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MD & DO co'21 Residency Panic thread
Started by kraskadva
What are you going after? Stats?Still at 2 II’s. Top 2 programs on my list but still. Starting to worry.
IM. 233 step 1. 238 step 2. No red flags. Canadian citizen. DO.What are you going after? Stats?
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Just finished my first interview. Honestly wasn't terrible. Zoom was smooth.
Prepare for WebEx cuz it sucks
Daaaaang, you should be hitting solid numbers. That’s weird man. Drop some emails.IM. 233 step 1. 238 step 2. No red flags. Canadian citizen. DO.
I’m still waiting on my top 2 🙁Still at 2 II’s. Top 2 programs on my list but still. Starting to worry.
the 5 I have now are like ... I don’t even know how I would rank them pre-interview
Oh no! My first interview is Monday and it is webex. Never used it before. Well, the meet and greet the night before will hopefully work out the kinks.Prepare for WebEx cuz it sucks
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Is it just me, or is the idea that you need to like faculty tweets to get an interview completed absurd? As in this process is bonkers.
it’s absurd because you don’t have to do that. JFC there is no relationship between following a program on social media and getting an interview.
lmao I'm on research blocks and I do computational research, so I'm literally sitting in front of screens all day. relatively convenient but mentally tiring.Breh the rate at which these interviews get taken up is unbelievable. Are people literally sitting in front of their screens all day?
I got one today, saw it coincidentally immediately as a notification, read it in 1 minute, went to ERAS scheduler, clicked on the first date and the first 3 dates are already gone. All within like 3 minutes. Brutal.
Can we check how we're looking on camera on WebEx like we can on Zoom?Prepare for WebEx cuz it sucks
Just installed it and I literally can't do anything it seems like until the actual meeting starts.
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AnatomyGrey12
WebEx is a nightmare. I did it for a virtual open house and it was brutal. Super glitchy.
Zoom is so much better.
Zoom is so much better.
There’s just no way programs are actually spending the time to see if that app is following them on Instagram or whatever. Honestly, if a program wants me to do something like that, then I super don’t care.Is it just me, or is the idea that you need to like faculty tweets to get an interview completed absurd? As in this process is bonkers.
Can confirm as a resident helping run a program's insta, no one is sending names of students up the chains after a follow. I don't even follow students back because I feel like it creates a false hope type thing that I don't want to feed into. The function for us is to show our program so that students can see if it's a good fit for them, not the other way around.There’s just no way programs are actually spending the time to see if that app is following them on Instagram or whatever. Honestly, if a program wants me to do something like that, then I super don’t care.
This is probably very subjective and specialty specific, but what's a good number of II's to have at this point?
Depending on when the specialty of your choice starts sending out IIs.
By the end of the third week from the onset of when your specialty starts sending out IIs, you should plan for a backup plan if you don’t get min 10 IIs.
A win?I agree. 8+ by Nov 21 in my opinion is a W for any applicant.
So, since this was the end of the 3rd week and a lot of specialties released week 1, we should be worried if we don’t have 10 now?Depending on when the specialty of your choice starts sending out IIs.
By the end of the third week from the onset of when your specialty starts sending out IIs, you should plan for a backup plan if you don’t get min 10 IIs.
My IM friends that have ~10 almost exclusively applied to community programs. I think the caliber of programs matter here. If you have a mix of both, I wouldn't worry about having <10, especially considering the fact that 5-6 IM interviews practically guarantee a match.So, since this was the end of the 3rd week and a lot of specialties released week 1, we should be worried if we don’t have 10 now?
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AnatomyGrey12
lol yes. A win in terms of # of interviews. "We like to make sure every student has at least 8 programs they interview at. If you do not have 8 interviews by the 3rd week in October..." Got this from a DO school site. But my school says the same thing in a usual year. This year could be 3rd or 4th week of November. Hard to tell.
Yes, this is not a normal cycle. The typical rules do not apply. I still wouldn't be panicking at this point unless you literally had zero interviews.
I would say 5 is a good number to have at this point. I know friends who range from 3-25 right now. I personally have 8, but it's specialty dependent and how broadly you applied ofc.So, since this was the end of the 3rd week and a lot of specialties released week 1, we should be worried if we don’t have 10 now?
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I just got an invite from a program in the southwest 15 minutes ago....very reasonable COL there as well. Sent a heads up email thru ERAS then sent the actual invitation thru Interview Broker a couple minutes later. Sitting at 8 IIs now...so the feeling of dread is less. I have a hunch a bunch of programs will be sending out IIs next week as well.
Just finished step2ck, honestly despite being 9hrs long I think it felt a bit better than step1? (Hopefully I get a higher score too).
Anyone else having some imposter syndrome creeping in as IVs come along? I still fear sometimes that I'm not strong enough clinically (a labmate once told me I was the kind of applicant who looks good on paper... talk about a backhanded compliment!). The more prestigious the place inviting me to interview is, the more I'm like, "yeah, you think you want me but just wait until I get there as an intern and you ask me to interpret an EKG, or a blood gas, or my approach to a CXR, etc. etc.") I guess I just have to trust in the process... though I learned from my first interview NOT to mention that I was in a longitudinal 3rd year clerkship program (with minimal inpatient time) as I could real time see the red flag flicker across the facial expression of the program director who was interviewing me on zoom
Anyone else having some imposter syndrome creeping in as IVs come along? I still fear sometimes that I'm not strong enough clinically (a labmate once told me I was the kind of applicant who looks good on paper... talk about a backhanded compliment!). The more prestigious the place inviting me to interview is, the more I'm like, "yeah, you think you want me but just wait until I get there as an intern and you ask me to interpret an EKG, or a blood gas, or my approach to a CXR, etc. etc.") I guess I just have to trust in the process... though I learned from my first interview NOT to mention that I was in a longitudinal 3rd year clerkship program (with minimal inpatient time) as I could real time see the red flag flicker across the facial expression of the program director who was interviewing me on zoom
Hey--residency is there for you to learn! You've earned your invites so don't be too hard on yourself! Save the pressure come intern year when the learning curve be steep for most of us =) Enjoy fourth year because we only get it once.. and congrats on finishing up Step!Just finished step2ck, honestly despite being 9hrs long I think it felt a bit better than step1? (Hopefully I get a higher score too).
Anyone else having some imposter syndrome creeping in as IVs come along? I still fear sometimes that I'm not strong enough clinically (a labmate once told me I was the kind of applicant who looks good on paper... talk about a backhanded compliment!). The more prestigious the place inviting me to interview is, the more I'm like, "yeah, you think you want me but just wait until I get there as an intern and you ask me to interpret an EKG, or a blood gas, or my approach to a CXR, etc. etc.") I guess I just have to trust in the process... though I learned from my first interview NOT to mention that I was in a longitudinal 3rd year clerkship program (with minimal inpatient time) as I could real time see the red flag flicker across the facial expression of the program director who was interviewing me on zoom![]()
Just finished step2ck, honestly despite being 9hrs long I think it felt a bit better than step1? (Hopefully I get a higher score too).
Anyone else having some imposter syndrome creeping in as IVs come along? I still fear sometimes that I'm not strong enough clinically (a labmate once told me I was the kind of applicant who looks good on paper... talk about a backhanded compliment!). The more prestigious the place inviting me to interview is, the more I'm like, "yeah, you think you want me but just wait until I get there as an intern and you ask me to interpret an EKG, or a blood gas, or my approach to a CXR, etc. etc.") I guess I just have to trust in the process... though I learned from my first interview NOT to mention that I was in a longitudinal 3rd year clerkship program (with minimal inpatient time) as I could real time see the red flag flicker across the facial expression of the program director who was interviewing me on zoom![]()
I'm sure you did great. It seems like most people see a step 2 score increase over their step 1.
Lol. That’s what we were all thinking last week about what has been a relatively dry week for me. None of us know anything.I just got an invite from a program in the southwest 15 minutes ago....very reasonable COL there as well. Sent a heads up email thru ERAS then sent the actual invitation thru Interview Broker a couple minutes later. Sitting at 8 IIs now...so the feeling of dread is less. I have a hunch a bunch of programs will be sending out IIs next week as well.
Man don’t snuff out my hope like that.Lol. That’s what we were all thinking last week about what has been a relatively dry week for me. None of us know anything.
Sorry dude. I hope it does go that way. But we’re all just trying to explain the mechanism of chaos at this point.Man don’t snuff out my hope like that.
The weekends have been the slowest for IVs. Not really expecting much action over the next few days. Goal for next week is 2 more and I'll have reached my goal. My home state has let me down so far but most have sent out little to no IVs. Next week is the big week for us all.
My home state has been similar. for us next week!
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AnatomyGrey12
Anybody know why there is less interviews sent out on the weekend? Do they just take off?
Staff typically don’t work weekends..
I suspect there's going to be an outpour of invites in the coming weeks to compensate for the early IV hoarding.. but that could be my subconscious talkingLol. That’s what we were all thinking last week about what has been a relatively dry week for me. None of us know anything.
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Anybody know why there is less interviews sent out on the weekend? Do they just take off?
It's possible but not the norm. I got a surprise one last night at like 11:30 PM. Guess we need to be on our damn phones 24/7 haha.
The last invite I got I scheduled within 30 seconds. Refreshed 2 minutes later and the positns were gone. Now I am glued to ERAS. Can't afford to miss an opportunity.
Which is absolutely ridiculous. I realize this year is wonky for programs, but if you’re offering more invites than spots shame on you
I had one spell out in the message something like “we have not over invited and you can take 48 hours to look.”Which is absolutely ridiculous. I realize this year is wonky for programs, but if you’re offering more invites than spots shame on you
I had one spell out in the message something like “we have not over invited and you can take 48 hours to look.”
Sad that they have to say that.
40. Interviews both at uni program and top tier community.A non-US AMG. Never knew they existed. How many programs you apply too?
Thank you very much. Hope so.It seems like thats a typical number for USAMG. Don't know what difference, if any, being a non-US AMG makes, especially since theyre all top tier. Do you know similar applicants? Hopefully, you'll get more soon. Next week should be good.
Ya this will be the quietest weekend so far me thinks. Of course most schools have the invites they want sent out so I do not expect much moving forward.They might as well shut ERAS down on the weekend. What a waste of time.
to my rads friends- it seems like no matter if it's a community or upper tier academic program, the fellowship placement lists for the graduates are crazy good. Are programs just reporting the best placements or are rads fellowship just chill like that?
I got an invite today just before noon. Traditional DO program.
Rad fellowship placement really is chill. I'm not exactly sure why that is but it's definitely real. Community programs regularly have top tier fellowship matches. It's not something to worry about IMO.to my rads friends- it seems like no matter if it's a community or upper tier academic program, the fellowship placement lists for the graduates are crazy good. Are programs just reporting the best placements or are rads fellowship just chill like that?
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Anyone else feel like their invites are really random and not at all where they would have predicted?
I can’t get local historically DO community programs to invite me, but I have an invite to an OOS university program across the country with no ties, 3% DOs, and required scholarly activity and I have zero ever.
I can’t get local historically DO community programs to invite me, but I have an invite to an OOS university program across the country with no ties, 3% DOs, and required scholarly activity and I have zero ever.
Anyone else feel like their invites are really random and not at all where they would have predicted?
I can’t get local historically DO community programs to invite me, but I have an invite to an OOS university program across the country with no ties, 3% DOs, and required scholarly activity and I have zero ever.
For me it's been a mix of random and networking (attended residency fair, local program and/or audition site, and professional connections) that have landed me invites. I'll take them all. So far I have 8 invites....and I'm waitlisted at an Ivy League program which was totally unexpected. I just want 13 interviews. Apparently if you can get 13 IIs in EM, you have a better than 75% of matching in the top 3 of your ROL.
A couple of places that extended me invites were totally unexpected.
I think I'd have more invites right now but I pretty much avoided interior US....nearly all my applications went to coastal states and/or beautiful places to live with a couple of Hail Marys thrown in for good measure. I think (hope) my board scores and unique app allow me to get away with this strategy.
Yeah. This ain’t IM. You can literally get any fellowship from any program.to my rads friends- it seems like no matter if it's a community or upper tier academic program, the fellowship placement lists for the graduates are crazy good. Are programs just reporting the best placements or are rads fellowship just chill like that?
to my rads friends- it seems like no matter if it's a community or upper tier academic program, the fellowship placement lists for the graduates are crazy good. Are programs just reporting the best placements or are rads fellowship just chill like that?
I’ve noticed this too.
I think take note of the programs they match at in case you may want to match fellowship at a specific program one day. Past that, not a huge deal.
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Do emails not lettersThoughts on sending thank you letters after interviews to PD and others you interviewed with? Not sure if it’s a common courtesy or would be considered annoying
I've been on two interviews and I really don't know how I'm going to get enough important information or gut feeling from quick zoom sessions to actually change any of my pre-interview rank lists spots barring like a disaster from a program on an interview day. These feel like formalities almost.
My dog has gotten into the pre-interview meet and greets and stuff but just put them in a room so they don’t jump on yaMy cats are definitely going to want to get some face time during interviews. Anyone have this problem?
II at 9 AM this morning.
We are never safe. Be vigilant out there
We are never safe. Be vigilant out there
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