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Exciting to see the next generation of pain fellows and graduates stepping up into leadership roles in our specialty societies!

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If he's Vice President of Communications of Social Media, who's President?
 
Is ASPN something new? Is it because of the other pain society filing for bankruptcy? Feels like there’s a back story somewhere.
 
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When you truly know that back story...and you find out who is profiting from the new companies ...and once you connect the dots ...you get to sit back laugh and realize why people call pain medicine one of the scummiest professions out there.
 
Paingas said:
When you truly know that back story...and you find out who is profiting from the new companies ...and once you connect the dots ...you get to sit back laugh and realize why people call pain medicine one of the scummiest professions out there.
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Why so cryptic?
 
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Jigsaw said:
This form is starting to sound like Fox News, unfounded negative assumptions based on a personal opinion.
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Check out the link to the leadership posted above. More industry owned ****** than anything. Some good docs, but the money flowing through these guys makes taking anything they say as a paid advertisement.

Take it from a former *****...2007-14
 
I'm just wondering is this new society necessary? What void does it fill?
 
DOctorJay said:
I'm just wondering is this new society necessary? What void does it fill?
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I think that there's a sense that the older pain societies have fossilized and not been effective at advocating for more sustainable reimbursement, etc. There's not a been good mentorship and a pipeline for the kind of advocacy the field needs---look at the CDC debacle, the rise of pain GIGO meta-analysis, etc. The SISsies and SIPP'ers haven't moved the needle and delivered what's needed in the interest of pain patients.
 
drusso said:
I think that there's a sense that the older pain societies have fossilized and not been effective at advocating for more sustainable reimbursement, etc. There's not a been good mentorship and a pipeline for the kind of advocacy the field needs---look at the CDC debacle, the rise of pain GIGO meta-analysis, etc. The SISsies and SIPP'ers haven't moved the needle and delivered what's needed in the interest of pain patients.
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You mean that they have not pushed the Regenexx agenda?
 
lobelsteve said:
Check out the link to the leadership posted above. More industry owned ****** than anything. Some good docs, but the money flowing through these guys makes taking anything they say as a paid advertisement.

Take it from a former *****...2007-14
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Did you come down with an STD? What happened? Nice couple years with neurotherm?
 
lonelobo said:
no ...do they have have actual position statements on Stem cells
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The SIPP'ers do--actual guidelines in fact. The SISsies haven't published anything yet.

Regenerative Medicine Guidelines - American Society of Interventional Pain Physicians

Regenerative Medicine Guidelines Responsible, Safe, and Effective Use of Biologics in the Management of Low Back Pain: American Society of Interventional Pain Physicians (ASIPP) Guidelines Pain physician 2019; 2019;22;S1-S74. Year … Regenerative Medicine Guidelines Read More »
www.asipp.org www.asipp.org
 
Paingas said:
When you truly know that back story...and you find out who is profiting from the new companies ...and once you connect the dots ...you get to sit back laugh and realize why people call pain medicine one of the scummiest professions out there.
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The main goal of working in conjunction with industry is for field preservation:
Sdn posts - fun but meaningless -
Pubmed articles, best practices, continuing education, and innovation - meaningful.
Other societies have become complacent and put up barriers to entry. Aspn is the opposite of that.
 
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Needlejockeys said:
The main goal of working in conjunction with industry is for field preservation:
Sdn posts - meaningless -
Pubmed articles, best practices, continuing education, and innovation - meaningful.
Other societies have become complacent and put up barriers to entry. Aspn is the opposite of that.
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TIMOTHY DEER
Listed Specialty: Pain Medicine
400 COURT ST STE 100, CHARLESTON, WV, 25301-1652
Payments: At a Glance
855
PAYMENTS
$1,919,333
PAYMENT TOTAL
15
COMPANIES PAID THIS DOCTOR

Types of Payments
CATEGORYPAYMENTSPAYMENT VALUE
PROMOTIONAL SPEAKING/OTHER148$1.56M
CONSULTING182$266K
TRAVEL AND LODGING84$72,428
FOOD AND BEVERAGE438$21,742
ENTERTAINMENT1$118
EDUCATION2$55
 
Needlejockeys said:
The main goal of working in conjunction with industry is for field preservation:
Sdn posts - meaningless -
Pubmed articles, best practices, continuing education, and innovation - meaningful.
Other societies have become complacent and put up barriers to entry. Aspn is the opposite of that.
Click to expand...

lonelobo said:
TIMOTHY DEER
Listed Specialty: Pain Medicine
400 COURT ST STE 100, CHARLESTON, WV, 25301-1652
Payments: At a Glance
855
PAYMENTS
$1,919,333
PAYMENT TOTAL
15
COMPANIES PAID THIS DOCTOR

Types of Payments
CATEGORYPAYMENTSPAYMENT VALUE
PROMOTIONAL SPEAKING/OTHER148$1.56M
CONSULTING182$266K
TRAVEL AND LODGING84$72,428
FOOD AND BEVERAGE438$21,742
ENTERTAINMENT1$118
EDUCATION2$55
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?
Irrelevent. Yall always make it about someone else. Reality is - whoever you hate on has made more for all of you than themselves
 
Must be nice
lonelobo said:
TIMOTHY DEER
Listed Specialty: Pain Medicine
400 COURT ST STE 100, CHARLESTON, WV, 25301-1652
Payments: At a Glance
855
PAYMENTS
$1,919,333
PAYMENT TOTAL
15
COMPANIES PAID THIS DOCTOR

Types of Payments
CATEGORYPAYMENTSPAYMENT VALUE
PROMOTIONAL SPEAKING/OTHER148$1.56M
CONSULTING182$266K
TRAVEL AND LODGING84$72,428
FOOD AND BEVERAGE438$21,742
ENTERTAINMENT1$118
EDUCATION2$55
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Was that what he made in one year from speaking or total? Please god don't tell me it's in one year! I need to up my game
 
Paingas said:
When you truly know that back story...and you find out who is profiting from the new companies ...and once you connect the dots ...you get to sit back laugh and realize why people call pain medicine one of the scummiest professions out there.
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Spot on.
 
I think we need to look at and think about who represents our field. You can call the SIS leaders fossils but they all have a passion for the science and they have integrity. I trust what they say and think that they are not self serving. I don’t think you can say the same about the leaders of other societies. Perhaps it takes a bit of a crook and a ***** to advance our cause financially. If that is true then the other societies are absolutely moving in the right direction. I don’t put Tim Deer in that category. He is a skilled, bright guy who has been very very successful and has been around a long time. The people riding his coattails are very suspect.
 
Needlejockeys said:
The main goal of working in conjunction with industry is for field preservation:
Sdn posts - fun but meaningless -
Pubmed articles, best practices, continuing education, and innovation - meaningful.
Other societies have become complacent and put up barriers to entry. Aspn is the opposite of that.
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SDN meaningless - eh, I think we all get/share a lot of good info here
pubmed articles, best practices, continuing ed, innovation - do we not discuss all of this here? (not saying the societies aren't needed for this)
 
clubdeac said:
Was that what he made in one year from speaking or total? Please god don't tell me it's in one year! I need to up my game
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What I posted was from 2013 to 2016
 
DOctorJay said:
SDN meaningless - eh, I think we all get/share a lot of good info here
pubmed articles, best practices, continuing ed, innovation - do we not discuss all of this here? (not saying the societies aren't needed for this)
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The conversations on SDN have shaped and influenced many back table discussions over the years. It's actually quite amazing.
 
Doctodd said:
Any top 70 pain docs here?....

www.beckersasc.com

70 Pain Management Physicians to Know - Becker’s ASC

Learn more about the "70 Pain Management Physicians to Know" here.
www.beckersasc.com www.beckersasc.com
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PAZ- AKA - Ampa is Peter Zimmerman at end of the list. He passed a few years ago and was an active contributor to the forum. The list is a mix of good docs and complete crooks.

Xiulu Ruan, MD (Physicians' Pain Specialists of Alabama). Dr. Ruan is the co-medical director and co-owner of Physicians' Pain Specialists of Alabama. He also serves as the director of the interventional pain management fellowship program at the practice and is the founder and executive director of the International Institute of Pain and Rehabilitation. In addition to his practice, Dr. Ruan serves as an adjunct assistant professor of neurology at the University of South Alabama in Mobile. He is a diplomate of the American Board of Interventional Pain Physicians and the American Board of Electrodiagnostic Medicine. He is also a fellow of the Interventional Pain Practice and the World Institute of Pain. He earned his medical degree at Shandong Medical University in China and completed his residency in rehabilitation at the Medical College of Wisconsin in Milwaukee. His additional training includes an interventional pain management fellowship in the University of Michigan Health System in Ann Arbor.


Google this guy and see how many cars were confiscated.
 
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