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Recently accepted to med school and was looking at potential conferences to go to this spring. I am a christian but not super conservative (socially pretty liberal). I was wondering if anyone can tell me about this organization. I can't get a sense of the organization from what I have seen online.

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Hey! I can tell you some as I am leader at CMDA at my school, you can DM me if you have any specific question!
 
Recently accepted to med school and was looking at potential conferences to go to this spring. I am a christian but not super conservative (socially pretty liberal). I was wondering if anyone can tell me about this organization. I can't get a sense of the organization from what I have seen online.
I fear that you are deceiving yourself into believing your a Christian. The Bible has an absolute standard, given by God, on how you are to live.
 
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I fear that you are deceiving yourself into believing your a Christian. The Bible has an absolute standard, given by God, on how you are to live.

Really? Take it to SPF if you really feel so inclined to judge another believer’s faith based on an internet post.
 
For what it is worth I went on a medical mission with them in med school and found that they were much more about the service aspect of christianity than any of the details of anyone's faith (or lack thereof as it wasn't required to be christian to go on the mission just not offended by others praying). As a lapsed catholic I appreciated that.
 
I am a christian but not super conservative (socially pretty liberal).

Ive never understood this. How can you proclaim yourself a Christian while believing and supporting things that are against said beliefs.

Thats like someone saying "I'm a Christian, but my husband and I are Swingers and do so every other Saturday" or "Im a Christian, but murdering babies is ok and I activity vote people into office that let this happen". That isnt to say you cant have grievances with a particular faith, and nobody is perfect, but to actively hold ideals that are antithetical to said belief while trying to encourage said faith strikes me as odd and a waste of everyone's time. The atheists might be dumb dependable sheep of the democratic party, but at least they embrace their heresy.
 
I fear that you are deceiving yourself into believing your a Christian. The Bible has an absolute standard, given by God, on how you are to live.

Ive never understood this. How can you proclaim yourself a Christian while believing and supporting things that are against said beliefs.

Thats like someone saying "I'm a Christian, but my husband and I are Swingers and do so every other Saturday" or "Im a Christian, but murdering babies is ok and I activity vote people into office that let this happen". That isnt to say you cant have grievances with a particular faith, and nobody is perfect, but to actively hold ideals that are antithetical to said belief while trying to encourage said faith strikes me as odd and a waste of everyone's time. The atheists might be dumb dependable sheep of the democratic party, but at least they embrace their heresy.

First of all, I am extremely disappointed that this is how this post was interpreted. When I requested information on this organization, I was not expecting to be attacked by using the phrase "socially liberal." I spent 10 years in a career working with disadvantaged people...some of whom who had abortions at some point in their lives. I have known hundreds of homosexuals, a handful of whom were good friends of mine. I don't think its fair to sit here and say I am not a christian because I had interactions with these individuals and had compassion for them. I was hoping to get involved in a christian organization to network and get involved in mission trips. I posted on here only to get more information, not have stones cast at me.
 
Hi there @physgal,

I'm a Christian too. Specifically I'm a conservative evangelical Christian. I'm not a CMDA member, but it's a solid organization, though it might depend on where you are, like your school. Maybe what you can do is to go meet with the CMDA people where you are and see what you think. You can also attend a conference without being a member. It's always good to see more Christian physicians and physicians-in-training!

As for the socially liberal thing, I think I understand where people are coming from, as I'm socially conservative too, but at the same time we want to persuade people and win people over, not push people away. If this was about joining a conservative Christian church, or becoming a member, then that might be a different issue, but this is about someone interested in finding out more information about CMDA is all. So my opinion is we shouldn't be immediately hostile to people, but instead ask them about themselves, get to know them, ask each other questions, such as what they mean by for example the phrase "socially liberal" (or socially conservative), if they can please explain what they believe and why they believe, so we can better understand each other, and things like that. That way we can hopefully better dialogue with each other and try to reason with and persuade each other. Or at least go our separate ways if we find we disagree too much to work together, but with a better understanding and respect for each other. "Speaking the truth in love" (Eph. 4:15)! That is my thinking at least. 🙂
 
First of all, I am extremely disappointed that this is how this post was interpreted. When I requested information on this organization, I was not expecting to be attacked by using the phrase "socially liberal." I spent 10 years in a career working with disadvantaged people...some of whom who had abortions at some point in their lives. I have known hundreds of homosexuals, a handful of whom were good friends of mine. I don't think its fair to sit here and say I am not a christian because I had interactions with these individuals and had compassion for them. I was hoping to get involved in a christian organization to network and get involved in mission trips. I posted on here only to get more information, not have stones cast at me.
Yes, their accusations were inappropriate given the context but you need to understand that in that very brief intro you managed to push a lot of buttons.

You give the impression that you're the type who's only "Christian" for census purposes or when it's convenient for you and quickly buckles when the pressure's on. Part of being Christian is standing up against things that are antithetical to the Christian faith, and you seem to have no interest in doing that. You'd rather just go with the flow and be "socially liberal" when you're around people than confront what the Christian faith calls evil and raise conflict. Sorry but that kind of wishy-washy nonsense just annoys me and, to slightly address the topic at hand, a lot of the Christians you hope to network with will pick up on to that and be averse. I'll get off my soapbox now.

And please don't bring up homosexuals in a way that insinuates Christians hate homosexuals. They don't. In fact they're one of the only groups who care about them enough to tell them what they don't want to hear, because telling them what they want to hear is easy, but, as many of my colleagues would attest, is not in their best interest and ultimately detrimental to their health.
 
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At many schools they will sponsor a weekly bible study or service for students. There are cmda conferences which classmates have liked but I never attended. And there are often a few local service opportunities or connections to foreign missions.

Is that what your asking?
 
This thread is a dumpster fire.

OP- you started out by saying an stackable statement. You said you were a Christian but not super conservative. You didn’t have to say that at all to gain information so you were saying it for a reason. Coupled with a previous thread about being a Christian, it makes me think you are just the type that wants to announce it to everyone like you are some rare thing in America.

And zero, you are the type of Christian that the OP wants to actively avoid being grouped with. You said that you love the LGBT community so much that you want to change what is wrong with them. It is that exact mentality that keeps homophobia so accepted and prevalent. It is that mentality that cause teens to commit suicide. It is that mentality that causes people to think that Christians hate the LGBT community.

And you may disagree but apparently I am the only one who loves you enough to tell you the truth you don’t want to hear.
 
This thread is a dumpster fire.

OP- you started out by saying an stackable statement. You said you were a Christian but not super conservative. You didn’t have to say that at all to gain information so you were saying it for a reason. Coupled with a previous thread about being a Christian, it makes me think you are just the type that wants to announce it to everyone like you are some rare thing in America.

And zero, you are the type of Christian that the OP wants to actively avoid being grouped with. You said that you love the LGBT community so much that you want to change what is wrong with them. It is that exact mentality that keeps homophobia so accepted and prevalent. It is that mentality that cause teens to commit suicide. It is that mentality that causes people to think that Christians hate the LGBT community.

And you may disagree but apparently I am the only one who loves you enough to tell you the truth you don’t want to hear.
“I find your activities inconsistent with my religious belief” doesn’t make people commit suicide.

By all means disagree with that poster but there is no reason to go overboard with the hysteria
 
“I find your activities inconsistent with my religious belief” doesn’t make people commit suicide.

By all means disagree with that poster but there is no reason to go overboard with the hysteria
"what you are doing or want to do is filthy and wrong and you will burn forever in hell for it" might, especially if it comes from someone you love and is brought up repeatedly
 
I saw this post before there were any responses, and thought to myself “Huh. ‘Christian’ in the title. This is gonna go off the rails quickly.”

I was just wrong in the cause. I thought the culprit would be reddit-type atheists . Still time for that I suppose.
 
There seems to be some gross misinterpretation for my intentions about this thread. I was purely looking for information as was the same with my thread about books about physicians and christianity. Instead I feel shamed for wanting to explore this side of my life further. I started going back to church in 2016 after spending several years away. Both of my posts were not meant to self proclaim my beliefs. Instead, I was looking for resources. Thank you to those who were able to contribute resources and suggestions that were relevant to my original post.
 
"what you are doing or want to do is filthy and wrong and you will burn forever in hell for it" might, especially if it comes from someone you love and is brought up repeatedly

Oyy, I’m throwing more trash into the dumpster fire here...

Homosexuality is not actually medically “detrimental to health,” provided appropriate std protection is utilized (also true in heterosexual relationships). Forcing heterosexuality on a homosexual, on the other hand, IS detrimental to mental health, as shown by the disaster that is conversion therapy. Emotional and verbal abuse from the resident bible thumper is too. Anyone who thinks that “lovingly being told your sexual preference is anti-Bible” is actually the way most gay people are approached by Christians is delusional or has somehow missed all the “god hates fags” types running around out there making a mockery of normal faithful people. I’m a physician, known outspoken conservative, solid in my community, and even I was told I was “going to hell” for marrying someone outside my baptized faith. I can’t imagine what these same “lovingly disagreeing” Christians might tell a gay man or woman behind closed doors.

I agree OP shouldn’t have brought up her liberal vs conservative leanings, as it has no relevance to her question and makes her look like she’s “saving face.” But all these people then proceeded to jump down OP’s throat to show how she was a bad Christian and how Christianity has specific prescriptions for behavior. The Bible also says you can sell your daughters into sexual slavery. It was written for tribal times, hence activities that threatened the propagation of the tribe/community (homosexuality which meant no kids, eating pork which was infested with parasites) were written down as “sins” to ensure the survival of the community. These “sins” evolved with time. Some fell into obscurity, others came into play. If a person followed the Bible to its word exactly today, they’d be jailed. And just as an FYI...The only thing God wrote in His own hand were the Ten Commandments. The rest was written by men, and thus is open to interpretation, and has been for years, even within the church itself (see Vatican I, II, etc.) So spare us the “but muh true Christian beliefs!” BS, and just answer the OP’s damn question instead of proselytizing.


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Oyy, I’m throwing more trash into the dumpster fire here...

Homosexuality is not actually medically “detrimental to health,” provided appropriate std protection is utilized (also true in heterosexual relationships). Forcing heterosexuality on a homosexual, on the other hand, IS detrimental to mental health, as shown by the disaster that is conversion therapy. Emotional and verbal abuse from the resident bible thumper is too. Anyone who thinks that “lovingly being told your sexual preference is anti-Bible” is actually the way most gay people are approached by Christians is delusional or has somehow missed all the “god hates fags” types running around out there making a mockery of normal faithful people. I’m a physician, known outspoken conservative, solid in my community, and even I was told I was “going to hell” for marrying someone outside my baptized faith. I can’t imagine what these same “lovingly disagreeing” Christians might tell a gay man or woman behind closed doors.

I agree OP shouldn’t have brought up her liberal vs conservative leanings, as it has no relevance to her question and makes her look like she’s “saving face.” But all these people then proceeded to jump down OP’s throat to show how she was a bad Christian and how Christianity has specific prescriptions for behavior. The Bible also says you can sell your daughters into sexual slavery. It was written for tribal times, hence activities that threatened the propagation of the tribe/community (homosexuality which meant no kids, eating pork which was infested with parasites) were written down as “sins” to ensure the survival of the community. These “sins” evolved with time. Some fell into obscurity, others came into play. If a person followed the Bible to its word exactly today, they’d be jailed. And just as an FYI...The only thing God wrote in His own hand were the Ten Commandments. The rest was written by men, and thus is open to interpretation, and has been for years (see Vatican I, II, etc.) So spare us the “but muh true Christian beliefs!” BS, and just answer the OP’s damn question instead of proselytizing.


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Can't tell if you are replying through my post to the others who were promoting a conservative viewpoint or if you got confused and thought I was advocating for people to make a statement like my quote.
 
"what you are doing or want to do is filthy and wrong and you will burn forever in hell for it" might, especially if it comes from someone you love and is brought up repeatedly
I’m going to disagree here. Christianity has about 100 things we aren’t allowed to do if we’re doing what we’re supposed to do and we don’t see those getting blamed for suicide
 
I’m going to disagree here. Christianity has about 100 things we aren’t allowed to do if we’re doing what we’re supposed to do and we don’t see those getting blamed for suicide
It isn't the christianity itself that is to blame. It is the actions that some take in the name of. There isn't as much "if you get divorced it will be filthy and wrong and you will burn in hell forever" or " using profanity is filthy and wrong and you will burn in hell for it" going on or we might see more suicides in response to it.
 
It isn't the christianity itself that is to blame. It is the actions that some take in the name of. There isn't as much "if you get divorced it will be filthy and wrong and you will burn in hell forever" or " using profanity is filthy and wrong and you will burn in hell for it" going on or we might see more suicides in response to it.
You clearly go to a different church than I have.....divorce, profanity, heavy drinking, porn, gossip, premarital sex, etc, etc, etc

someone saying they don’t like what you do is not a cause of suicide, that’s a mental health issue if that’s all that is going on
 
Christians are an incredibly diverse group in terms of specific doctrine and beliefs (hence so many denominations and different churches within those denominations). Its not fair or accurate to lump them all together with broad sweeping statements. There are a few loud, letter of the law types that make the rest look like jerks. But there are also many on the opposite spectrum who are very liberal and socially progressive. Heck, I know of a lesbian couple that pastors a church. Not all Christians believe homosexuality is a sin. Plus you gotta remember this Christian thing is not just America, its worldwide and there are soooo many cultural/tradition factors at play. *gets down from soapbox*
 
You clearly go to a different church than I have.....divorce, profanity, heavy drinking, porn, gossip, premarital sex, etc, etc, etc

someone saying they don’t like what you do is not a cause of suicide, that’s a mental health issue if that’s all that is going on
Random folks saying they don't like what you do, sure. But I am talking about the people who are supposed to love you turning away from you because they think what you are doing is horribly wrong. I obviously haven't been on the receiving end of that sort of thing before. However, I do remember feeling incredibly guilty and wrong for masturbating when I was younger as it was clearly considered a no no in the church I attended growing up. If, around that time, my parents had discovered what I was doing and repeatedly told me how filthy and hell bound I was for it, I can see it affecting my mental health in a really bad way. So I can imagine what would happen if things were a bit more public and the person gets to hear that from their parents, siblings, extended family, and friends in addition to at whatever church they had been attending (presumably someone who wasn't involved with religion at all wouldn't be too affected by being told they are going to hell).

I suppose the question I have for you is do you make the same types of comments to your family or friends if you hear they are divorcing, using profanity, watching porn, gossiping, or having premarital sex as you do if you find out they are gay? If so, good for you for being consistent (or choosing not to confront anyone about their personal activities). There are many people out there who only comment about the one and not the others. That is the sort of thing I am against. I don't care which religion people are using to justify it. I just know the whole "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" saying is inaccurate. You may consider it a mental weakness to allow words to affect you, but you have to admit it does occur.
 
You clearly go to a different church than I have.....divorce, profanity, heavy drinking, porn, gossip, premarital sex, etc, etc, etc

someone saying they don’t like what you do is not a cause of suicide, that’s a mental health issue if that’s all that is going on

It's not so much as "someone saying they don't like what you do" as it is the environment it creates. Depending on how severe it is it can really affect someone even up to the point of suicide. Think about all the bullying cases in middle/high schools that ends up in suicide.
 
You clearly go to a different church than I have.....divorce, profanity, heavy drinking, porn, gossip, premarital sex, etc, etc, etc

someone saying they don’t like what you do is not a cause of suicide, that’s a mental health issue if that’s all that is going on
Are you being purposefully obtuse or do you not see how one's whole culture and support structure turning around and telling them they are going to burn in hell for being gay might cause some people to commit suicide?
 
Are you being purposefully obtuse or do you not see how one's whole culture and support structure turning around and telling them they are going to burn in hell for being gay might cause some people to commit suicide?
I really think that’s a mental health issue
 
I can see how a situation like that could precipitate suicide in a mentally ill individual.
 
So you don't think their environment or Christianity has any affect on their suicide at all?
Not to any degree which would confer liabilty or act as a compelling reason for a religion to change.....
 
And to be clear, I’m speaking about having a religious stance, not performing weddings or ordaining people....

I’m not at all defending assault or harassment or anything crazy like that
 
please close this thread, this thread is not a debate of what degree of Christian you are, please discuss it elsewhere... OP if you have additional question please DM me but if i answered ur question please close the thread
 
Can someone help me tag a moderator to shut this thread down? Not my intention to open these flood gates.
 
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