Classes with medical students

[shezadeh]

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For those of you who go to a school that also has a medical school (DMU, WesternU, Midwestern, School), how many of your classes were the same/taken with (shared lecture hall, professors, etc) medical students or pharmacy students? Just curious

 

[EK18]

For those of you who go to a school that also has a medical school (DMU, WesternU, Midwestern, School), how many of your classes were the same/taken with (shared lecture hall, professors, etc) medical students or pharmacy students? Just curious

Lol

I go to School. I'm only in my second week of classes, but so far all my classes have been integrated with the medical students (Biochemistry, Clinical Anatomy, and ECR) EXCEPT for Structure and Function, which we take with the Pathologist Assistants.

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

I'm also only in my second week of classes, but at DMU we have Anatomy, Biochemistry, and Clinical Medicine with the DO students. We have an additional class, "Principles and Practice of Podiatric Medicine" that (obviously) only the DPM students take.

I'm under the impression that basically our entire first year is with the DO students and after that we start to differentiate a bit.

 

[ldsrmdude]

I took all my basic science classes with the DO students during both 1st and 2nd year at Midwestern aka AZPod. Our physical diagnosis class was with the PA students. Outside of podiatry specific classes, our entire 1st and 2nd years were with DO and the one class with PA.

 

[shezadeh]

Lol

I go to School. I'm only in my second week of classes, but so far all my classes have been integrated with the medical students (Biochemistry, Clinical Anatomy, and ECR) EXCEPT for Structure and Function, which we take with the Pathologist Assistants.

Lol, I was a bit out of it when I typed this haha. I meant Scholl!

 

[PeaJay]

Here is a list of classes taken with the MD students while at Scholl:
-Gross anatomy
-Clinical reasoning
-Pathology

Classes taken with Pathology assistants:
-Structure and function
-Neuroscience
-Pathology

Classes taken with PT students:
-Neuroscience

Classes taken with Pharmacy students:
-Pharmacology

CRNA students are mixed in there for a few, I just cannot remember where

 

[AMDG83]

For WesternU

Year 1, Fall Semester

PM 5025 The Molecular and Cellular Basis of Medicine
PM 5030 Gross Anatomy
PM 5080 Essentials of Clinical Medicine I (Different professors, same material)
IPE 5000 Patient Centered Cases – An Interprofessional Approach I

Year 1, Spring Semester

PM 5125 Neuroscience System
PM 5130 Musculoskeletal System
PM 5145 Introduction to Disease, Immunity, and Therapeutics
PM 5155 Behavioral Medicine and Psychiatry
PM 5175 Blood and Lymphatic System
PM 5180 Essentials of Clinical Medicine II (Different professors, same material)
IPE 5100 Patient Centered Care – An Interprofessional Approach II

Year 2, Fall Semester
PM 6020 Cardiovascular System
PM 6035 Renal System
PM 6040 Respiratory System
PM 6045 Endocrine System
PM 6080 Essentials of Clinical Medicine III (Different professors, same material)

Year 2, Spring Semester
PM 6115 Dermal System
PM 6130 Reproductive System
PM 6140 Gastrointestinal System and Nutrition
PM 6172 Emergency Medicine
PM 6173 Geriatrics
PM 6176 Pediatrics
PM 6180 Essentials of Clinical Medicine IV (Different professors, same material)

 

[heybrother]

Biochemistry, Gross Anatomy, Cell & Tissue Biology, Immuno / Micro / Virology, Physical Diagnosis, Physiology, Pathology, Neuroanatomy, Geriatrics, Medical Pharmacology

Same classroom, same teacher, same materials, same labs, same test. I suspect that's all we'll take together, but if by some chance we take an additional systems class together later I suppose I'll update this.

 

[EK18]

Lol, I was a bit out of it when I typed this haha. I meant Scholl!

No worries 🙂

 

[DrRock44]

at Temple, all of our professors for basic sciences are from the MD program*. All of the lectures and tests are the same with the exception of gross anatomy, which for obvious reasons, is structured a little differently than the MD gross course.

*the bad part about this is that they have limited office availability on our campus and we have weird/irregular scheduling of lectures because we have to share

There had been talk of moving our whole program to the health sciences campus, but that would necessitate several lecture halls with 300+ capacity and room for our foot and ankle clinic, which is huge.not very feasible but still possible down the line

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

exception of gross anatomy, which for obvious reasons, is structured a little differently than the MD gross course.

What are the obvious reasons?? We take gross anatomy with the medical students and I can't think of any obvious reason our program would want to structure it differently?

 

[DrRock44]

My bad, meant obvious to me.

We take gross in the fall and LEA in the spring. The medschool docs teach gross and DPMs teach LEA. because the MD program has more gross time than we do, certain lectures/labs are more in depth. others are exactly the same.[conversely, they have one lab and lecture on LEA and we have 3 months] we can tell b/c the ones that are modified are in really plain looking powerpoint templates and the ones that are the same have the really nice medschool template. it looks like only one or 2 have been modified. (the forearm & hand lecture and part of the head where mentioned by one of our professors)

I thought it was kind of weird at first, but when you consider that GROSS isn't very high yield for our boards, it makes sense

 

[PeaJay]

My bad, meant obvious to me.

We take gross in the fall and LEA in the spring. The medschool docs teach gross and DPMs teach LEA. because the MD program has more gross time than we do, certain lectures/labs are more in depth. others are exactly the same.[conversely, they have one lab and lecture on LEA and we have 3 months] we can tell b/c the ones that are modified are in really plain looking powerpoint templates and the ones that are the same have the really nice medschool template. it looks like only one or 2 have been modified. (the forearm & hand lecture and part of the head where mentioned by one of our professors)

I thought it was kind of weird at first, but when you consider that GROSS isn't very high yield for our boards, it makes sense

-To each his own, DrRock.

I thought the unabridged version of gross anatomy was highly beneficial. It was nice doing the light LEA with the MD students as a warm up and then taking on the real LEA course. It is a shame that of all the dissections to be truncated it had to be your hand and forearm section. Those dissections are very helpful due to the parallels in structure and function. You will later find that a lot of the techniques and EBM that we use in podiatry are generously borrowed from hand literature.

 

[FootAndAnkle]

Here is a comparison of the D.P.M. and D.O. curricula at Midwestern University. D.O.s don't have summer classes (either have the summer off (I/II) or are on rotations (II/III)) or 3rd year classes, which is why no courses are listed for them at those times. Immunology is taken by D.P.M.s, D.O.s, and Pharm.D.s all in the same class, but D.P.M.s and D.O.s are credited(/graded?) differently than the Pharm.D. students. Physical Diagnosis is taken with P.A. students.

Year I, Same as D.O.:

Gross Anatomy
Biochemistry
Histology/Embryology
Physiology
Neuroscience
Immunology
Clinical Ethics/Medical Jurisprudence
(Optional Spring Elective: Advanced Dissection)

Year I, D.P.M. only:

Podiatric Medicine
Biomechanics
Podiatric Surgery

Year I, D.O. only:

Osteopathic Medicine
Introduction to Human Behavior
Introduction to Clinical Medicine

I/II Summer, D.P.M. only:

Advanced Lower Extremity Anatomy
Pediatric Orthopedics
Biomechanics
Medical Imaging
Podiatric Basic Skills

Year II, Same as D.O.:

Pathology
Pharmacology
Medical Microbiology

Year II, D.P.M. only:

General Medicine
Podiatric Medicine
Podiatric Basic Skills
Behavioral Medicine
Podiatric Pathomechanics
Physical Diagnosis

Year II, D.O. only:

Osteopathic Medicine
Introduction to Clinical Medicine
Patient Care Experiences
Introduction to Clerkship
Introduction to Radiology
Psychopathology
Cumulative Review
Mandatory Electives

II/III Summer, D.P.M. only:

Advanced Podiatric Surgery and Trauma
Orientation to OR and Anesthesia
General Medicine
Practice Management
Sports Medicine and Rehabilitation
General Orthopedics and Disorders of Bone

Year III, D.P.M. only:

Emergency Medicine
Podiatric Dermatology and Infectious Disease
Research, Community Health, and Evidence-Based Medicine
Applied Clinical Biomechanics