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golfmontpoker

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Hey all... Would just like to tell everyone that this is one of the greatest communities online, everyone actually cares about eachother and truly gives good advice. Anways, I have been truly thinking the past couple days about why I want to pursue dentistry, and you know what? I really cant think of a reason other then running my own business and making REALLLY good $$$... THATS IT! I can do that doing MANY MANY MANY other things... Like law school or business school.
For all the folks out there that are truly in it just for the money, withdraw. Let the people that really want to pursue dentistry do it. If you want money, do somthing else. PERIOD! I have came to this conclusion, i truly want the money and title, and nothing else... This might sound greedy, un-empathetic, and pure out A$$HOLE, but u know what? I truly dont think this is my calling. So you people out there that just want the money, give the people that want this a better chance. Go get your MBA, JD, or go into realestate or somthing...
I lack the motivation, dedication, and basically the heart to pursue dentistry... I cant stand shadowing, i hate studying for the f*cking DAT, and when it comes down to it, i LACK the financial resources for all the application fees and the traveling expenses it would take for interviews. I must consider the financial constraints... Its not realistic for my circumstances.
Im still going to apply for the 2007 cycle, but im going to only apply to NYU and BU... as for the DAT? Im going to cram for 2 weeks before the test and take it... see what happens. I might score sh*tty, i might score really well. I honestly dont care. It will be a good life experiance any way i look at it.
Flame me if you want, because i honestly dont give a rats @ss... The main point of my rant is this: IF YOU ARE IN IT JUST FOR THE MONEY, DONT DO IT! LET THE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT REALLY WANT IT GET IT!
 
have you been drinking tonight? I hope you feel better in the morning. I've seen your posts for a while, and I don't know where this is coming from. It seemed like you were into dentistry for dentistry.

at this point, it seems like you are facing your life truthfully, sort of...

you say don't do it if you're heart's not in it, but then why are you still applying if you fit in that category?? If you don't have much dough why bother applying and spending anymore if you don't care for it? If this is not the path for you then stop now and don't waste your time.

your post was entirely contradictory. I think you will regret saying what you said if you stick through this dental thing, so I would think about removing my pic from my avatar for future purposes.

In any case, whatever you do, best of luck. God bless.
 
mlle said:
have you been drinking tonight? I hope you feel better in the morning. I've seen your posts for a while, and I don't know where this is coming from. It seemed like you were into dentistry for dentistry.

at this point, it seems like you are facing your life truthfully, sort of...

you say don't do it if you're heart's not in it, but then why are you still applying if you fit in that category?? If you don't have much dough why bother applying and spending anymore if you don't care for it? If this is not the path for you then stop now and don't waste your time.

your post was entirely contradictory. I think you will regret saying what you said if you stick through this dental thing, so I would think about removing my pic from my avatar for future purposes.

In any case, whatever you do, best of luck. God bless.
I dont care if adcoms see my pic... really dont. I will tell the truth during an interview if i get one. I have already spent a large amount of money on DAT material. Being a smart person when it comes to finances, im still going to take it. I have invested the money therefore im going to go through with it. Since I have spent some money, im going to go through with it. Im applying to 2 schools, and if i get accepted... i will go, just for the money...
 
golfmontpoker said:
Hey all... Would just like to tell everyone that this is one of the greatest communities online, everyone actually cares about eachother and truly gives good advice. Anways, I have been truly thinking the past couple days about why I want to pursue dentistry, and you know what? I really cant think of a reason other then running my own business and making REALLLY good $$$... THATS IT! I can do that doing MANY MANY MANY other things... Like law school or business school.
For all the folks out there that are truly in it just for the money, withdraw. Let the people that really want to pursue dentistry do it. If you want money, do somthing else. PERIOD! I have came to this conclusion, i truly want the money and title, and nothing else... This might sound greedy, un-empathetic, and pure out A$$HOLE, but u know what? I truly dont think this is my calling. So you people out there that just want the money, give the people that want this a better chance. Go get your MBA, JD, or go into realestate or somthing...
I lack the motivation, dedication, and basically the heart to pursue dentistry... I cant stand shadowing, i hate studying for the f*cking DAT, and when it comes down to it, i LACK the financial resources for all the application fees and the traveling expenses it would take for interviews. I must consider the financial constraints... Its not realistic for my circumstances.
Im still going to apply for the 2007 cycle, but im going to only apply to NYU and BU... as for the DAT? Im going to cram for 2 weeks before the test and take it... see what happens. I might score sh*tty, i might score really well. I honestly dont care. It will be a good life experiance any way i look at it.
Flame me if you want, because i honestly dont give a rats @ss... The main point of my rant is this: IF YOU ARE IN IT JUST FOR THE MONEY, DONT DO IT! LET THE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT REALLY WANT IT GET IT!

Hey man,

I've read your posts too and I think you'd make a great Dentist. If you're worried about the financial realities of the application process, then my advice would be for you to get the money any which way you can (albeit legal). Once you become a dentist you would be in a good position to pay back all the loans.

However, the main thing that strikes me about your post is your shadowing experience. If you're certain you won't like performing the procedures you've observed then its probably right for you to quit. However, if you hate the standing, and the quiet/awkward environment then its nothing too serious because we've all dreaded that.

Rethink it, and maybe you'll realize your true calling.

Good luck.
 
KHANSAHAAB said:
Hey man,

I've read your posts too and I think you'd make a great Dentist. If you're worried about the financial realities of the application process, then my advice would be for you to get the money any which way you can (albeit legal). Once you become a dentist you would be in a good position to pay back all the loans.

However, the main thing that strikes me about your post is your shadowing experience. If you're certain you won't like performing the procedures you've observed then its probably right for you to quit. However, if you hate the standing, and the quiet/awkward environment then its nothing too serious because we've all dreaded that.

Rethink it, and maybe you'll realize your true calling.

Good luck.
Its not the hate of the procedures... its the hate of standing there and feeling awkward... cant STAND it! Im not saying dentistry it out of the question... but right now in my life, i have some serious thinking to do. I think dentistry was a premature decision on my part
 
I wouldn't close all doors to dentistry and I would still go ahead and TRY to get in. Shadowing a dentist is WAY different than going to a dental school. I didn't really do anything spectacular shadowing my dentist (HELL! It was damn awkward considering my dentist dealt with Mandarin speaking patients), but when I actually toured a dental school during an interview you really get to see what dentistry really is about. I just think that dentistry isn't working in a small clinic, it's also about research and developing new techniques and I think that is why dentistry is such a good profession. I would explore the different aspects of dentistry before giving up on it entirely. Hope you make the right decision for yourself.
 
I agree with everyone else. You have made tons of posts and I believe you do want to be a dentist. Did it suck studying for the DAT for 4 months while all of my friends got drunk and partied? YES. Is it ackward standing there watching someone work and not being able to participate? YES. The road to becoming a dentist is a very long one. We dedicate our entire undergraduate years to gaining admission to a professional school. Then we give atleast 4 more years to mastering the skill in dental school. It is not a fun process, but we all do it with the hopes of coming out with Dr. in front of our names. I understand where you are coming from. Everyone has had times in their life when they have doubted their decisions. If your heart is not set on dentistry, then you shouldn't pursue it. In the same light, dont drop it because you have hit a bump in the road. Taking the LSAT or GMAT is also a huge challenge. Getting a JD or MBA is no walk in the park. If you want to pursue graduate studies, it will be hard regardless of whether it is dental, medical, vet, law or business school. You will make great money as a lawyer as well, but the workload will be just as big. If studying for the DAT is too much, how can you handle a 60 hour/week clerkship? In my opinion, you have hit the low point that every predent hits in this process. You just have to realize what your dream is and go for it!
 
prez_al said:
I wouldn't close all doors to dentistry and I would still go ahead and TRY to get in. Shadowing a dentist is WAY different than going to a dental school. I didn't really do anything spectacular shadowing my dentist (HELL! It was damn awkward considering my dentist dealt with Mandarin speaking patients), but when I actually toured a dental school during an interview you really get to see what dentistry really is about. I just think that dentistry isn't working in a small clinic, it's also about research and developing new techniques and I think that is why dentistry is such a good profession. I would explore the different aspects of dentistry before giving up on it entirely. Hope you make the right decision for yourself.
Thats the thing... i DONT wanna try for the DAT. I dont think its worth it. You only live once, and to sacrifice one of the last summers you have to study just doesnt seem worth it. I want to live life... experiance different things, have FUN. Maybe I will grow up in the next couple years and experiance the real world, with an MBA or JD... But being an MBA and a DDS sounds good... Im willing to wait and have some fun on the way
 
golfmontpoker said:
Thats the thing... i DONT wanna try for the DAT. I dont think its worth it. You only live once, and to sacrifice one of the last summers you have to study just doesnt seem worth it. I want to live life... experiance different things, have FUN. Maybe I will grow up in the next couple years and experiance the real world, with an MBA or JD... But being an MBA and a DDS sounds good... Im willing to wait and have some fun on the way

No offense, but you sound like a dumb**s. Your original post makes it sound like you don't want to do dentistry period. Yet you're still going to take the DAT after cramming, and if you do get into one of 2 schools, you'll be willing to go into debt of 300K and 4 years of more school. If you're not committed right now, and theway you sound in this thread, you probably won't make it thru dental school.
 
nothen2do said:
No offense, but you sound like a dumb**s. Your original post makes it sound like you don't want to do dentistry period. Yet you're still going to take the DAT after cramming, and if you do get into one of 2 schools, you'll be willing to go into debt of 300K and 4 years of more school. If you're not committed right now, and theway you sound in this thread, you probably won't make it thru dental school.
You are f*cking ******ed... u obviously did not understand my post...
 
Obviously a career does take a commitment, no matter what your profession is. I agree with you that time is precious, and that life is what you make of it.
What about the other facets of dentistry though? Such as the social, philanthropic aspect of it? Or just being in the health profession in general? You sound - don't take this the wrong way- like you wouldn't be pursuing dentistry purely for the title and money.
 
I think it's great that you're being honest.

Instead of knowing what you want to do, you're just moving backwards and elimating what you don't want to do, hoping that by being true to yourself in this manner you'll be able to find your true passion. Don't listen to anyone who criticizes you! This is your life. You can do anything you want to do and you've done so by studying for the DAT, shadowing, and trying to get a feel for dentistry. Too many people identify themselves with their profession and think that because they are good at it that's what they should do or because it is financially rewarding, it's worth putting in the time and sweat into it. You should be glad that you figured this out now before spending even more money on dental school or spending years of your life as a dentist to later realize it isn't what you want to do. I wish you all the best. I hope you find a career you enjoy 🙂
 
Okay....You are seriously stoned or drunk..one or the other! I've been in the dental field for 8 years and let me tell it's AWESOME!! Dude, don't give up..seriously. Get a loan for all the fees..I'm sure there are services that will help you. The DAT is not that bad...just study. Don't rush yourself for any of this...take it one step at a time. Honestly, I think you're great and sincere who would make an excellent Dentist. Now get your head out of your ass and get back to work(thinking). Oh...one more thing..lay off the beers and weed.. 😉 Celebrate in a couple of months after you studied.
 
You can take out loans for all the application expenses, I know people who have. Don't listen to all the dumb asses on this sight that try to make you out to be some evil son of a bitch just because you are in it for the money. People say money can't buy you happiness, but it sure puts a F*cking smile on my face (from the movie Boiler Room for you movie buffs). You say you want to go into bussiness? Do you have a passion for used cars, matresses, or electronics? I'm not saying dentistry is the same as selling used cars but I think this whole "passion" crap is way over rated. There is no way bussiness or law is better than dentistry. Study your ass off and rock that DAT. Add a couple schools to your application and change your attitude. I seriously don't think you will ever look back and regret a career in dentistry.
 
I think it's a mistake to take the DAT or apply half-heartedly. If you are going to take the DAT, go all out and try your very best to do well. If you don't want to do it, don't waste any more time or money on something you don't truly want. Doing badly would just be burning some bridges that later on in life you might regret.

The reason this thread caught my attention is because it reminds me of when I was applying to med school and had "cold feet". I seriously thought about switching to applying to dental school because it seemed to offer a better "lifestyle" than medicine...however, in the end, I concluded that money/lifestyle wasn't enough to sustain me through 4 years of hard work, and I needed to pursue something I truly felt a passion for (which in my case, was medicine).
Even though med school is not always much fun, it is tolerable because I'm pursuing my true dreams for something I really love and feel passionate about. Now more than ever, I'm convinced that it's important to try to find a line of work that you really love. You need to want it bad if you're going to stay motivated through all the long hours of studying.

If you're having serious doubts about dentistry, there's no need to rush into applying. For both med school and dental school, it's not very easy to just quit once the student loan debt starts piling up, so you're quickly locked into a point of no return. It might be best to give yourself some time to "live life" and work in the real world first before committing yourself to a certain career.
Good luck on figuring out your path.
 
golfmontpoker said:
You are f*cking ******ed... u obviously did not understand my post...

Take a deep breath man. If you need to take a year or two off to figure everything out thats totally cool. Especially since your DAT score is valid for 2-3 years. This has probably been brewing up for a while, but now that you've recognized some of your hesitation take some time and see if it isn't better than your other options. You might find that it is your best option in a world where you have to actually work. Or maybe you should be a scuba instructor, or golf pro or sherpa on mt. everest. There are so many more options than we sometimes think of. There are lots of people who help make the world spin round that are not doctors, lawyers, businessmen, dentists or fat-bottom girls. I sincerely hope you figure everything out. btw, I wouldn't recommend becoming a sherpa. Other than that the world is your oyster.

I wonder if you will travel your seas of possibilities only to find the pearl right where you began...

As for your response to nothen2do, I thought you didn't care if you got flamed. 🙄
 
golfmontpoker said:
Thats the thing... i DONT wanna try for the DAT. I dont think its worth it. You only live once, and to sacrifice one of the last summers you have to study just doesnt seem worth it. I want to live life... experiance different things, have FUN. Maybe I will grow up in the next couple years and experiance the real world, with an MBA or JD... But being an MBA and a DDS sounds good... Im willing to wait and have some fun on the way

Golfmont...it's a stressful process bud. I'm married and so I support myself, except I'm 4500 miles away from my closest family. I live in a city now where there are more people than my entire home state. I can't stand it. I volunteer, shadow, have a full time job, take classes, and until recently had to cram in time to study for the DAT. I was not one of those people that asked daddy straight out of college if I could not work this summer to study 8 hours a day for the DAT. I performed reasonably well on the DAT. SO YOU CAN DO IT! Dentistry is much more than just money. You're providing a service that EVERYONE needs. Having a beautiful smile restores confidence and can change a person's entire outlook on life. Think through it again...
 
Golfmont, I can't believe this behaviour! You were the poster boy for eager pre-dents before!
Look, everyone goes through a “mid-application crisis,” a time when you feel fed up with making transcript requests, meeting with profs for reference letters, feeling awkward and out of place in shadowing. Not to mention checking your mailbox and inbox 1000 times a day! Oh and as far as the DAT goes, yeah it is a pain in the behind to study for, but you just have to view it as part of your D-School curriculum.

With regards to money, you’ll make good money as a Dentist, and it’s a heck of a better job than anything in business or law. You think you feel awkward in a dental office? Try feeling awkward and out of place when you do your articling in a high-powered law firm, where you’ll be working 60 hours a week. Business you say? Real Estate? Unless you’re Donald Trump and you have millions to invest in large-scale development, you’ll likely be selling bungalows and townhouses for years before you get your shot at the big prize.

Dentistry provides good earnings with pretty good job security. Your skills will always be in demand, you’ll be a well-respected health care professional, a leader in your community! And when eager predents come to your office and ask you if they can shadow, you can make it the best experience they’ve ever had!
 
golfmontpoker said:
I dont care if adcoms see my pic... really dont. I will tell the truth during an interview if i get one. I have already spent a large amount of money on DAT material. Being a smart person when it comes to finances, im still going to take it. I have invested the money therefore im going to go through with it. Since I have spent some money, im going to go through with it. Im applying to 2 schools, and if i get accepted... i will go, just for the money...



First of all, if you are going to tell the truth at an interview that "you are only in this field for the money and title and nothing else" dont even bother going to one because you're interview will be terminated instantly. So hence you would have wasted more money and time by applying to those 2 schools and going there to open your ******* mouth to utter said statement. This also proves you're not smart at finances.
Then you say if you apply and get accepted you will go just for the money despite that rant you made in your original post about how if you're in it for just the money then quit now.
Let me ask you something, what were you doing until this point in time. You're a freaking upper class student. Were you in a coma before you had such a mind boggling epiphany? Students usually are pretty set in what they want to pursue and know what it takes by the end of sophmore year. You are a complete jackass for having said what you have on this thread.

The main point of my rant is this: IF YOU ARE IN IT JUST FOR THE MONEY, DONT DO IT! LET THE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT REALLY WANT IT GET IT!

i think you should start worrying more about yourself than other people
 
Notoriousjae said:
Students usually are pretty set in what they want to pursue and know what it takes by the end of sophmore year. You are a complete jackass for having said what you have on this thread.

For what it's worth, I didn't decide to pursue dentistry until my senior year. I only wish I was granted the luxury of knowing from a young age what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. But you're right, his post didn't seem to make a lot of sense to me either...sounded like something a few beers or quite a few beers might do to an already stressed out candidate. :laugh:
 
I agree with the posts that say to either apply whole-heartedly or not at all. That being said, don't take on more than you can handle. You don't have to study 8 hours a day for two months to do well on the DAT. You don't have to shadow 8 hours at a time. Take a week off from studying. Re-evaluate where you want to go in life. I studied for the DAT for about 2 months but never more than 5 days a week and some weeks only 2 days a week and still did well, 22/22/22. And as for shadowing, it is boring... really boring. I started off trying to do whole days, then backed down to half days, and eventually just shadowed 1 to 2 hours at a time during procedures I hadn't seen before.

If you just go thru the motions, you won't get it. So if you don't want the prize, save yourself the money and wait a year or two. Remember you have a lot of life to live, you're only in your early 20's, right? Just because you decide not to apply this year doesn't mean you can't apply in a year or two.

Ok, now I'm just rambling. But my last words of wisdom...Let's say you do what you say and cram for the DAT and apply to two schools...You'll probably score 17-19 in all the sections which might get you an interview, but probably won't get you accepted. And the last thing you want is to think back to the time you tried to get into dental school but failed. Not because you didn't have what it takes, but because you didn't try.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do. It's always easier to quit, but to succeed in life you must persevere.
 
What a waste of bandwidth.

Let me contribute:

Being the economically sound person you are you are deciding to apply anyway, but you will try to blow all chances by telling the two schools you want to get into that you have no desire to be a dentist. Besides that being a dikfor move you call people f_____rs and then tell them they missed the whole point of your post? What was the point? You had a life changing moment because your credit card can't handle 3K and you suck at studying dedicated for a couple of months? Whats not to understand?

I understood that you are immature and don't want to work for anything, but you want to makes lots of money. "Hey I know! I will apply to dental school"

You mentioned that this board is a great online community. It will get better when you leave.
 
For what it's worth, I didn't decide to pursue dentistry until my senior year. I only wish I was granted the luxury of knowing from a young age what I wanted to do for the rest of my life.

KOM,
Even if you started out late, you seem to be doing a stellar job at it right now. 😀 keep it up 👍
 
ObviousGuy said:
What a waste of bandwidth.

Let me contribute:

Being the economically sound person you are you are deciding to apply anyway, but you will try to blow all chances by telling the two schools you want to get into that you have no desire to be a dentist. Besides that being a dikfor move you call people f_____rs and then tell them they missed the whole point of your post? What was the point? You had a life changing moment because your credit card can't handle 3K and you suck at studying dedicated for a couple of months? Whats not to understand?

I understood that you are immature and don't want to work for anything, but you want to makes lots of money. "Hey I know! I will apply to dental school"

You mentioned that this board is a great online community. It will get better when you leave.



LOL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I couldnt have put it better
 
hey golf, i gotta' admit that it takes some big balls to own up to the fact that you're just in this for the money. and it takes some big balls to admit that you don't know what you want to do in life. i had the chance to live in thailand for two years after my freshman year and it gave me lots of time to figure some things out so when i got back i knew what i was going to do next. maybe some time off and back out in the real world would do you good. i only have a few things that i want you to keep in mind...
1) shadowing is horrible (most of the time). until the dentist i shadowed had enough confidence in me to let me assist a little, i hated shadowing. i loved the procedures, the patients, etc but i hated standing around, being in the way
2) if you do anything worthwhile in life (the DAT) it's going to be difficult. so when you take on things like the DAT in life put your whole heart into or don't do it at all. you'll never regret doing your best and failing. but you'll regret that you didn't do your best and screwed yourself. take a break, reschedule the DAT and take some of the pressure off yourself.
3) alot of people get into dentistry b/c of the money and then find out that it is a very fulfilling career that is a great asset to a community that needs it. keep looking into the field and talking to people and maybe you'll develop a true love for it (maybe not a passion, but a sincere respect).

i think more than anything you just need a break from all the stress right now. this is the most annoying part of being a pre-dent cuz w/ the DAT breathing down your neck and applications going in it's all a hassle and no fun. just chill for a while and come back to it when you're ready.
 
HEY, I have read a bunch of your posts too. You always tried to help and be nice to everyone.
I was sad when I first read your post, but I guess I understand your frustration if you are not extremely into dentistry after putting all your effort.

Yes, shadowing is definetely awkward, and you don't really know what to do sometimes...but that's part of the process..and most people have felt the same..

Just take a deep breath once again.. but truly feel glad you've been honest with yourself because this sometimes can make you see things more clear in your way..Who knows if you can then become something else where you find yourself happier, and still make money and have a respected position?!
Sure dentistry seems attractive to many and go in for the wrong reasons, but it is not the only way...
 
I personally am tired of starring at the Avatar.
 
predents make me laugh -- what a train wreck :laugh:

😴
 
maksidaa said:
hey golf, i gotta' admit that it takes some big balls to own up to the fact that you're just in this for the money. and it takes some big balls to admit that you don't know what you want to do in life. i had the chance to live in thailand for two years after my freshman year and it gave me lots of time to figure some things out so when i got back i knew what i was going to do next. maybe some time off and back out in the real world would do you good. i only have a few things that i want you to keep in mind...
1) shadowing is horrible (most of the time). until the dentist i shadowed had enough confidence in me to let me assist a little, i hated shadowing. i loved the procedures, the patients, etc but i hated standing around, being in the way
2) if you do anything worthwhile in life (the DAT) it's going to be difficult. so when you take on things like the DAT in life put your whole heart into or don't do it at all. you'll never regret doing your best and failing. but you'll regret that you didn't do your best and screwed yourself. take a break, reschedule the DAT and take some of the pressure off yourself.
3) alot of people get into dentistry b/c of the money and then find out that it is a very fulfilling career that is a great asset to a community that needs it. keep looking into the field and talking to people and maybe you'll develop a true love for it (maybe not a passion, but a sincere respect).

i think more than anything you just need a break from all the stress right now. this is the most annoying part of being a pre-dent cuz w/ the DAT breathing down your neck and applications going in it's all a hassle and no fun. just chill for a while and come back to it when you're ready.
That's some good advice. 👍
 
golf what's up with this man? Maybe you're confused or frusturated right now, what with the DAT and everything, but don't make such a desicion when you're so stressed out! Maybe just take a day off of studying and relax your mind. then come back to it. I know I slipped into a minor depression a little while ago from all this predent madness, and in fact did consider just not applying this year. Just step out for a little bit, and come back with a clear head.
Just don't give up just yet!
 
I once felt the same way after suffering through a tough semester of working full time and taking prereqs at night. I think it happens to a lot of people. I took a semester off to think about things and ended up coming out of it more sure than ever that I wanted to be a dentist.
 
Dutchboy said:
You can take out loans for all the application expenses, I know people who have. Don't listen to all the dumb asses on this sight that try to make you out to be some evil son of a bitch just because you are in it for the money. People say money can't buy you happiness, but it sure puts a F*cking smile on my face (from the movie Boiler Room for you movie buffs). You say you want to go into bussiness? Do you have a passion for used cars, matresses, or electronics? I'm not saying dentistry is the same as selling used cars but I think this whole "passion" crap is way over rated. There is no way bussiness or law is better than dentistry. Study your ass off and rock that DAT. Add a couple schools to your application and change your attitude. I seriously don't think you will ever look back and regret a career in dentistry.

Ditto and a half.

To the OP:
What will you do now? Are you going to take a few years to "find yourself"? Thats hogwash, noone ever finds themselves. I know of plenty of people who go to europe for 6 months, get corporate job, or just vacation somewhere to make sure they want to go into medicine (healthcare in general). All of them never change their mind, Why? They really cant find themselves doing something else.

Passion can come later on. Its just like shadowing, you gain dedication and interest in dentistry once shadowing a dentist. TAKE A LEAP OF FAITH, and GO TO DENTAL SCHOOL.

Real estate brokers, developers are dying....
Doctors are melting....
Corporate jobs, bureacracy just plain out suck....

After you graduate, no matter what you do in life, a job is a job. WHAT DEFINES YOU IS WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR LEISURE TIME! Most people tolerate their job, not like it. There have been many surveys on it, search google.

Sure, you can listen to other people who tell you to get out bc your in it for the money and they will also tell you that you will be miserable for the rest of your life bc you dont like cavities, but thats not true. Work is work.

Everyone, no matter who you are, chooses their career bc the money is good. Who willing chooses to work for minimum wage. Everyone wants a raise from their boss, NO ONE WILL TURN DOWN A SALARY increase.

CONCLUSION: Everyone is partially in it for the money. It may not be the number one factor, but its atleast 3rd on a list. This is not limited to dentistry, but every field.

TO the OP: GO to dschool, make some money, find a hobby, wife, tune up car, and enjoy life. You set your own hours so you set how much time you can concentrate on golf or your car.
 
golfmontpoker said:
Hey all... Would just like to tell everyone that this is one of the greatest communities online, everyone actually cares about eachother and truly gives good advice. Anways, I have been truly thinking the past couple days about why I want to pursue dentistry, and you know what? I really cant think of a reason other then running my own business and making REALLLY good $$$... THATS IT! I can do that doing MANY MANY MANY other things... Like law school or business school.
For all the folks out there that are truly in it just for the money, withdraw. Let the people that really want to pursue dentistry do it. If you want money, do somthing else. PERIOD! I have came to this conclusion, i truly want the money and title, and nothing else... This might sound greedy, un-empathetic, and pure out A$$HOLE, but u know what? I truly dont think this is my calling. So you people out there that just want the money, give the people that want this a better chance. Go get your MBA, JD, or go into realestate or somthing...
I lack the motivation, dedication, and basically the heart to pursue dentistry... I cant stand shadowing, i hate studying for the f*cking DAT, and when it comes down to it, i LACK the financial resources for all the application fees and the traveling expenses it would take for interviews. I must consider the financial constraints... Its not realistic for my circumstances.
Im still going to apply for the 2007 cycle, but im going to only apply to NYU and BU... as for the DAT? Im going to cram for 2 weeks before the test and take it... see what happens. I might score sh*tty, i might score really well. I honestly dont care. It will be a good life experiance any way i look at it.
Flame me if you want, because i honestly dont give a rats @ss... The main point of my rant is this: IF YOU ARE IN IT JUST FOR THE MONEY, DONT DO IT! LET THE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT REALLY WANT IT GET IT!

what are you trying to do? sound really grand and noble? telling people to withdraw if they're just in it for the money? i don't think that's a suggestion for you to make. we are all motivated by different things in our lives. some people think money is so important that they would do ANYTHING (even if they hate it) to attain the money; some people look at money as far less important and prefer to do something they really enjoy (perhaps an art-related job that may not generate a whole lot of income). bottom line: if someone is motivated PURELY by money and are going for dentistry, i don't see a problem with that. that's their right. you may think that he won't be a good dentist because he doesn't even like the job. but at the same time, maybe he will because he likes money so much, and knows that if he doesn't do a good job, he'll have zero patients, and hence zero money. you may also think that he's not worthy of getting into dental school because he's not passionate about the job, and he could possibly be taking the seat of someone who IS passionate about it. but the reality is, the fittest wins. passion can only get you so far, and if you're incompetent, you likewise don't deserve to get in.
 
HE needed attention and he got it. What attention *****... :laugh:
 
Thanks for all the advice and support everyone! Really do appreciate it. I was a little drunk last night... thats probably why i sounded a little incoherant. Anyways, it was the truth. A lot of you folks are right. Dentistry is a great career, but requires alot of hard work along the way. I dont think im truly mature enough right now in my life to apply this cycle. Next year? Its a strong possibility... I need to get my bearings straight, make straight As next year, and spread the DAT study over 6 months, lightly. While im taking the year off, I will work in the real world while getting an MBA or MPH part time. Now that im not drunk :laugh: I have re-evaluated my situation. In all honestly, i truly do not think im ready to apply for this cycle... next cycle will be a lot more realistic proposition.

I have always wanted to hike the entire Appalachian trail from Maine down to GA... Maybe ill do this during my year off and have some real serious time to think... Or i might try out for the Nationwide tour or somthing, i love golf and am damn good at it. But I do believe i can enjoy dentistry, even if im in it for the money. Some of you guys are right that its probably somthing you end up coming to love.

Thanks everyone!
 
hockeydentist said:
HE needed attention and he got it. What attention *****... :laugh:

Haha, truthfully, I feel like Im taking crazy pills with this guy. He says "IF YOU ARE IN IT JUST FOR THE MONEY, DONT DO IT! LET THE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT REALLY WANT IT GET IT!" Thats why he said he's wants dentistry, just for the money and title, yet he's still going to take the DAT and apply to 2 schools. Hyprocritical much?
 
golfmontpoker said:
I have always wanted to hike the entire Appalachian trail from Maine down to GA... Maybe ill do this during my year off and have some real serious time to think... Or i might try out for the Nationwide tour or somthing, i love golf and am damn good at it.


Umm, where would you get the $$$$ for one of these dreams of yours? I have to respectfully say that I think you're being totally arse-backward about all this. What you say is very much a contradiction, and I have a feeling that in a couple of months you'll be kicking yourself. I really hope that you find the path in life that is right for you, and soon. Just make sure you're honest with yourself. Drown out all the pressures and voices of everyone around you and ask yourself: "what do I really want?". I think you'll know the answer in light of some soul-searching. Good day.
 
In the meantime, TRUST ME, REMOVE YOUR PIC FROM YOUR AVATAR. you'll thank me later.
 
golfmontpoker said:
I have always wanted to hike the entire Appalachian trail from Maine down to GA...

Thanks everyone!

NoBo 2005!!
 
you get drunk and come on the SDN forum? cuz ya know when i'm drinking its usually at a party and not in front of my computer by my lonesome :laugh:
 
golfmont, im sorry to hear that you are leaving this field, or thinking about it. but your mistake was coming on this forum and letting people know your true feelings. some good posts and bad.

but listening to all these stumps try and tear you apart for a decision is the last thing you need. leave SDN with your last thoughts. good luck with everything buddy. 👍
 
golfmontpoker said:
Thanks for all the advice and support everyone! Really do appreciate it. I was a little drunk last night... thats probably why i sounded a little incoherant. Anyways, it was the truth. A lot of you folks are right. Dentistry is a great career, but requires alot of hard work along the way. I dont think im truly mature enough right now in my life to apply this cycle. Next year? Its a strong possibility... I need to get my bearings straight, make straight As next year, and spread the DAT study over 6 months, lightly. While im taking the year off, I will work in the real world while getting an MBA or MPH part time. Now that im not drunk :laugh: I have re-evaluated my situation. In all honestly, i truly do not think im ready to apply for this cycle... next cycle will be a lot more realistic proposition.

I have always wanted to hike the entire Appalachian trail from Maine down to GA... Maybe ill do this during my year off and have some real serious time to think... Or i might try out for the Nationwide tour or somthing, i love golf and am damn good at it. But I do believe i can enjoy dentistry, even if im in it for the money. Some of you guys are right that its probably somthing you end up coming to love.

Thanks everyone!
I knew it!! Hope you didn't have to bad of a hangover....cheers!
 
Notoriousjae said:
you get drunk and come on the SDN forum? cuz ya know when i'm drinking its usually at a party and not in front of my computer by my lonesome :laugh:

Who knows... stress causes people to do some ******ed things :laugh:
 
prez_al said:
Who knows... stress causes people to do some ******ed things :laugh:
:laugh: Isnt that the truth! I just came home from downtown Asheville and wasnt in the right mind frame really... Just confused right now, thats all. Like a lot of u stated, it happens
 
golfmontpoker said:
:laugh: Isnt that the truth! I just came home from downtown Asheville and wasnt in the right mind frame really... Just confused right now, thats all. Like a lot of u stated, it happens

Golf man I think you are a great guy. Some of these posters are not really reading what you are saying, and are just voicing opinions. Don't worry about them. YOU SHOULD NEVER DO SOMETHING JUST FOR MONEY OR BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WANTS YOU TO. So with that said, I think it is great that you are taking the time to decide what you really want in life.

To many people are pursuing dentistry for the wrong reasons. Most of them are to green to know any better. It sounds like you are making a very mature decision. Best of luck to you in whatever you decide to do. Your honesty will take you a long way in life.
 
golfmontpoker said:
:laugh: Isnt that the truth! I just came home from downtown Asheville and wasnt in the right mind frame really... Just confused right now, thats all. Like a lot of u stated, it happens

is that a reindeer in the avatar????
 
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