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Rufus_III

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Biotechnology Major Pre Med Freshman

I have some friends that told me I should take CSE 110 (Principles of Programming- Java) next semester as it helped them get internships over the summer at TGen (a research institute here in Arizona). It could also broaden my area of expertise and make me a well rounded student.

Is it worth it?
 
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@Rufus_III The entire point of taking the Java class is to give you a programming background to push you further into specialization. You won't be more "well rounded," rather you will be more suited for questions that might be asked from a bioinformatics perspective that it seems your standard curriculum is lacking. An institute like TGen might not be looking for general studies in biotechnology because honestly the overlap between the type of assays and genetic sequencing you do has significant overlap with other fields like biochemistry, biology, chemistry, and microbiology. In other words, it is likely that they have many student interns or graduate interns who apply for internships who can do basic laboratory bench work.

However, having someone who understands the framework e.g. what is the basis of BLAST and how does it incorporate PERL/Python elements in order to establish data patterns? Are you familiar with using biopython or BioPerl, in which cases have you used it for research or for homework and can you tell me of a situation where it would be appropriate? How familiar are you with a base language whether it is Java, Perl, or Python and if I were to make a back-end request would you feel comfortable with doing it for me? These are fundamentally questions that a new grad who followed your biotechnology program probably couldn't answer unless they already had significant interest in CS or computer science from the get go. However, they highlight areas in which bioinformatics (a subset of biotechnology) can be fundamentally different from a lot of overlapping majors.
 
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"It could also broaden my area of expertise and make me a well rounded student."

Truth be told, this isn't actually that important to medical schools. Don't get me wrong, I also took an introductory CS class in Java and found it extremely interesting, but it has been pretty useless in my premed-med career. If the TGen internship is something that you believe will be a meaningful experience for you and will help you get into medical school, then you should take the course.

If anything, I think taking introductory courses simply for personal edification is worth it, but the course by itself won't help your application any more than an A in another course would.

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Please keep in mind that >40% of all applicants to medical school do not get into medical school and have to find an alternate career. And that's only those who get far enough along the path to actually submit an application; many pre-meds don't even get that far. I don't say that to be a downer but to say that you should choose classes that will prepare you for alternate careers that you might be interested in exploring if you decide to take a gap year after college or if you end up going pro in something other than medicine.

That said, choose elective classes that will maximize your GPA. There are no rewards (other than learning, what a concept) for earning B+ grades, or lower, in elective courses.
 
Personally, I think a Java or other programming class is a great idea. My programming “background” (3 programming classes in hs/college) has served me well in medicine so far - my med school research involved me coding the scripts for our data analysis, for one - and it’s a good fallback skill if med school doesn’t work out.

But I also feel very strongly that high schools/colleges should require coding classes in place of other GEs since it’s a practical skill people could use, so I may be biased here.
 
But I also feel very strongly that high schools/colleges should require coding classes in place of other GEs since it’s a practical skill people could use, so I may be biased here.

Yeah, while I enjoyed early world history, I have to coding is much more useful
 
For the record, I've found it extremely easy to find research experience with a programming background. Also, it is a fact of life that computational research as an undergrad is a huge quality of life boost. I don't go into lab, and publication timelines are much shorter as well.
 
For the record, I've found it extremely easy to find research experience with a programming background. Also, it is a fact of life that computational research as an undergrad is a huge quality of life boost. I don't go into lab, and publication timelines are much shorter as well.

What about as a med student [emoji3166]
 
What about as a med student [emoji3166]
Well, I don't know what it's like, but everywhere where I have been interviewing, it seems incredibly easy to find research positions. It's definitely still going to be a lot less painful than bench research.
 
For the record, I've found it extremely easy to find research experience with a programming background. Also, it is a fact of life that computational research as an undergrad is a huge quality of life boost. I don't go into lab, and publication timelines are much shorter as well.
Hah same! I don't even know anyone except my PI in my lab! I work at home in my underwear, and never have to stand or pipette or wash things. Pretty much the only benefit of being a CS major.


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I'd recommend it IF and only if you are interested. The amount of application this can have for research is huge, and really quite cool.
 
Hah same! I don't even know anyone except my PI in my lab! I work at home in my underwear, and never have to stand or pipette or wash things. Pretty much the only benefit of being a CS major.


To op:
I'd recommend it IF and only if you are interested. The amount of application this can have for research is huge, and really quite cool.
i applaud your commitment to the username with your bespoke member pic
 
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