commerical doc Poll

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To get some solid numbers for commerical docs here (I'm sure plenty of people would like to know since there no solid answer been given ANYWHERE on this site, or anywhere for that matter)

Number of hours worked per week:
Average number of pre-tax dollars earned per week:
Patients per Day:
State of residence and employer name:

I'll total them up after a while.

 

[KHE]

To get some solid numbers for commerical docs here (I'm sure plenty of people would like to know since there no solid answer been given ANYWHERE on this site, or anywhere for that matter)

Number of hours worked per week:
Average number of pre-tax dollars earned per week:
Patients per Day:
State of residence and employer name:

I'll total them up after a while.

There are FAR too many varilables in question like this for you to ever get accurate information.

1) Is the person a lease holding doctor, an employee of the company, or an employee of a lease holding doctor?
2) Patients per day in commercial practice is literally all over the map. Some it's just a small handfull, for others it can be upwards of 50 or 60.
3) Pre tax dollars earned depends again on the structure of the employment and whether it is as an employee or an independent contractor.

Again...far too many variables for you to be able to develop anywhere close to an accurate summary.

 

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1) I was under the impression most independant contractor commercial docs that worked full time or close were lease-holding or employed by lease-holding docs, and that the percentage of them as W-2 filing "employees" are extremely rare since you'd have to be HMO or government employed for that to be true. that being said I was expecting the responses to come from full time (40-50 hr/wk) single lease-holders at walmart, lenscrafter, etc.

2) good answer, but a large standard deviation doesnt mean I don't want the data. more patients = more money right? since in the usual case, you get paid what you charge

3) see first point. the only difference I see is between filing 1099 and W-2 is the 7.6%ish extra taxes on the IC but you get to deduct a few (insiginificant) things. By pre-tax I mean before paying personal income taxes, but after any corporate/business/other taxes if such things apply.

Yes theres plenty of variables and I probably should specify geographic region, personal hygiene levels, and feng shui/karma score too right? Just looking for an estimate, and I think those estimates should be fairly close between various commerical docs. I would go with the BLS numbers or the salary.com numbers or the AOA numbers but the AOA one looks too high and the BLS looks a little low.

To Fonziefonz: thanks for wasting bandwidth and giving us your opinion of what information other people want to give out.

 

[prettygreeneyes]

To Fonziefonz: thanks for wasting bandwidth and giving us your opinion of what information other people want to give out.

I'll second his opinion. Most people are unwilling to share how much money they make. Yes - this is an online forum, but everyone should realize it is not hard to figure out who people are, especially if they are active members in other online optometry forums. 😉 Beyond that, there are not that many doctors that even participate on this forum, and a good portion of those that do are not in corporate optometry. If you are a student or doctor, you could possibly ask the same question on ODWire, but 1) you'll get attacked for even asking a question about corporate 2) people have asked your same question in the past and have been unable to get any sort of meaningful data. Perhaps this time it will be different, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

 

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I'll give you some real data from my (part-time) corporate experiences.

Number of hours worked per week: 20-25 hrs/week

Average number of pre-tax dollars earned per week: Varies tremendously. I've made as much as $1800 or so and as little as $500 or so in those 20-25 hrs. I'd say right around $1000-1100 average.

Patients per Day: Again, varies. Anywhere from 0 to 16. Most often on the lower end.

State of residence and employer name: South Dakota, myself.

There you go.

 

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thanks