Confused on the "1/3" BR passages to do (from SN2ed's schedule)

[axon11]

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Hi, I recently received my set of TBR books in the mail and I am having a bit of a difficulty understanding the SN2ed schedule, just the part where we are suppose to do certain passages from the books.

So this is the DAY 1 schedule:

Day 1: BR Physics Chapter #1 + Every third practice passage of the corresponding practice passages for this chapter (i.e. go through 1, 4, 7, 10 for first 1/3 and 2, 5, 8 for the second 1/3 on Day 8). 1/3 of corresponding practice passages = 1/3 from now on. Also, complete every 1/3 of the discretes each time you work through 1/3 of the passages. In other words, when you take practice passages #1, 4, 7, 10, take discrete # 1, 4, 7, 10, 13, 16, etc.

I have the new October 2010 version of the Physics I (sections I-V) book and each chapter comes with Review questions on page 35 (3 passages) and a practice exam on page 45 (7 passages). My question is, do I just combine the 3 + 7 questions and follow the "do 1,4,7,10 for first 1/3 and 2,5,8 for the second 1/3 on day 8" or is the schedule pertaining to a different version of the book which just has just one practice exam with 10 passages. Because this 2010 version has split the passages, 3 in the review questions on page 35 and 7 in the practice exam on page 45. Also, what exactly are discretes?

Any input is appreciated, thanks 🙂 Right now I'm just trying to understand and will also copy this whole schedule to microsoft excel so I can print it and stick it on my wall and keep track of things I do on each day.

 

[411309]

still just do 1/3. The first passage, fourth, seventh, etc.

 

[Erythropoietin]

I didn't have the schedule for phases but I just split them up by myself...so I just said first 3 passages would be phase I, the next three would be phase II etc...
I know this is not how it's supposed to be but the passages get harder anyways.

 

[MedPR]

Hi, I recently received my set of TBR books in the mail and I am having a bit of a difficulty understanding the SN2ed schedule, just the part where we are suppose to do certain passages from the books.



I have the new October 2010 version of the Physics I (sections I-V) book and each chapter comes with Review questions on page 35 (3 passages) and a practice exam on page 45 (7 passages). My question is, do I just combine the 3 + 7 questions and follow the "do 1,4,7,10 for first 1/3 and 2,5,8 for the second 1/3 on day 8" or is the schedule pertaining to a different version of the book which just has just one practice exam with 10 passages. Because this 2010 version has split the passages, 3 in the review questions on page 35 and 7 in the practice exam on page 45. Also, what exactly are discretes?

Any input is appreciated, thanks 🙂 Right now I'm just trying to understand and will also copy this whole schedule to microsoft excel so I can print it and stick it on my wall and keep track of things I do on each day.

Bump. I'm really confused about this too. SN2ed to the rescue?

 

[MedPR]

BR Physics Chapter 1 is setup like this.

Content, then THREE passages containing "Review Questions" then SEVEN more passages as a "Practice Exam"

So do we just count these continuously as 10 passages and don't bother doing the "Practice Exam" all at once?

So for day 1, do Review passage #1, Exam Passage #1, #4, and #7?

Then on Day 8 do Review passage #2, Exam passage #2, and #5?

The practice exams have a Raw score -> MCAT Score table at the beginning, is there a reason why we are dividing up the practice exam?

 

[SN2ed]

You combine the review and practice exam questions for a total of 10 passages.

Updated schedule with this:

Day 1: BR Physics Chapter #1 + Every third practice passage of all the corresponding practice passages for this chapter (i.e. combine both the review and practice exam passages for a total of 10 passages and go through 1, 4, 7, 10 for first 1/3 and 2, 5, 8 for the second 1/3 on Day 8). 1/3 of corresponding practice passages = 1/3 from now on. Also, complete every 1/3 of the discretes each time you work through 1/3 of the passages. In other words, when you take practice passages #1, 4, 7, 10, take discrete # 1, 4, 7, 10, 13, 16, etc. If you have an older version that does NOT have discretes, don't worry about it.

 

[MedPR]

You combine the review and practice exam questions for a total of 10 passages.

Updated schedule with this:

Day 1: BR Physics Chapter #1 + Every third practice passage of all the corresponding practice passages for this chapter (i.e. combine both the review and practice exam passages for a total of 10 passages and go through 1, 4, 7, 10 for first 1/3 and 2, 5, 8 for the second 1/3 on Day 8). 1/3 of corresponding practice passages = 1/3 from now on. Also, complete every 1/3 of the discretes each time you work through 1/3 of the passages. In other words, when you take practice passages #1, 4, 7, 10, take discrete # 1, 4, 7, 10, 13, 16, etc. If you have an older version that does NOT have discretes, don't worry about it.

Ok, thanks that makes sense. However, I have the newest BR version and I don't see any discretes.. Are they not found in the chapter, but somewhere else in the book?

 

[SN2ed]

Ok, thanks that makes sense. However, I have the newest BR version and I don't see any discretes.. Are they not found in the chapter, but somewhere else in the book?

Some have them, some don't. I forgot which versions, but like it says, if you don't have them, don't worry about it.

 

[MedPR]

Some have them, some don't. I forgot which versions, but like it says, if you don't have them, don't worry about it.

Are the discretes just the example problems in each section?

 

[Camy99]

Well don't I feel stupid. I've been doing NUMBERS 1,4,7..... >.<
I'll do it the other way once I start Ch2s.

 

[SN2ed]

Well don't I feel stupid. I've been doing NUMBERS 1,4,7..... >.<
I'll do it the other way once I start Ch2s.

No, that's my fault. I'm still debating on how I want to split this up. I might update my schedule to take the review passages on the day you read the chapter, then split up the practice exam. Since I don't have access to any BR books, can someone check to see if the other BR books also have 3 or so review passages per chapter and an accompanying practice exam section?

I'm currently updating my schedule.

 

[MedPR]

No, that's my fault. I'm still debating on how I want to split this up. I might update my schedule to take the review passages on the day you read the chapter, then split up the practice exam. Since I don't have access to any BR books, can someone check to see if the other BR books also have 3 or so review passages per chapter and an accompanying practice exam section?

I'm currently updating my schedule.

I finished Gen Chem chapter 1 today and there was no "practice exam" I believe there were 9 practice passages, and I know for sure that they were all grouped together. I guess not every chapter in every subject is setup the same. If that's the case, I think it would be better to just group all "passages at the end of each chapter" together and keep the first, second, and third 1/3 as you currently have it in your schedule.

I have the Organic 1 book with me, but I won't get a chance to look at it until my lunch break.

Can you verify that the "Sample Problem"s in BR are the "discretes" in your schedule? They have the answer and explanation directly below them.

Also, the relationship/work load between day 6 and day 8 seems a little out of balance. Obviously we can do whatever we want in terms of how we want to follow, or not follow, your schedule, but is there a reason you assigned so much to day 6 and so little to day 8 (both seem to be review days)? What I mean is, is there an advantage to grouping rereading+EK 1001 discretes + EK exam together as well as the 2nd 1/3 of passages together rather than a different combination of those 4 tasks?

In a nut-shell, Day 6 (and all days like day 6) are: reread 5 chapters, do corresponding EK 1001 (I haven't gotten this far yet, so I don't know how many problems that is) and do EK bio exam.

All you have scheduled on day 8 is the second 1/3 of passages.

Am I underestimating how long it takes to do the second 3rd of all passages?

 

[MedPR]

TBR Passages.

GCHEM 1: 12 Study Passages, no Exam
OCHEM 1: 13 Study Passages, no Exam
GCHEM 2: 14 Study Pasages, no Exam
OCHEM 2: 14 Study Passages, no Exam.

Too lazy to look further into the book. Maybe Physics is the only one with practice + exam?

 

[SN2ed]

TBR Passages.

GCHEM 1: 12 Study Passages, no Exam
OCHEM 1: 13 Study Passages, no Exam
GCHEM 2: 14 Study Pasages, no Exam
OCHEM 2: 14 Study Passages, no Exam.

Too lazy to look further into the book. Maybe Physics is the only one with practice + exam?

Yeah looks like it. Thanks for the help.

 

[bob38443]

I noticed that day 8 in the 3 month schedule includes completing the second 1/3 of the BR passages, but I couldn't find a day where the third 1/3 are to be completed. Is this intentionally omitted or am I reading this wrong?

 

[MedPR]

I noticed that day 8 in the 3 month schedule includes completing the second 1/3 of the BR passages, but I couldn't find a day where the third 1/3 are to be completed. Is this intentionally omitted or am I reading this wrong?

The last 3rd are completed when you are reviewing your FLs towards the end of the schedule.

 

[BurntFlower]

Bump. I'm really confused about this too. SN2ed to the rescue?

Same here...even after reading his explanation. Maybe it'll become clearer when it's not 3 in the morrning. 😳

 

[MedPR]

Same here...even after reading his explanation. Maybe it'll become clearer when it's not 3 in the morrning. 😳

Just count all of the passages in the chapter as a group. So if there are three "practice" passages and 10 "practice exam" practices, you have 13 passages. Do 1, 4, 7, 10, 13 on the first day, and then 2, 5, 8, 11 on the day when you're supposed to do the 2nd 3rd. Then 3, 6, 9, 12 on the day scheduled for the last 3rd.

 

[SN2ed]

I was thinking about this some more and I just realized a simpler way of sorting this out.

If you have the version with both "Review" passages and a practice exam, take 1/3 from the Review Passages and 1/3 from the Practice Exam.

For instance:

Review Passages #1, 2, 3
Practice Exam Passages #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

First 1/3: Review Passage #1; Practice Exam Passage: #1, 4, 7
Second 1/3: Review Passage #2; Practice Exam Passage: #2, 5
Final 1/3: Review Passage #3; Practice Exam Passage: #3, 6

If your version doesn't have this, don't worry about it. Again, if you don't have discretes or both a set of review passages and a practice exam, don't worry about it. Not all versions have this change.

 

[ridethecliche]

I look at what you're saying and see what you're trying to do, but I think that TBR intends you to do the practice exam questions right after reading because they're mostly conceptual and cover everything you've done so far.

It might make sense to do just the practice exam questions right after, then split up the remaining ones for the next time around.

Just my $.02. You don't have to take it. I don't mind 🙂

 

[MedPR]

I was thinking about this some more and I just realized a simpler way of sorting this out.

If you have the version with both "Review" passages and a practice exam, take 1/3 from the Review Passages and 1/3 from the Practice Exam.

For instance:

Review Passages #1, 2, 3
Practice Exam Passages #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

First 1/3: Review Passage #1; Practice Exam Passage: #1, 4, 7
Second 1/3: Review Passage #2; Practice Exam Passage: #2, 5
Final 1/3: Review Passage #3; Practice Exam Passage: #3, 6

If your version doesn't have this, don't worry about it. Again, if you don't have discretes or both a set of review passages and a practice exam, don't worry about it. Not all versions have this change.

That's a good way to word it (and that's what I've been doing). Physics seems to be the only one with review passages separated from practice exam passages, so the other books shouldn't be too confusing.

 

[SN2ed]

I look at what you're saying and see what you're trying to do, but I think that TBR intends you to do the practice exam questions right after reading because they're mostly conceptual and cover everything you've done so far.

It might make sense to do just the practice exam questions right after, then split up the remaining ones for the next time around.

Just my $.02. You don't have to take it. I don't mind 🙂

Yeah I'm still debating on whether it's better to take the review passages the day you read and take half of the practice exam the other days. I'm actually starting to lean more towards this than splitting it up into thirds.

Also, I'm guessing you mean to take the 3 review passages right after reading and not the 7 passage practice exam.

 

[MedPR]

I look at what you're saying and see what you're trying to do, but I think that TBR intends you to do the practice exam questions right after reading because they're mostly conceptual and cover everything you've done so far.

It might make sense to do just the practice exam questions right after, then split up the remaining ones for the next time around.

Just my $.02. You don't have to take it. I don't mind 🙂

Yeah I'm still debating on whether it's better to take the review passages the day you read and take half of the practice exam the other days. I'm actually starting to lean more towards this than splitting it up into thirds.

Also, I'm guessing you mean to take the 3 review passages right after reading and not the 7 passage practice exam.

I'm not too familiar with TBR 3 phases, but I think SN2ed's method is closer to it than doing to review passages together and then splitting up the exam passages.

 

[ridethecliche]

Yeah I'm still debating on whether it's better to take the review passages the day you read and take half of the practice exam the other days. I'm actually starting to lean more towards this than splitting it up into thirds.

Also, I'm guessing you mean to take the 3 review passages right after reading and not the 7 passage practice exam.

A-Yup!

That's how I've been doing it anywho.

 

[Spackler]

Can someone please definitively explain what discretes are? Also, are review passages described as Example problems in the BR text or are example problems the discretes?

Do all version of TBR have example problems interspersed in the text?

 

[mashya]

anyone else get the feeling the first 3 content review passages after the new physics book's chapter are harder than the book's practice passages?

 

[MedPR]

anyone else get the feeling the first 3 content review passages after the new physics book's chapter are harder than the book's practice passages?

I think they're supposed to be harder, since you just read the material. I take it as an opportunity to help the info sink in and for me to understand it as deeply as possible.

I've been following TBR's suggestions on which passages to do first because I assume their Phase 1 passages are ones that cover everything you just read. Whereas SN2ed's first 1/3 are just the first 1/3 and you might end up doing 2 passages on the same concept and not doing any on another concept until you do the second 1/3 or the third 1/3. Nothing against SN2ed though, I'm using every other aspect of his schedule 🙂

 

[SN2ed]

I think they're supposed to be harder, since you just read the material. I take it as an opportunity to help the info sink in and for me to understand it as deeply as possible.

I've been following TBR's suggestions on which passages to do first because I assume their Phase 1 passages are ones that cover everything you just read. Whereas SN2ed's first 1/3 are just the first 1/3 and you might end up doing 2 passages on the same concept and not doing any on another concept until you do the second 1/3 or the third 1/3. Nothing against SN2ed though, I'm using every other aspect of his schedule 🙂

Each 1/3 should have the full range of concepts from the chapter; however, this might have changed with the new editions. In other words, you shouldn't have multiple passages covering the same topic when you take a 1/3.

 

[growingpains]

Each 1/3 should have the full range of concepts from the chapter; however, this might have changed with the new editions. In other words, you shouldn't have multiple passages covering the same topic when you take a 1/3.

Which editions did you use when preparing your schedule?

 

[Lunasly]

I start studying for the MCAT in a few days and wanted to know if there was an update on this topic. Should we follow SN2ed schedule or follow the BR schedule?

I'm confused 🙁 I assume that if we follow the BR schedule, then what will end up happening is that we will be reviewing the material in a linear fashion, and by the time the test comes around I would have forgotten the material is covered in the beginning.

Any suggestions?

 

[Lunasly]

Does anyone have any information, please?

 

[SH3]

I start studying for the MCAT in a few days and wanted to know if there was an update on this topic. Should we follow SN2ed schedule or follow the BR schedule?

I'm confused 🙁 I assume that if we follow the BR schedule, then what will end up happening is that we will be reviewing the material in a linear fashion, and by the time the test comes around I would have forgotten the material is covered in the beginning.

Any suggestions?

Follow the Schedule set up by SN2ed where you combine the Review and Practice Passages. For example, the first 1/3 of physics will be Review Passage 1 plus the first and last discrete as well as every third from the Practice passages and discrete sections. In my 2012 TBR books there are Passages and Discretes within each set of Review Passages and Practice Passages for Physics and only Practice Passages and Discretes for the other sections.

 

[Lunasly]

Thank you very much. 🙂

 

[BerkReviewTeach]

I start studying for the MCAT in a few days and wanted to know if there was an update on this topic. Should we follow SN2ed schedule or follow the BR schedule?

I'm confused 🙁 I assume that if we follow the BR schedule, then what will end up happening is that we will be reviewing the material in a linear fashion, and by the time the test comes around I would have forgotten the material is covered in the beginning.

Any suggestions?

To reduce the risk of deteriorating memory over time, the passages of one chapter often times have a couple questions from other sections. As you progress through the books, you should notice more mixed-subject passages and more WTH passages.

 

[SH3]

Thank you very much. 🙂

np 😀