of FSH receptors is ultimately selected for ovulation, and it acquires LH receptors... then you're in business.

Some women have a defective GPCR or even G protein (LH receptor), which means that they would NEVER be able to have children without IVF... no matter how much hormone.

If the problem is hormonal deficiency and the receptors are totally copacetic then yes go for it.

Otherwise... it's an inherent flaw in the mothers DNA from birth due the fact that oocytes arise during the 3rd-6th month of gestation.
 
aSagacious said:
4.0'd physio I/II, 4.0'd reproductive physio... so I'd say mediocre. 😀
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Excellent! 🙂 I love you even more now. Repro phys is unreal cool.

(Hope you like my piss poor attempt at follicular phys.)

Buttermellow said:
Like Saggy said, I would want to know what's wrong and see if it's simply hormonal or if something can be remedied. But I don't think IVF is for me. There are so many kids that don't have families, and I could give them an opportunity at a happy life.
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*Cuddles with you and snuggles my nose against yours*
 
CodeBlu said:
A process of natural selection occurs naturally in the ovary already...

10ovarybL2.jpg


The primordial follicles express low densities of the FSH receptor... during the menstrual cycle... feedback from GnRH releasing peptide called kisspeptin... generates a pulsatile flow of LH/FSH... each time priming one of these baby follicles.

The follicle with the highest density of FSH receptors is ultimately selected for ovulation, and it acquires LH receptors... then you're in business.

Some women have a defective GPCR or even G protein (LH receptor), which means that they would NEVER be able to have children without IVF... no matter how much hormone.

If the problem is hormonal deficiency and the receptors are totally copacetic then yes go for it.

Otherwise... it's an inherent flaw in the mothers DNA from birth due the fact that oocytes arise during the 3rd-6th month of gestation.
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If I suffer through all these periods for 20 years, and then am not able to have kids, I'm gonna be pissed.
 
CodeBlu said:
Excellent! 🙂 I love you even more now. Repro phys is unreal cool.

(Hope you like my piss poor attempt at follicular phys.)



*Cuddles with you and snuggles my nose against yours*
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😛 Eskimo kiss!
 
psh, while you guys discuss oocytes, i'm making bingo cards for class tomorrow. 😎
 
Buttermellow said:
I would want my "own" child, but if I couldn't do that, I know I would be really happy with an adopted child.
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Buttermellow said:
Like Saggy said, I would want to know what's wrong and see if it's simply hormonal or if something can be remedied. But I don't think IVF is for me. There are so many kids that don't have families, and I could give them an opportunity at a happy life.
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👍👍👍👍👍

My fiancée and I have already agreed that at least one of our children will be adopted. You rock.
 
I just spent 3.5 hours (no fb, phone, etc.) on a single hw problem. Is this real life? 🙁
 
CodeBlu said:
Is it engineering?
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Yes sir. Distillation column calculations (felt like a nasty combination of pchem and thermodynamics). The question had part a through part f. One down, one to go.

*sigh*
 
cham90 said:
Yes sir. Distillation column calculations (felt like a nasty combination of pchem and thermodynamics). The question had part a through part f. One down, one to go.

*sigh*
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7 hours to do homework? And only 2 questions?

I could have learned, explained/taught... 4, two hour long lectures to someone in that time period.
 
CodeBlu said:
7 hours to do homework? And only 2 questions?

I could have learned, explained/taught... 4, two hour long lectures to someone in that time period.
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Sir, I think your math is wrong. 4 lectures *2 hours = 8 hours =/= 7 hours
 
CodeBlu said:
7 hours to do homework? And only 2 questions?

I could have learned, explained/taught... 4, two hour long lectures to someone in that time period.
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Well hopefully the second one isn't as tough. We'll see though. I'm just hoping that it isn't worse 🙂


ElCapone said:
Sir, I think your math is wrong. 4 lectures *2 hours = 8 hours =/= 7 hours
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What if he plays them (assuming they are in electronic format) at 1.5x speed like a champ?
 
Seriously, we have lemon cake, lavender lemon cake, toasted almond cake, and banana cake RIGHT NOW. I don't want to be a fatty, though.
 
CodeBlu said:
False. Just cuz the lecture itself was 2 hours... doesn't mean it takes me 2 hours to teach it to someone. I can teach a 2 hour lecture on GPCRs and G proteins in about 45 mins.
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FALSE. Cue Dwight Schrute.
 
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