cornell or stay at binghamton for undergrad?

[Ollie2488]

I have a guaranteed transfer to Cornell and right now I’m attending Binghamton, but I don’t know what to do. I don’t want to transfer and see that I can’t compete with the rest of the student body and ruin my chances at getting into dental school. I’ve already completed my intro bio courses, intro chemistry and the organic chemistry courses, so I only need to be concerned about Physics, biochem, and perhaps a few upper level bios. I would go into the college of human ecology most likely so I understand that apart from the classes that are required and recommended for dental school I would be taking mostly social science classes, which is a plus since I seem to do better in my non science classes. Right now I’m a sophomore and I would transfer to Cornell for sophomore spring semester. I would have 5 semesters at Cornell (if I went) and 3 semesters at Bing. I wanted to transfer just because I loved the atmosphere I felt when I visited Cornell and how driven so many people were I felt that it would encourage me to step up my game constantly. I loved the campus and it seemed like they offered a lot of opportunities many schools don’t but I do like Binghamton. Also, cost wise the difference is about 6,000 dollars a year compared to what I’m paying at Bing and my parents basically said to figure out what I wanted to do and if going to Cornell is my best bet then they’ll pay the extra money. If anyone would like to try and give me more insight that would be great, I just want to know what would benefit me more when applying to dental schools. Tuition doesn’t matter to me at this point I just want to make the most advantageous move.

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[8 SNAKE]

Let me see if I have this right...

You like the atmosphere at Cornell and think that you'll be happy there, but fear that the potential competition will make you a more average student on paper? Does that about sum it up?

Now for a bit of info...

How are you doing at Binghamton? I assume you must be doing pretty well to get a guaranteed transfer to Cornell, but are you at the top of your class? What are your overall and science GPAs?

You mentioned some opportunities that seemed unique to Cornell students. What are they and how do those opportunities help you to reach your goals?

I can't speak for you, but in my opinion a student would probably act the same way at Binghamton and Cornell. If you're driven to be at the top of your class in one school, you will most likely be the same way at the other. The same would hold true for someone who just wanted to be average or above-average. In other words, don't count on the kids at Cornell to up your game because I doubt that will happen in a relative sense.

 

[Ollie2488]

Let me see if I have this right...

You like the atmosphere at Cornell and think that you'll be happy there, but fear that the potential competition will make you a more average student on paper? Does that about sum it up?

Now for a bit of info...

How are you doing at Binghamton? I assume you must be doing pretty well to get a guaranteed transfer to Cornell, but are you at the top of your class? What are your overall and science GPAs?

You mentioned some opportunities that seemed unique to Cornell students. What are they and how do those opportunities help you to reach your goals?

I can't speak for you, but in my opinion a student would probably act the same way at Binghamton and Cornell. If you're driven to be at the top of your class in one school, you will most likely be the same way at the other. The same would hold true for someone who just wanted to be average or above-average. In other words, don't count on the kids at Cornell to up your game because I doubt that will happen in a relative sense.

My overall GPA is a 3.33. My science GPA is a 3.0. I realize that this isn't competitive, but i had a hard time adjusting to the science classes my first year of college. I didn't know how I was supposed to prepare for exams and basically spent a lot of time studying, but didn't do it efficiently. Right now my GPA currently is a 4.0 for this semester and hopefully I can keep it there or at least near it. I fear that my GPA at Cornell will be significantly lower than my GPA at Binghamton and keep me from getting into a dental school. From what I've heard the science classes at cornell compared to binghamton are not far off from each other, but the non science classes are more rigorous. Opportunity wise their alumni network seems to be stronger than most and they have more majors, programs, volunteer/research opportunities.

 

[puncho]

This thread is probably better suited in the pre-dent forum...

 

[Ollie2488]

I have it posted in the pre-dental forum. I would think actual dental students would have more experience and better advice than undergrads.

 

[New2Philly]

Stay where you are. The above poster is right, this is better suited for the pre-dent forum

 

[crimsonite2099]

I have a guaranteed transfer to Cornell and right now I’m attending Binghamton, but I don’t know what to do. I don’t want to transfer and see that I can’t compete with the rest of the student body and ruin my chances at getting into dental school. I’ve already completed my intro bio courses, intro chemistry and the organic chemistry courses, so I only need to be concerned about Physics, biochem, and perhaps a few upper level bios. I would go into the college of human ecology most likely so I understand that apart from the classes that are required and recommended for dental school I would be taking mostly social science classes, which is a plus since I seem to do better in my non science classes. Right now I’m a sophomore and I would transfer to Cornell for sophomore spring semester. I would have 5 semesters at Cornell (if I went) and 3 semesters at Bing. I wanted to transfer just because I loved the atmosphere I felt when I visited Cornell and how driven so many people were I felt that it would encourage me to step up my game constantly. I loved the campus and it seemed like they offered a lot of opportunities many schools don’t but I do like Binghamton. Also, cost wise the difference is about 6,000 dollars a year compared to what I’m paying at Bing and my parents basically said to figure out what I wanted to do and if going to Cornell is my best bet then they’ll pay the extra money. If anyone would like to try and give me more insight that would be great, I just want to know what would benefit me more when applying to dental schools. Tuition doesn’t matter to me at this point I just want to make the most advantageous move.

If you are happy being at Binghamton, doing well academically, and KNOW you are going into dentistry, stay where you are. You don't need to go to a top-tier school to get into a top-tier dental school. However, if you don't plan on getting a doctorate of any kind, transfer to cornell.

 

[Quattro DMD]

My girlfriend did undergrad at Cornell, she never slept! There's people at my school that went to state schools and there's people who went to Standford but to be honest it doesn't matter what school you went to as long as you have the grades to back it up.

 

[8 SNAKE]

My overall GPA is a 3.33. My science GPA is a 3.0. I realize that this isn't competitive, but i had a hard time adjusting to the science classes my first year of college. I didn't know how I was supposed to prepare for exams and basically spent a lot of time studying, but didn't do it efficiently. Right now my GPA currently is a 4.0 for this semester and hopefully I can keep it there or at least near it. I fear that my GPA at Cornell will be significantly lower than my GPA at Binghamton and keep me from getting into a dental school. From what I've heard the science classes at cornell compared to binghamton are not far off from each other, but the non science classes are more rigorous. Opportunity wise their alumni network seems to be stronger than most and they have more majors, programs, volunteer/research opportunities.

Based on all of this, I'd stay put. It sounds like you've got the hang of things now at Binghamton and can pull your GPA up over the next 2.5 years. Cornell's name, alumni network, programs and choice of majors aren't going to get you into dental school, but a low GPA will certainly hold you back.

If you're sure that dentistry is where you want to be, this is an easy choice.

 

[DrReo]

I'd definitely would stay put, and work on pulling up your grades and annihilating the DAT. Cornell's name would be more for a personal satisfaction.

 

[gryffindor]

There were lots of Binghamton grads in my class at Buffalo when I was there who are all successful dentists and specialists now. Everyone Cornell grad I know also graduated early from there to get away from all those driven people ASAP. Stay put at Binghamton and raise your GPA now that you know how to study for classes there. Starting over at a new school means you will risk having to figure out how to study again since the competitive atmosphere may be very different. The networking opportunities will matter very little in dentistry.

It is a gorgeous campus though but climbing all those hills won't make you a better dentist.

 

[bing12]

ahh thats a tough decision. If you can do just as well in Cornell, you should transfer.

 

[ChubbyBaby]

I have a guaranteed transfer to Cornell and right now I’m attending Binghamton, but I don’t know what to do. I don’t want to transfer and see that I can’t compete with the rest of the student body and ruin my chances at getting into dental school. I’ve already completed my intro bio courses, intro chemistry and the organic chemistry courses, so I only need to be concerned about Physics, biochem, and perhaps a few upper level bios. I would go into the college of human ecology most likely so I understand that apart from the classes that are required and recommended for dental school I would be taking mostly social science classes, which is a plus since I seem to do better in my non science classes. Right now I’m a sophomore and I would transfer to Cornell for sophomore spring semester. I would have 5 semesters at Cornell (if I went) and 3 semesters at Bing. I wanted to transfer just because I loved the atmosphere I felt when I visited Cornell and how driven so many people were I felt that it would encourage me to step up my game constantly. I loved the campus and it seemed like they offered a lot of opportunities many schools don’t but I do like Binghamton. Also, cost wise the difference is about 6,000 dollars a year compared to what I’m paying at Bing and my parents basically said to figure out what I wanted to do and if going to Cornell is my best bet then they’ll pay the extra money. If anyone would like to try and give me more insight that would be great, I just want to know what would benefit me more when applying to dental schools. Tuition doesn’t matter to me at this point I just want to make the most advantageous move.

I know a lot of Cornell grads. A high proportion of them (not all, of course) are douchebaaaaaggggs. Try to think of a Cornell alumnus who is famous and you admire.... um, Keith Olbermann, biggest douche in the universe. All the girls there are jappy. What a school.. I'd rather die than go there. There's a reason people make fun of cornell... like Andy Bernard on The Office.

The fact that you're even considering this move and the fact that you are a type of person who goes to the trouble of changing fonts is not surprising to me... no offense.

 

[chocchipcookie]

^ wow. just wow. you are so wrong it's ******ed.

 

[Simiam]

Don't go to Cornell.

Undergrad name means nothing when applying to Dental School. It's all about GPA/DAT. Pull up your Science GPA at Bing. Crush the DAT. Get in some EC. Cornell could be more difficult - which would lower your GPA - which would be bad. 🙂

Plus you'd save some $$. You'll need it for D School.

 

[hoylematt]

I have found that there are a lot of fantastic extra curricular activities to become involved in while at Cornell. My friend Andy brags about his time at Cornell where he minored in history and sang in a acapella group called "Here comes Treble".

 

[chocchipcookie]

ohh yeah, i love andy!!! he's my good friend; he was in my boyfriend's frat! he's pretty cool, hear he's got a sweet gig selling paper

 

[Ollie2488]

I know a lot of Cornell grads. A high proportion of them (not all, of course) are douchebaaaaaggggs. Try to think of a Cornell alumnus who is famous and you admire.... um, Keith Olbermann, biggest douche in the universe. All the girls there are jappy. What a school.. I'd rather die than go there. There's a reason people make fun of cornell... like Andy Bernard on The Office.

The fact that you're even considering this move and the fact that you are a type of person who goes to the trouble of changing fonts is not surprising to me... no offense.

wow... you really dont know me and the reason the font is changed is because like i said before this was posted on the predent forum. i needed to retype it on word so i could post it on the dental forum. my main goal is to get into dental school. i'll ask who ever i think has the best advice to offer. dental students have just finished undergrad and know what portion of their class comes from a SUNY, ivy, or private. thank you to everyone who had actual, meaningful advice. i really do appreciate it. for those that i somehow offended by asking this innocent question, im sorry you have so much time on your hands that you feel the need to put me down instead of just ignoring this post.