comlex level 2PE fail

[hopefulDO1988]

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Hey everyone,
I just found out that I failed my PE. Does anyone know how this is going to affect my chance of residency interviews and the match? Any help is appreciated. Thank you.

 

[Kissmyabjj]

Me too. I haven't failed a single this since I started medical school either. Blew my ****ing mind. I didn't match either. I am pretty much ****ed.

 

[WonderBoy]

Depends on what residency you are going for? We had a few failures in the class and these were people who did well on other boards, they all ended up matching. Maybe the more competitive residencies aka ROAD you may have difficulty or explain at the interviews and of course its depends on what your other board scores are as well.

Did you fail humanistic portion? I would recommend Dr. Kauffman's videos from combank I used those and his book over a two week period along with practicing a few cases with family and friends, passed first time.

Good luck!

 

[p1acebo]

Do well on your board exams, explain the failure in your personal statement, and make sure you rotate at the places you want to match to and show them you are not socially inept. All hope is not loss, you definitely can still match with a PE failure on first attempt.

 

[hopefulDO1988]

Yeah I have never failed an OSCE in my first 2 years and I ended up failing the humanistic portion of the PE. I am not even sure what I did wrong so I can better prepare for the next attempt. I would like to do Internal Medicine and hopefully the allopathic match. I really hope this is not what keeps me from matching into a residency. I plan to rotate at a few osteopathic programs to show them that I am not socially inept but I was wondering how much do the allopathic programs care about the PE?

 

[The kitchen sink]

Yeah I have never failed an OSCE in my first 2 years and I ended up failing the humanistic portion of the PE. I am not even sure what I did wrong so I can better prepare for the next attempt. I would like to do Internal Medicine and hopefully the allopathic match. I really hope this is not what keeps me from matching into a residency. I plan to rotate at a few osteopathic programs to show them that I am not socially inept but I was wondering how much do the allopathic programs care about the PE?

If it makes you feel better, I know of a fellow 4th year that had great stats that failed PE, and still matched into his #1 Allopathic IM program.

 

[OCDEMS]

Yeah I have never failed an OSCE in my first 2 years and I ended up failing the humanistic portion of the PE. I am not even sure what I did wrong so I can better prepare for the next attempt. I would like to do Internal Medicine and hopefully the allopathic match. I really hope this is not what keeps me from matching into a residency. I plan to rotate at a few osteopathic programs to show them that I am not socially inept but I was wondering how much do the allopathic programs care about the PE?

I know at our school they are constantly harping on us about the humanistic portion of PE and, in turn, how it is the domain that is most routinely failed. We've been told that simple things like not thanking the patient can be a big deal. Additionally, it's important to acknowledge your patient's statements. For example, when evaluating a family history, a patient tells you that their mother has died. You need to acknowledge the loss and express a societally appropriate response. We're literally told to do this for every terrible or depressing thing that the patient talks about, even if it wouldn't really occur real life. The example that was classically given in class was the 85 year old male patient who lost his mother 20 years ago. Even though the passing of elderly relatives is a normal part of life and even though it's been more than 20 years, it's still important to acknowledge the loss as if it happened even one year prior. Things like not properly covering the patient or leaving them exposed longer than necessary can also be big issues.

Again, sorry to hear about your situation. Hopefully these tips from our professors help next time.

 

[scummie]

I heard these horror stories with residents I rotated with. Some were like, "Don't worry about it, only *****s fail this." Others warned about the seemingly random failures people had--like matching ROAD, but failing PE/CS. I read the red & black book and studied the green OMM book about 3 weeks before the exam date. There is also a Kaplan book out there. What helps is they have practice cases that you can do with a friend. What was your prep like?

When I took my PE, I really emphasized the humanistic part. They sneezed? Tissue offered. Anything to make them more comfortable? Any questions? Any concerns? Glass of water? You really are at their mercy.

There's something like a 95% pass rate, but you shouldn't go into any exam thinking statistics will save you.

 

[Makati2008]

I heard these horror stories with residents I rotated with. Some were like, "Don't worry about it, only *****s fail this." Others warned about the seemingly random failures people had--like matching ROAD, but failing PE/CS. I read the red & black book and studied the green OMM book about 3 weeks before the exam date. There is also a Kaplan book out there. What helps is they have practice cases that you can do with a friend. What was your prep like?

When I took my PE, I really emphasized the humanistic part. They sneezed? Tissue offered. Anything to make them more comfortable? Any questions? Any concerns? Glass of water? You really are at their mercy.

There's something like a 95% pass rate, but you shouldn't go into any exam thinking statistics will save you.

This is very very good advice. I did those things and the exam was no problem. Also offering to have follow up,talk the family etc... Is helpful

 

[Kissmyabjj]

Just found out that I passed the second time. I read Kaufman's book (not all of the cases though) and bought his online PE material. I highly recommend the online stuff. I probably went through 50 or so cases between going through the book (with a friend of mine) and the 15 or so cases there were online.

I really screwed up the OMM this time too. I got an anterior rib tenderpoint, lumbar sprain and strain, and IT band. I couldn't remember the text book ways to set up the rib and IT band, so I pretty much made them up. I guess it worked.

 

[scummie]

Good job!