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MedicalAuthor said:
Just made me think about a question regarding match. If I rank a place as my top choice, and they also say they want me, is it guaranteed? Or is it like the Draft lottery where the worst team in the league has the best chance of getting the first pick but it's still up in the air?

I ask because I read someone talk about 'a computer deciding my fate' and was wondering how deep that is. Is there chance involved, or is the match set up so that if I want a place above all and they want me in one of their spots, that's where I'll go?
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It's basically like this.

You rank your top 10 programs (or 20 or 50 or 100)

And the program ranks its top 10 applicants (or top 20, or top how many spots they have)

If you ranked them #1 and they ranked you anywhere from #1-#10 (if they have 10 spots available), then you will match there.

If you ranked them #1 and they ranked you #12 (and they only had 10 spots) then if at least 2 people ranked other programs higher, you would match there, however if all 10 people they ranked #1-#10 in turned ranked them as #1, you would not match there

Now you'd have to do the same thing with the #2 residency that you ranked and hope they ranked you in the top (whatever # of spots they have).

Rinse and repeat 🙂

😀

*if I'm wrong, let me know*
 
MedicalAuthor said:
Just made me think about a question regarding match. If I rank a place as my top choice, and they also say they want me, is it guaranteed? Or is it like the Draft lottery where the worst team in the league has the best chance of getting the first pick but it's still up in the air?

I ask because I read someone talk about 'a computer deciding my fate' and was wondering how deep that is. Is there chance involved, or is the match set up so that if I want a place above all and they want me in one of their spots, that's where I'll go?
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Loaded question. While it's designed to take the applicants (over programs) preference... there could easily be a group of people the program ranked higher than you, thus eventually knocking you off.

From the General Residency forum (and ERAS subform), I think it's safe to assume programs say a lot but you should take it all with a grain of salt.


None of this is relevant to us right now.
 
MedicalAuthor said:
Just made me think about a question regarding match. If I rank a place as my top choice, and they also say they want me, is it guaranteed? Or is it like the Draft lottery where the worst team in the league has the best chance of getting the first pick but it's still up in the air?

I ask because I read someone talk about 'a computer deciding my fate' and was wondering how deep that is. Is there chance involved, or is the match set up so that if I want a place above all and they want me in one of their spots, that's where I'll go?
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The impression I get is that the computer goes through your ranked list and the PD list to look for the highest matches. So if you ranked them 1, and they ranked you 5 but have 10 spots, then you'll get it. If they have 4 spots only, and their top 4 people matched with them, then you won't get a spot because you weren't ranked high enough. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong?
 
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Okay, so it's not technically up to chance at all (even though it may feel like chance, it's based on a concrete matching system which only incorporates people/program's choices without adding some randomization factor).
 
prado said:
It's basically like this.

You rank your top 10 programs (or 20 or 50 or 100)

And the program ranks its top 10 applicants (or top 20, or top how many spots they have)

If you ranked them #1 and they ranked you anywhere from #1-#10 (if they have 10 spots available), then you will match there.

If you ranked them #1 and they ranked you #12 (and they only had 10 spots) then if at least 2 people ranked other programs higher, you would match there, however if all 10 people they ranked #1-#10 in turned ranked them as #1, you would not match.

😀

*if I'm wrong, let me know*
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Not 100% true (in your last scenario someone ranked #1 at a program ranked that program #2, and they could still match over you if you're #12). The computer simply uses an algorithm to ensure that everyone is as happy as possible. Meaning they try to give the students their highest match (54% match to their #1), and same for the hospitals. So yes, if both you and the program rank each other #1, you're guaranteed to match there. It gets more iffy if you rank a school #5 and they rank you #37 and your first 4 rankings all didn't match.
 
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Doctor Strange said:
This residency talk is such a downer.

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Haha, sorry, didn't feel like it was pressing enough of a question to make a new thread. In a couple pages my question will be lost and forgotten, which is how I likes it!
 
To be transparent, I know there's nothing I can do about it now but I'm married and can't help but wonder how much of that part of my life will be up to chance, since it won't just affect me.
 
I just got the grumpy cat mug 😀

Thank you for the explanation Prado & mdauthor- I was wondering similar things thank you for asking.
 
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0[/YOUTUBE]
 
MedicalAuthor said:
Just made me think about a question regarding match. If I rank a place as my top choice, and they also say they want me, is it guaranteed? Or is it like the Draft lottery where the worst team in the league has the best chance of getting the first pick but it's still up in the air?

I ask because I read someone talk about 'a computer deciding my fate' and was wondering how deep that is. Is there chance involved, or is the match set up so that if I want a place above all and they want me in one of their spots, that's where I'll go?
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prado said:
It's basically like this.

You rank your top 10 programs (or 20 or 50 or 100)

And the program ranks its top 10 applicants (or top 20, or top how many spots they have)

If you ranked them #1 and they ranked you anywhere from #1-#10 (if they have 10 spots available), then you will match there.

If you ranked them #1 and they ranked you #12 (and they only had 10 spots) then if at least 2 people ranked other programs higher, you would match there, however if all 10 people they ranked #1-#10 in turned ranked them as #1, you would not match there

Now you'd have to do the same thing with the #2 residency that you ranked and hope they ranked you in the top (whatever # of spots they have).

Rinse and repeat 🙂

😀

*if I'm wrong, let me know*
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anguisette said:
The impression I get is that the computer goes through your ranked list and the PD list to look for the highest matches. So if you ranked them 1, and they ranked you 5 but have 10 spots, then you'll get it. If they have 4 spots only, and their top 4 people matched with them, then you won't get a spot because you weren't ranked high enough. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong?
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MedicalAuthor said:
Okay, so it's not technically up to chance at all (even though it may feel like chance, it's based on a concrete matching system which only incorporates people/program's choices without adding some randomization factor).
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No, there is indeed some chance, particularly when your ranks differ from your programs' ranks and when couples are involved.
pachewisc said:
Not 100% true (in your last scenario someone ranked #1 at a program ranked that program #2, and they could still match over you if you're #12). The computer simply uses an algorithm to ensure that everyone is as happy as possible. Meaning they try to give the students their highest match (54% match to their #1), and same for the hospitals. So yes, if both you and the program rank each other #1, you're guaranteed to match there. It gets more iffy if you rank a school #5 and they rank you #37 and your first 4 rankings all didn't match.
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After working with attendings, residents, and med students for the past 5 years, I'm very familiar with this process. Pachewisc is the most accurate: If you and a prospective program both rank each other as #1, you're guranteed that spot. But things get very iffy when a program ranks you #1 and you rank them #10 or vice versa or when an even greater disparity exists. When the ranks are misaligned, the algorithm kicks into overdrive and becomes very esoteric. But as has been said, when we get to that point we're very savvy as to whether we like a program and whether that program reciprocates the feeling, hence the 54% top choice match rate.
MedicalAuthor said:
To be transparent, I know there's nothing I can do about it now but I'm married and can't help but wonder how much of that part of my life will be up to chance, since it won't just affect me.
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Love shall persevere. 😍 Now, let's get back to focusing on EtOH and the present. 😉

P.S. TOP my homies!
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CsHead said:
LOL They get walk up songs??


I would totally have Crazy Train 😉


Edit: Could make a stout drinking game out of this.
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+1 for the drinking game!

Mine would be worlds greatest by r Kelly! Lol
 
CsHead said:
LOL They get walk up songs??


I would totally have Crazy Train 😉














Edit: Could make a stout drinking game out of this.
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MoeMed15 said:
+1 for the drinking game!

Mine would be worlds greatest by r Kelly! Lol
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Hell yes! I really hope wherever I end up that they do it like this. I have no idea what I'd play.

But dude, we're so doing the drinking game next year! We'll plan it!
 
Dude.. they have like 5 minute speeches and thank their family. I thought it was just like. Open the envelope, announce, move on.

I'm in on drinking game.
 
Guero said:
Hell yes! I really hope wherever I end up that they do it like this. I have no idea what I'd play.

But dude, we're so doing the drinking game next year! We'll plan it!
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yup, We definitely need to incorporate things.. such as long speeches, more than one guest, costume, outrageous song, waterfalls for couples matches anyone?
 
prado said:
This.

Does anyone have a good idea of where they're headed next year? And have any of you guys received financial aid packages yet?
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By the end of the month I will know if I got into my state school.

I haven't heard of financial aid packages yet either. Just the sole scholarship offer from Creighton but nothing else.
 
prado said:
This.

Does anyone have a good idea of where they're headed next year? And have any of you guys received financial aid packages yet?
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I thought I knew, but I just found out from the us news thread that my top choice is a bad school.

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Won't have a good idea until I see finaid packages...


even then things can change later on so... mehh... I've got a general idea of where I'll be... I'm also hoping for curve balls to spice things up
 
I busted out laughing at Cali Love by Pac! Hahaha! And I wanna be sedated? Dude!
anguisette said:
Dude.. they have like 5 minute speeches and thank their family. I thought it was just like. Open the envelope, announce, move on.

I'm in on drinking game.
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Some do just pop open the envelope and announce, but not many. We could totally do (1) Drink for every IM match, (2) Drink for every Vandy Match... Who wants to add? We need more opportunities for drinage. For those familiar with HIMYM: "But uhm!!!!!!!!!!" LoL!!
Tots said:
Cool seeing students I met on interview day match!
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IKR? I feel bad leaving this year. There are some great peeps here.
CsHead said:
yup, We definitely need to incorporate things.. such as long speeches, more than one guest, costume, outrageous song, waterfalls for couples matches anyone?
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Yes!! I love it! I plan on coming up in either Banana outfit or Beer Keg Costume
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or
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Mdtichen said:
+2!!!

On a side note, I have officially decided where I will be attending next year! Yay!
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Congrats!! Where?
Doctor Strange said:
Taylor Swift I Knew You Were Trouble

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I was thinking more along the lines of this: [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYfW53iE3Us[/YOUTUBE]

Or this [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t21DFnu00Dc[/YOUTUBE]

Maybe even [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKksHmgqFi0[/YOUTUBE]
BABSstudent said:
Care to share?
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Doctor Strange said:
Taylor Swift I Knew You Were Trouble

Sent from my Nexus 7 using SDN Mobile
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I'm thinking more along the lines of..

[YOUTUBE]8LLnwEcgWxw[/YOUTUBE]

Also, this is really cool. I don't know much about match day at other schools, but from my experience Vandy tends to do things in a different/unique way. Anyone know if other schools do stuff like this?
 
IncognitoGuy said:
I'm thinking more along the lines of..

[YOUTUBE]8LLnwEcgWxw[/YOUTUBE]

Also, this is really cool. I don't know much about match day at other schools, but from my experience Vandy tends to do things in a different/unique way. Anyone know if other schools do stuff like this?
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Hahaha! Nice! I tried to stay away from Metal so I wouldn't freak anyone out. Don't even get me started on Black/Death/Doom Metal or Hardcore. 🙂

Yes, other schools do this, too. GWU does it very similarly.
 
Reminded me though... The best school I've heard so far is the one that has the open bar that starts at 10am...




I do not have a problem

















Edit: Can't believe I watched an hour of that... I would have made it rain with the fishbowl.
 
Word!! We really need to be fb friends. You and I'd get along very well IRL.
CsHead said:
Reminded me though... The best school I've heard so far is the one that has the open bar that starts at 10am...




I have a problem
















Edit: Can't believe I watched an hour of that... I would have made it rain with the fishbowl.
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FTFY

I know, I'd totally have made it rain, too! LoL They're filming a Harlem Shake video now for c/o 2017's cadaver ball! So Jelly! I should've hauled my butt over there to the auditorium. I knew that's what they were going to do at the end! Dangit!
 
Snow outside. So happy it's Friday. I just need to decide what movie I'll watch today. Any ideas? It has to be very little to no violence & not horror.

Also, I don't get "research" posters that don't have any findings 😕
 
impermanence said:
Snow outside. So happy it's Friday. I just need to decide what movie I'll watch today. Any ideas? It has to be very little to no violence & not horror.

Also, I don't get "research" posters that don't have any findings 😕
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I think you just narrowed down my list of suggestions to approximately zero movies.
 
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