Cleveland Clinic Info?

[bigdan]

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Hi.

I'm a 4th year that will apply in anesthesiology. I wanna do a SICU rotation at Cleveland Clinic at some point this year, and was just wondering if anyone out there has any info about the ongoings or any advice about the place?

Thanks in advance!

dc

 

[CCLCMer]

I'm a third year student at the Cleveland Clinic. What exactly do you want to know?

 

[bigdan]

Awesome.

Thanks for the fast reply.

I'm interested in Anesthesia/Critical Care, and would like to know if there is anything that they expect in specific before that rotation; I know I can email the director, but do you know if there are specifics that a guy who's never seen the place before should know? For example:
- a preference for a text or resource?
- rounding style?
- teaching style?
- hours?
- willingness to let students do procedures?
- general treatment of medical students?
- tips on gettting around the hospital?

If you've got some info for me that would be better conveyed in person, I could PM you my cell number or get yours from you.

Thanks in advance!!

dc

 

[CCLCMer]

Haha, this is what I get for asking for more specifics. Ok, I will do my best to answer.

For more info about the CCF SICU rotation, you can look in the Case catalog: http://casemed.case.edu/RegistrarCatalog/CatViewMain.aspx?course_typ=B SICU is listed under Emergency Medicine/Intensive Care. There are three hospitals that offer rotations, so make sure you are reading the SICU entry for CCF. (It is EMMD 305 at the very bottom of the page.) I have not done this rotation, so I can't tell you too much about the specifics as far as time or teaching style. But it's an AI, so I assume it will be 80 hours per week. (We have a work limit at Case/CCLCM like residents do. I'm not sure if it extends to visiting students.) I believe the person you will contact to set up the rotation is Pat Gasser. She sets up the rotations for us as well. You've probably already found this, but here is the website for visiting students to apply to rotate at CCF: http://www.clevelandclinic.org/education/mse/default.asp

I have not yet rotated at any of the other hospitals, so I can't really make a comparison of how much we get to do versus what they get to do. I also doubt that third year rotation students get to do as much as fourth year sub-Is, so I don't think I could really answer that question anyway. My experience has been that the treatment of medical students at CCF is very good. Of course some attendings and housestaff are better teachers than others, but overall there is a lot of enthusiasm for teaching. Plus, this is a tertiary care hospital and you will see all kinds of amazing cases here.

Getting around the hospital is definitely a challenge. This is my third year, and I still get lost all the time whenever I have to go somewhere new. The building system is kind of weird. Some buildings have names, but all of them have letters. Sometimes the letters correspond to the purpose of the building, and sometimes they don't. The main hospital is in H and M. You would probably be mostly in G, assuming the SICU stays there. (Not sure what G stands for, but that's where the SICU is right now.) The new heart center and urology center are opening in a few months, so this place is going to get even more confusing. Many of the cardiac and surgery departments currently in F and G are going to move to the new building. I don't know if the SICU will move. Maybe Pat could tell you. Probably the best advice is to leave early any time you have to go somewhere new, because you are sure to get lost at least once or twice on the way. People are really friendly though and they will help you if you ask them for directions. I think they are used to seeing lost, confused medical students and residents wandering around the hospital!

Let's see, what else should a visiting student know. Oh, medical students wear long coats at the Cleveland Clinic. They will issue you one to wear while you're here, so you won't need your own school's white coat. We are allowed to eat in the doctor's dining room. We get money for dinner for any long calls and dinner plus breakfast for any overnight call. You can only use it at the cafeterias and not at any of the restaurants in the hospital. If you don't have somewhere to stay in Cleveland, ask Pat about visiting student housing. The TT building (where the housing is) is a pretty good hike away from the education building (where Pat's office is), so make sure you give yourself plenty of time to go check in the first day. Go on the skyway and follow the signs for the Lerner Research Institute, and you shouldn't get too lost. That's all I can think of right now. Hope it helps.

 

[bigdan]

Hey - thanks!

Nice little summary; kinda puts me at ease.

Sorry for all the questions.

Best,

dc