hello..thx u so much for the replies..thx a lot
but i want to ask more if u don't mind...
1. i apologize if i am being a stubborn and bothering u, but i am still confuse : the 2nd formula i found in the book is really like this :
corrected anion gap : actual AG - {2.5 ( 4 - albumin) } ...
for ex. i saw in.Swartz surgery textbook..
but,
i noticed that when using the 2nd formula, the normal anion gap is 12 (+/- 4), and if i use the 1 st formula, the normal anion gap is reduced to only 6(+/-4) ...
my friend told me that the different range of the normal anion gap is because of different laboratory examination method being used...the AG = 12 use a method that do not acknowledge the albumin from the other anions but the new Normal AG = 6 acknowledge it..
.is it probably because of this different normal range of AG and the different method being used ,so the formula has changed or is it purely miss written by the writer?
2.i have a case : a 77 year old woman suddenly felt week since 1 day ago..she was admitted to the ER on the next day..she had a respiratory muscular weakness, seizure and also an old right brain infarct, no intracranial bleeding signs appeared, the lab results is like this:
CBC: Normal
Liver function test: AST/ALT :NORMAL
BLOOD GLUCOSE: 186 mg/dl (N: 60-180)
Ureum: 93 mg/dl ( N: 10-43 )
Creatinine: 2.3 mg/dl (N: 0.00-1.10)
Na: 130 mmol/L
K: 4 mmol/dl
CL: 97 mmol/dl
Ca total: 9.8 mg/dl
albumin : 3
blood gas analysis:
pH: 7.29 (Normal pH:7.35-7.45)
P O2: 343.0 mmHg(with NRM 15l/mnt) (N: 85-100 on room air)
PCO2 : 53.1 mmHg (N: 38-42 )
HCO3 :25.9 mmol/L (N: 19-29 )
base excess : -0.2 (N: -2.5 - +2.5)
TCO2 : 27.5 mmol/L (N: 19-25.0)
how do you approach to diagnose the ABG of this patient?
i use the 5 rules:
1. the pH is acidemia
2.because the PCO2 is high : maybe this is the respiratory acidosis
3. serum anion gap: 139 - (97+ 25.9) : 16.1
because the patient has 3.0 albumin, i correct the patient AG: 16.1 + 2,5 (4 - 3) : 18.6
(more than 10 meq/L but still below 20 meq/L) ,so it has also probably coexisting metabolic acidosis
4. check for the degree of compensation...
now i am quiet confused when stepping to this rule...because there has already 2 acid base disorder, how can i calculate the compensation with those 2 acid base disorders existing? should i count only the compensation for acidosis respiratory or should i evaluate both? how can i use it to evaluate if there is the hidden 3rd or 4th acid base disorder coexist in this patient?please give me an example ..i am confuse
thx u so much
warm regards,Ketap