Could stripping in undergrad affect job opportunities in the future?

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I just received my adult entertainer's license and I'm a freshman. However, this may end up being a big mistake as it may come up in background checks. Now I'm not doing anything illegal so I don't see the problem, but I'm worried that future employers will.

If it matters, I'm planning on going into Pharmacy or Dermatology

Thanks everyone

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Three things immediately come to mind:

1. Pics
2. You need a license to strip?
3. This is clearly a troll. You are going into Pharmacy or Dermatology?:eyebrow:
 
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Why is that questionable or odd? haha And yes an Adult Entertainer's License is required
 
Why is that questionable or odd? haha And yes an Adult Entertainer's License is required
It's odd because pharmacy school and medical school are different.

Also, you don't choose your specialty until the third year of med school. Which means that it would be at least 7 years before you are in a position to even be considering dermatology as an option. That's a really long time. Dermatology is also one of the most competitive specialties. It is good to set your goals high, but most likely there will be events in your life that will change your mind.

You already got your license. There's nothing you can do about it now, so don't worry. I doubt that it will show up on any background checks - that's mostly just for criminal activity. Besides, would you really want to work for an employer that would discriminate against something you did when you were 20 years old? By the time you are looking for a job as a pharmacist or physician, you would have (presumably) left that behind years ago. You are also years away from getting a job as a pharmacist/physician, so focus on classes now.

Stay safe, work hard, enjoy the money, and prove any naysayers wrong.
 
Eh, it's just a little odd since you're a UG freshman picking one of the most competitive specialties in medicine. "Planning" on going into derm is like "planning" on playing QB in the NFL. Derm also has a repuation of attracting people who just want money and free time.

As to your real question, I really don't have any idea how an employer would view a prior stripping career.

Kind of related, but did you see the article about the physician that was fired because of her former career as a thong model?
 
So in other words, sensible people.

Haha, I knew I would catch heat for that one. I just meant that a college freshman planning on going into derm is pretty suspicious of someone who just got done searching "what physicians work the least" or "top paying medical specialties."
 
I want a job that pays well and I'm just a stupid freshman who doesn't know what she's doing. I assumed dermatology would be pretty simple and not as terrible as what other medical fields have to deal with (acne, shingles eczema treatment etc). And I heard Pharmacy school is easier to get into and also pays well. And as for the girl who was an underwear model, I haven't seen the post (can you link it please?) but I'm guessing she did that while she had her license, which could qualify as "improper conduct".
 
I want a job that pays well and I'm just a stupid freshman who doesn't know what she's doing. I assumed dermatology would be pretty simple and not as terrible as what other medical fields have to deal with (acne, shingles eczema treatment etc). And I heard Pharmacy school is easier to get into and also pays well. And as for the girl who was an underwear model, I haven't seen the post (can you link it please?) but I'm guessing she did that while she had her license, which could qualify as "improper conduct".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/19/scott-walker-thong_n_4817327.html
 
Haha, I knew I would catch heat for that one. I just meant that a college freshman planning on going into derm is pretty suspicious of someone who just got done searching "what physicians work the least" or "top paying medical specialties."

Gotcha.

I want a job that pays well and I'm just a stupid freshman who doesn't know what she's doing. I assumed dermatology would be pretty simple and not as terrible as what other medical fields have to deal with (acne, shingles eczema treatment etc). And I heard Pharmacy school is easier to get into and also pays well. And as for the girl who was an underwear model, I haven't seen the post (can you link it please?) but I'm guessing she did that while she had her license, which could qualify as "improper conduct".

Man, you had to go and ruin your own troll attempt so early on? At least drag it out a little bit longer before showing your hand.
 
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Not odd for ws to know that. Most jobs in a field require a license if you provide a service, either the business or the person in question. Just means she's not completely vanilla to know that.

Edit: and yes that would be hot if she had a secret past as a stripper
 
Three things immediately come to mind:

1. Pics
2. You need a license to strip?
3. This is clearly a troll. You are going into Pharmacy or Dermatology?:eyebrow:

Even strippers have standards.
 
When you are interviewing and they ask you to demonstrate one of your special talents...
 
I can think of a lot of opportunities for you. They aren't forum appropriate though.
 
I just received my adult entertainer's license and I'm a freshman. However, this may end up being a big mistake as it may come up in background checks. Now I'm not doing anything illegal so I don't see the problem, but I'm worried that future employers will.

If it matters, I'm planning on going into Pharmacy or Dermatology

Thanks everyone

In spite of (and really because of) my colleague's jokes, I would advise against this job. Despite the fact that we are in the 21st century and I'm sure many doctors patronize strip clubs. The women there are not respected or taken seriously by their patrons. If you want to have to hide your job for the rest of your life and live in fear of being discovered and then forever being the office or medical school joke, I would advise against this line of work. There is still a double standard in medicine and while a guy doing that type of job might be a laugh for a day, a female doing it is forever branded.
 
I just received my adult entertainer's license and I'm a freshman. However, this may end up being a big mistake as it may come up in background checks. Now I'm not doing anything illegal so I don't see the problem, but I'm worried that future employers will.

If it matters, I'm planning on going into Pharmacy or Dermatology

Thanks everyone


Well first you need to know why you want to do this kind of job and is it necessary at this point?

You have to weigh your options here the best case scenario is you giving the dermatology residency program director the best lap dance of his life and boom job guaranteed !!
 
In spite of (and really because of) my colleague's jokes, I would advise against this job. Despite the fact that we are in the 21st century and I'm sure many doctors patronize strip clubs. The women there are not respected or taken seriously by their patrons. If you want to have to hide your job for the rest of your life and live in fear of being discovered and then forever being the office or medical school joke, I would advise against this line of work. There is still a double standard in medicine and while a guy doing that type of job might be a laugh for a day, a female doing it is forever branded.
To be fair, if it's a part-time college job, and you're not yet in medical school, you're not gonna have to spend any effort hiding it because it's not gonna come up. You do his in med school, yeah, definitely got those risks there.
 
To be fair, if it's a part-time college job, and you're not yet in medical school, you're not gonna have to spend any effort hiding it because it's not gonna come up. You do his in med school, yeah, definitely got those risks there.

OP could somehow be linked to this SDN account when she gets to medical school. One of her less than kind acquaintances from college could find out she does that (i.e. ends up at that establishment) and end up going to the same medical school or know someone who does. Word gets around. If medical school is like high school, then I could see that type of gossip spreading like wildfire . Most females will understand her motivations (easy, legal money), but the males will definitely judge her. That's the worse case scenario and it's entirely plausible. I would be cautious in doing this job if you have aspirations to go to medical school and be an attending physician.
 
OP could somehow be linked to this SDN account when she gets to medical school. One of her less than kind acquaintances from college could find out she does that (i.e. ends up at that establishment) and end up going to the same medical school or know someone who does. Word gets around. If medical school is like high school, then I could see that type of gossip spreading like wildfire . Most females will understand her motivations (easy, legal money), but the males will definitely judge her. That's the worse case scenario and it's entirely plausible. I would be cautious in doing this job if you have aspirations to go to medical school and be an attending physician.
I doubt most females are any more sympathetic to that sort of thing.
 
not sure you count as the average female. I think the average understanding person would be understanding, and the non-understanding person wouldn't be.
I'm not sure why you assumed I was referring to myself. I could have just as easily made that assertion if I were male.
 
I see the appeal, trust me. But in the end this can only hurt you in the future. It unfortunately does not matter that it's legal, you are still going to be branded as the "wrong type of girl" if this ever comes out. Look at what's happening right now to the freshman girl who is paying her way through college with porn. Or the doctor who was fired for being an underwear model years before she was even practicing.

American society has a way of punishing women who exhibit any sort of sexuality that makes stuffy old white men unfortable.

I'm sorry, love, but this isn't a good idea.
 
In spite of (and really because of) my colleague's jokes, I would advise against this job. Despite the fact that we are in the 21st century and I'm sure many doctors patronize strip clubs. The women there are not respected or taken seriously by their patrons. If you want to have to hide your job for the rest of your life and live in fear of being discovered and then forever being the office or medical school joke, I would advise against this line of work. There is still a double standard in medicine and while a guy doing that type of job might be a laugh for a day, a female doing it is forever branded.

Alternatively, she could just live her life and not give a **** what her prospective peers (waaaaaay down the line, btw) might think of it if they find out. My advice would be to make sure there aren't pictures, because omg, I (and most of the people I know) have done so many cringe-worthy, truly embarrassing things, and I'm so glad there were no such things as "texting" and "internet" when I was in my 20's.
 
Alternatively, she could just live her life and not give a **** what her prospective peers (waaaaaay down the line, btw) might think of it if they find out. My advice would be to make sure there aren't pictures, because omg, I (and most of the people I know) have done so many cringe-worthy, truly embarrassing things. I'm so glad there were no such things as "texting" and "internet" when I was in my 20's.

That attitude would work great if it was only her peers she had to worry about finding out, and if she had no intention in entering such a conservative career field. I'm all for living your life, but to ignore the consequences of the effects on her reputation should that career be discovered is just foolish.
 
American society has a way of punishing women who exhibit any sort of sexuality that makes stuffy old white men uncomfortable.

I have to disagree with you here. Aside from the blatant fallacies in your point, the argument that somehow American society is so oppressive of women sexually, and that "old, white men" have real problems with women being sexual or expressing sexuality, is just soooo tired. I understand that this is the battle cry and chief talking point of womyn on the far left of the ideological spectrum, but it is just patently false.

Would you make the argument that the OP would have better luck at a medical school with a traditionally black student body? Are you implying that black men would be less put off than white men in a professional setting by a colleague who was a sex-worker/stripper/performer in porn? Are you suggesting that young, Latin women would take no issue with a fellow student who commoditized her body to make it through undergrad, while maybe a couple of them worked more conventionally legitimate jobs to pay for school?

What is it, specifically, about "whiteness" or "maleness" or age that would inherently bias a person against strippers? Were you suggesting that strip clubs in the United States are not frequented by older males of european descent? What does that then say about your views of minorities?

Your calculated trolling with that point raised more questions than it answered. I think anyone who makes such absurd claims must provide incredible evidence to offset the absurdity.

Me personally? I would not be keen on sharing rounds with a former Chippendale Dancer. Why? Because they are mimbos. Furthermore, it strongly implies that this person lacks professionalism, is complicit in objectifying his sex, and likely has unhealthy personal relationships. All things I would consider unbecoming of a medical professional at any level. That's just me. I would feel the same about a female who was a stripper. I'm not an old, white male, either--so I wonder what that does to your argument.
 
I think you need to take two steps back, as you clearly can't see a tongue in cheek comment when it's 2 inches from your nose.

I am referring to the rather puritanical views that can be oppressive to women's sexuality. While there are often images of scantily clad women in the media, when those women are actually taking some agency over their sexuality, that is much more rare. At worst it's harmful to women's professional lives, as shown in the examples I gave. But also it can be as simple as the lack of scenes in movies and video games that show sex from a woman's point of view. The great Jim sterling can elaborate a bit more on the gaming side of things: http://www.destructoid.com/the-game-industry-doesn-t-want-female-heroes-249067.phtml

And for the record I am talking about an overall societal issue, not an individual one
 
I think you need to take two steps back, as you clearly can't see a tongue in cheek comment when it's 2 inches from your nose.

I am referring to the rather puritanical views that can be oppressive to women's sexuality. While there are often images of scantily clad women in the media, when those women are actually taking some agency over their sexuality, that is much more rare. At worst it's harmful to women's professional lives, as shown in the examples I gave. But also it can be as simple as the lack of scenes in movies and video games that show sex from a woman's point of view. The great Jim sterling can elaborate a bit more on the gaming side of things: http://www.destructoid.com/the-game-industry-doesn-t-want-female-heroes-249067.phtml

And for the record I am talking about an overall societal issue, not an individual one

1.) Tongue in cheek? Hardly! Definitely not so since you go on in this post to defend the point you made.

2.) Again you make some sweeping statements without anything to legitimize them. I asked you to comment on the non-puritanicals--those who don't fit your caricature of old, white, and male. What about them?

Also, the women in the media you refer to are not exactly forced to pose nearly-nude. I think they probably have a solid amount of agency over the decision to pose and be photographed. And there is a big difference between posing scantily-clad-like for an American Apparel ad and grinding on a man's gonads for $ingle$ in a dimly lit room as Montell Jordan blasts on the speakers overhead. Also, I think an argument can be made that a large percentage of the women who work as strippers, perform in adult films, or work as prostitutes have very little agency in those settings. Just thinking about it makes me cringe. Reading comments like yours makes me think modern Western Feminism is a faint shadow of the movement it once was.

3.) Not a gamer = Don't care. And, seriously--female "sex perspective" in video games? Is this to what the movement has been reduced?
 
You know. Normally I don't back down from this type of thing. But I'm having a crap day, man. I got some bad health news and really just want to curl up and disappear. So I'm going to respectfully bow out of this discussion.
Maybe some other time
 
You know. Normally I don't back down from this type of thing. But I'm having a crap day, man. I got some bad health news and really just want to curl up and disappear. So I'm going to respectfully bow out of this discussion.
Maybe some other time

I'm sorry to hear that, @touchpause13! I hope you know I don't mean any offense towards you or your views. I guess I just assumed since you dish it out you enjoy getting it dished back. Mostly I was just bantering and having a sharp back and forth with someone I view as intelligent. Get well soon!
 
Normally I really enjoy this type of thing and I very much respect you as well. Thanks for the well wishes.
 
Didy and touch...you both have the same endgoal (free agency and de-objectification of women).
The difference is didymus and I feel the shameless pandering to male sexuality in exchange for money actually hinders that goal.
 
I respect that school of thought. It's just not one I personally subscribe to.
 
Didy and touch...you both have the same endgoal (free agency and de-objectification of women).
The difference is didymus and I feel the shameless pandering to male sexuality in exchange for money actually hinders that goal.

Well said. I think you are absolutely correct that we agree on the objective. It is saying a lot to have people agree on end goals--often, finding common ground on the particulars, however, can be the greatest challenge to overcome.
 
Didy and touch...you both have the same endgoal (free agency and de-objectification of women).
The difference is didymus and I feel the shameless pandering to male sexuality in exchange for money actually hinders that goal.

I agree, but I think shaming a women who engaged in it because our current society values monetarily that objectification hinders it more. The discussion isn't really how we'd like things to be, it's how they actually are.

And currently, although these men will toss the dollar bills, many (including probably some woment) won't take someone who used to receive the bills seriously as a peer, subordinate, and boss in a professional setting.
 
And currently, although these men will toss the dollar bills, many (including probably some women) won't take someone who used to receive the bills seriously as a peer, subordinate, and boss in a professional setting.

I don't disagree with you. I think a lot of that has to do with how poorly people who work in a sex industry are viewed. The sad reality is that men have objectified these women, and view them as very trashy objects to be used and abused, not as peers to be respected. Women in these settings are working to satisfy the base needs of males. It isn't as though they are in a setting where they make intellectual or humanitarian contributions to society. I think it would just be a massive paradigm shift for an attending if he saw a woman perform on stage at the Boobie Pistols Gentlemen's Club, and is now staring down the table at her during a med school interview, looking over her application.
 
How would this affect one if they were a male stripper in undergrad?
 
That attitude would work great if it was only her peers she had to worry about finding out, and if she had no intention in entering such a conservative career field. I'm all for living your life, but to ignore the consequences of the effects on her reputation should that career be discovered is just foolish.

I know plenty of women who stripped in their 20's who went on to become lawyers, doctors, feminist leaders, professors and even one who became a government linguistics specialist. Want to know why? It never showed up as a thing they had to report on their applications because it was legal. And they are well respected in their fields because they are brilliant women who kick ass all day, every day. Do they talk about their stint at stripping at company parties? No, but I'm sure a few close friends know. *You* give ****s because you don't know any strippers. People well into their chosen careers do not generally give ****s because it's results that count - board scores, shelf scores, getting your damn job done without being a liability.

And as for the greater gestalt of this conversation, women have the right to own AND SELL their sexuality, and do it all the time whether they're in the sex industry or not. If that wasn't the case, men wouldn't expect sex after buying a woman dinner and drinks. It's built into our culture. Some women are better at taking advantage of that cultural peculiarity than others, and they sincerely don't care what the men think of them, because face it: the men are there spending money to look at women they wouldn't have a chance with outside the club. If you think of it that way, who looks more pathetic? Don't hate the players, hate the game.
 
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