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Columbia or UCSF
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No I have not recieved the letter yet.
which is required in NY in order to practice i believe, and it explains its 96%.
there is no way a school can send 96% of class to really competitive specialties such as ortho, oral surgery, etc.
spots open for those are usually 3-6 and there are too many qualified dental students out there for columbia to dominate 96%
from reading through SDN, it seems like UCSF will give you more of clinical exposures but i think you can't go wrong with either one
I've been thinking about this...
Columbia has 96% postdoctoral placement. so if you dont include GPR, AEGD, UNIF. SVC., NHSC, Fellowships and Dual Degrees, its actually 47%. This is close to UCLA, which from what I recall, has a speciality rate of 55%. At UCSF on the other hand, half the students go into postdoctoral and of those half are "true" specialities as Dr. Betbeze refered to them.
!BUT! I wouldn't be tooooo concerned with these numbers, though b/c you have to take into account the fact that we don't know the percentage that even applied to these specialities. Surely if 47% of columbia applied for speciality and 100% got in, that says something different than if 90% of UCLA applied and only 55% were accepted, for example.
SInce we probably wont ever get that information, I think at the end of the day we should base our decision on the focus of the school. Columbia's curriculum seems specialty-focused and many of its students seem to go to the school with this as their goal. UCLA/UCSF on the other hand, i feel are not as intense in this respect and rather balanced, which works out for someone like me who doesn't know if they want to specliaize yet but would like to keep the option open.
SoO in conclusion........ 55%, 47%, 25%, who cares! I promise you no matter where you go your chances of success will depend on the effort you invest in your time there, and not solely on these statistics. At any rate, i wish all of you limitless success in all your endeavors!
Columbia has 96% postdoctoral placement. so if you dont include GPR, AEGD, UNIF. SVC., NHSC, Fellowships and Dual Degrees, its actually 47%. This is close to UCLA, which from what I recall, has a speciality rate of 55%. At UCSF on the other hand, half the students go into postdoctoral and of those half are "true" specialities as Dr. Betbeze refered to them.
!BUT! I wouldn't be tooooo concerned with these numbers, though b/c you have to take into account the fact that we don't know the percentage that even applied to these specialities. Surely if 47% of columbia applied for speciality and 100% got in, that says something different than if 90% of UCLA applied and only 55% were accepted, for example.
SInce we probably wont ever get that information, I think at the end of the day we should base our decision on the focus of the school. Columbia's curriculum seems specialty-focused and many of its students seem to go to the school with this as their goal. UCLA/UCSF on the other hand, i feel are not as intense in this respect and rather balanced, which works out for someone like me who doesn't know if they want to specliaize yet but would like to keep the option open.
SoO in conclusion........ 55%, 47%, 25%, who cares! I promise you no matter where you go your chances of success will depend on the effort you invest in your time there, and not solely on these statistics. At any rate, i wish all of you limitless success in all your endeavors!
both are top schools, all that should matter now is location 🙄
Actually Columbia's specialization rates were at the same rate before 2007 when NY changed its policy to require a 1 year AEGD or GPR to practice. I asked about this specifically during the interview and they showed us they were 95%+ for the last 10 years or so.
I'm sure you've heard this at some of your interviews. No matter where you go to school, you'll receive the proper training to become a decent dentist. Personally, I'd look at the following criteria:
-Tuition
-Cost of living
-Distance from home
-And then of course things like the passing rate on the national boards & % specialized.
-Tuition
-Cost of living
-Distance from home
-And then of course things like the passing rate on the national boards & % specialized.
