seethrew said:
Now I want to rant and rave about the alternate list! If anyone has any info - give it up!!! I doubt there is much movement... anyone know?
If you do some clever searching you'll find lots of my own personal rants about the waitlist, from a few years ago. Ultimately though, I was never really able to learn much about it, other than people's speculations...Duke's very secretive compared to other schools. In fact, even students I know on the actual admissions committee aren't told how it works! Duke won't tell you where you are on the list, nor will they tell you how big it is, or even if it's possible to move up in the list by updating them on your grades, publications, etc. That said, I do know that in my class there's a good 5-10 of us who came off the waitlist...I think I was one of the last few, as it was mid-July when I got my acceptance, only 2-3 weeks before classes started! And as it gets closer to the start of classes people either withdraw from the waitlist, or turn down an offer once their plans are solidified elsewhere, which increases the chances for people who really really want to be at Duke and are willing to make other sacrifices in the hopes of being pulled off the list. So being flexible is a big part of the game. If you really want it, then it's worth the sacrifice. For example, I set up plans to live with an older medical student at my second choice school, Penn, so that I didn't have to sign a lease there and would be able to drop everything to come to Duke even at the last minute. But I had never even met the guy! It was a big risk! But if I hadn't done that, I wouldn't have been able to come down here so late in the game.
The nice thing about this system though is that it's pretty much a guarantee that a school will draw from its waitlist, because the alternative is overfilling the class, which is a very very poor option financially. It turns out that educating a medical student is very much a financially burdensome endeavor. Despite the fact that tuition is so expensive, it still doesn't come even close to covering the cost of educating a student, which is probably one reason why Duke's class is only ~100. Still, it's important to realize that a school needs to make its alternate list large enough to avoid the possibility of somehow NOT filling its class. So if you happen to be one of the unlucky ones at the bottom of the list, then chances are very slim indeed. All the more reason why it really sucks that Duke won't even tell you "top half" vs "bottom half" or somehow create waitlist "tiers" the way schools like Penn do.
Also, although no one seems to know whether or not it's helpful, I'm a big proponent of writing occasional letters of interest, or an occasional letter updating the school on your life. So if you get into Phi Beta Kappa in the spring, tell Duke about it. If you get something published, tell Duke about it. I did this a few times, and it worked out for me, although I don't know if these things really made a difference...maybe I just happened to be high enough on the list. Still, as long as you're not obnoxious about it I don't see how it could hurt, so what's there to lose? It doesn't take long to write a short letter.
Anyway, I hope that's helpful info. I know how frustrating the whole waitlist game is. Hang in there, and let me know if there's anything I can do to help. I'll let you know if I hear anything. This year has been extraordinarily competitive and pretty unbelievable for Duke admissions, so just the fact that you've been chosen to be on the alternate list is a heck of an accomplishment. It means that, if they could, Duke would happily take you as a student, but they're unfortunately limited to 100 seats. From a top school like Duke, that's pretty flattering.