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I placed out of gen chem and took orgo my freshman year. I go to a top 10 undergrad where you can place into orgo if you had a 5 on AP chem and you did well on this placement test. Some of my secondaries ask if I finished all of their pre-medical coursework requirements? How do I respond to this?
 
I placed out of gen chem and took orgo my freshman year. I go to a top 10 undergrad where you can place into orgo if you had a 5 on AP chem and you did well on this placement test. Some of my secondaries ask if I finished all of their pre-medical coursework requirements? How do I respond to this?
Is general chemistry required for that school? If so, do they accept AP credit in replacement for 2 gen chem classes? I doubt that they would accept just AP credit for chemistry, but @gonnif will know.

Also, you can still take the gen chem serious before matriculation, just take it at a CC. I would suggest this over just using ap credit
 
Is general chemistry required for that school? If so, do they accept AP credit in replacement for 2 gen chem classes? I doubt that they would accept just AP credit for chemistry, but @gonnif will know.

Also, you can still take the gen chem serious before matriculation, just take it at a CC. I would suggest this over just using ap credit

Lmao I laughed a little when you said take it at a CC. I'll have to probably ask my premed advisor since all the people from previous years who took freshman orgo are at T20 med schools. For background my school has this option for kids who are really good at chem coming in that taking gen chem would just be a waste of time for them. Like it isn't like we're trying to escape gen chem cause we're so scared of it lol. There's probably some sort of understanding med schools have with my school. Gonna email my premed advisor to see what they say.
 
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Lmao I gagged a little when you said take it at a CC.
Dude, really? Why would you say that? That’s incredibly ignorant and disrespectful. I did most of my premed requirements at a CC (I am a transfer student) and can honestly say it helped prepare me much more than the courses taught at the university (just look at my MCAT). While I understand there’s a stereotype and somewhat negative perception associated with CC and it’s students, I nevertheless don’t see how or why it made you “gag”
 
Dude, really? Why would you say that? That’s incredibly ignorant and disrespectful. I did most of my premed requirements at a CC (I am a transfer student) and can honestly say it helped prepare me much more than the courses taught at the university (just look at my MCAT). While I understand there’s a stereotype and somewhat negative perception associated with CC and it’s students, I nevertheless don’t see how or why it made you “gag”
sorry didn't mean to hurt any feelings. I'm only speaking for myself because based on my profile, ADCOMs would scratch their heads wondering why i'm at a CC.
 
If you have AP credit for Gen Chem it will work at school's that accept it. If skipping Gen Chem shows up on your transcript as having Gen Chem credit, you're fine. If not, you'll have to take some kind of other inorganic chemistry, or general chemistry somewhere else. Also, medical schools likely do not have "an understanding" with your school. I'd tone back the arrogance before interviews, there's plenty of other applicants that will have better stats from better schools with better experiences that don't look down on others' educational opportunities.
 
ADCOMs would scratch their heads wondering why i'm at a CC.

In b4 “4.0/525, 13 interviews no acceptances”.


I assure you, no one will wonder why you’re taking a class you don’t have at a college.

They will scratch their heads wondering how you seem to have overlooked taking an entire pre-req for medical school.

On a very real, non-confrontational, just trying to help you out note: if this thread is indicative of how you talk irl (not making assumptions or saying it is), you need to straighten out before interview season.
 
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I tested out of gen chem too and was never asked about it on the interview trail. If your school accepts it they will likely designate its completion on your transcript like mine did.
 
I really am not trying to offend anyone. None of you know who I am irl or the strength of my application. I'm quite certain I'll end up at my own undergrad's t20 med school, but whatever you guys can think what you want. Anyways, I found what I was looking for off of school's websites, which is what I should've done in the first place anyways.

Harvard: AP credits that enable you to take a higher-level course will satisfy one semester of inorganic chemistry

Yale: Students entering college with a strong background in the sciences, as demonstrated by advanced placement, are encouraged to substitute advanced science courses for the traditional requirements listed above.

JHU: If using AP or IB credit, an additional semester in advanced chemistry is required

So basically just use upper level chem, which I've already taken anyways.
 
I really am not trying to offend anyone. None of you know who I am irl or the strength of my application. I'm quite certain I'll end up at my own undergrad's t20 med school, but whatever you guys can think what you want. Anyways, I found what I was looking for off of school's websites, which is what I should've done in the first place anyways.

Harvard: AP credits that enable you to take a higher-level course will satisfy one semester of inorganic chemistry

Yale: Students entering college with a strong background in the sciences, as demonstrated by advanced placement, are encouraged to substitute advanced science courses for the traditional requirements listed above.

JHU: If using AP or IB credit, an additional semester in advanced chemistry is required

So basically just use upper level chem, which I've already taken anyways.

Damn you must be a nobel prize winner or something
 
I really am not trying to offend anyone. None of you know who I am irl or the strength of my application. I'm quite certain I'll end up at my own undergrad's t20 med school, but whatever you guys can think what you want. Anyways, I found what I was looking for off of school's websites, which is what I should've done in the first place anyways.

Harvard: AP credits that enable you to take a higher-level course will satisfy one semester of inorganic chemistry

Yale: Students entering college with a strong background in the sciences, as demonstrated by advanced placement, are encouraged to substitute advanced science courses for the traditional requirements listed above.

JHU: If using AP or IB credit, an additional semester in advanced chemistry is required

So basically just use upper level chem, which I've already taken anyways.
With all due respect, it appears as though the whole point of your question was either to humble brag about your 5 in AP Chemistry or how you placed out of freshman chemistry at a T10 undergrad. As soon as the first response came in, you replied with the experience of those before you who are now at T20 med schools, so you already knew you would be okay before you posted. Anyway, what's the difference how you answer that specific question on the secondary? The schools will see your transcript, and you either have already completed the prerequisites or you will complete the prerequisites!

Quite frankly, it sounds like you might be a little too good for the gen pop, and should probably stick to advising at your T10, since most of the advice given here won't apply to anyone like you. Finally, while you are apparently "quite certain" you will end up at a T20 med school, if your interactions here are an indicator of how you will present at an interview, I'll bet you are more likely to be one of the 11% or so of applicants with GPAs greater than 3.79 and MCATs greater than 517 with zero acceptances. Your odds will be even worse if your stats aren't at that level. You might want to think about that before you publicly declare any certainty regarding your med school prospects.
 
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With all due respect, it appears as though the whole point of your question was either to humble brag about your 5 in AP Chemistry or how you placed out of freshman chemistry at a T10 undergrad. As soon as the first response came in, you replied with the experience of those before you who are now at T20 med schools, so you already knew you would be okay before you posted. Anyway, what's the difference how you answer that specific question on the secondary? The schools will see your transcript, and you either have already completed the prerequisites or you will complete the prerequisites!

Quite frankly, it sounds like you might be a little too good for the gen pop, and should probably stick to advising at your T10, since most of the advice given here won't apply to anyone like you. Finally, while you are apparently "quite certain" you will end up at a T20 med school, if your interactions here are an indicator of how you will present at an interview, I'll bet you are more likely to be one of the 11% or so of applicants with GPAs greater than 3.79 and MCATs greater than 517 with zero acceptances. Your odds will be even worse if your stats aren't at that level. You might want to think about that before you publicly declare any certainty regarding your med school prospects.
Nah I had a legitimate question, it just came out the wrong way since I was trying to explain that my situation is different from the average premed. Getting a 5 on AP Chem and placing out of gen chem was just background info I was providing to explain my situation, not something worth bragging about. I'm at 4.0/526 so stats aren't a problem for me. I'm actually rather timid in person so my online persona is like my alter ego lolol.
 
Damn you must be a nobel prize winner or something
nope. just high stats paired with strong ECs, few pubs, and couple prestigious research awards. This is my first time posting online so I replied the same way I text, which unintentionally came off as quite crude.
 
Nah I had a legitimate question, it just came out the wrong way since I was trying to explain that my situation is different from the average premed. Getting a 5 on AP Chem and placing out of gen chem was just background info I was providing to explain my situation, not something worth bragging about. I'm at 4.0/526 so stats aren't a problem for me. I'm actually rather timid in person so my online persona is like my alter ego lolol.
Your stats are certainly impressive; even more so coming from a T10, Assuming you keep yourself under control in person, you will do great, but it still seems like you were trolling the group since you already knew that placing out of freshman chemistry would not be an issue when applying to med schools. You should, however, think about this guy: Fastcase Public Document
while admiring your stats and your prospects. Mr. Pierce also felt pretty good about his prospects, and probably still doesn't understand what happened, and he went to a better school than you and had a better MCAT score. 🙂
 
None of you know who I am irl or the strength of my application. I'm quite certain I'll end up at my own undergrad's t20 med school, but whatever you guys can think what you want.

Bruh. Tons of people here go to T20 med schools. No one cares about that.

You came in here with a certain energy and got mad when people matched it. Everyone in this thread is trying to help you.
 
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Make sure you've taken 2 semesters of advanced chemistry. Most of the T20s you're shooting for don't like and/or won't accept community college credits for required courses and won't take AP credits either. They will allow you to substitute more advanced science classes in the same field as you eventually discovered. Just make sure you've taken 2 and not just 1 because 2 semesters of gen chem are required.
 
Bruh. Tons of people here go to T20 med schools. No one cares about that.

You came in here with a certain energy and got mad when people matched it. Everyone in this thread is trying to help you.
I'm not mad at that. I'm annoyed that people are giving me the wrong advice because they assume I'm their standard premed. Imagine asking a former chem olympiad kid who's now at MIT to take gen chem at a community college. Call it arrogance or whatever, but come on...
 
OP

Make sure you've taken 2 semesters of advanced chemistry. Most of the T20s you're shooting for don't like and/or won't accept community college credits for required courses and won't take AP credits either. They will allow you to substitute more advanced science classes in the same field as you eventually discovered. Just make sure you've taken 2 and not just 1 because 2 semesters of gen chem are required.
Yup, I'm using 2 semester of physical chemistry to fulfill this requirement. Does this work?
 
Yup, I'm using 2 semester of physical chemistry to fulfill this requirement. Does this work?

Yes. Now how do you plan to satisfy the 2 semester gen chem lab requirement.

Did you take p chem lab? Biochem lab? Inorganic chem lab?

A lot of T20s now follow a competency based admissions policy so that independent research in chemistry might suffice. This is a case by case thing.
 
Yes. Now how do you plan to satisfy the 2 semester gen chem lab requirement.

Did you take p chem lab? Biochem lab? Inorganic chem lab?

A lot of T20s now follow a competency based admissions policy so that independent research in chemistry might suffice. This is a case by case thing.
If you need a lab class, if your school has something like Quantitative Analysis that **** is dope. Hard, but fun methinks.
 
Yes. Now how do you plan to satisfy the 2 semester gen chem lab requirement.

Did you take p chem lab? Biochem lab? Inorganic chem lab?

A lot of T20s now follow a competency based admissions policy so that independent research in chemistry might suffice. This is a case by case thing.
I took gen chem lab and orgo lab already. so this should cover it. Thanks for your help!
 
Guys, OP is not your standard premed. Start putting some respeck on his name when you reply.
if you're not going to be helpful just shut it. If I were to follow the general advice given to people in my situation, I would be wasting time and money at a community college when I don't need to. It would be the same as asking someone who did USAMO to take pre-algebra.
 
You come here and ask for advice, then complain about the advice. All while insulting any "standard premeds" who went to CC because that's beneath you. You're pretentiousness is preventing you from seeing the point. I'm not commenting on your profile / application. You're probably as qualified as you say you are, but that doesn't excuse the pompous personality you've presented in this thread.
 
if you're not going to be helpful just shut it. If I were to follow the general advice given to people in my situation, I would be wasting time and money at a community college when I don't need to. It would be the same as asking someone who did USAMO to take pre-algebra.

Of course if you had said in your original posting that you had upper level chemistry, you would have probably gotten quick responses with derision. But you deserve it all for you assumption that we knew your background, that going to some ivy school sets you apart, or that your obnoxious and snobby attitude was simply a sign of your perceived superiority. You better get chip off your shoulder if, I say if, you get into medical school you be expected to have the ability for being humble. If I had five minutes of an interview with you it would be more than enough to reject. Learn not to be such an A-hole little prick and you get on better in life
 
if you're not going to be helpful just shut it. If I were to follow the general advice given to people in my situation, I would be wasting time and money at a community college when I don't need to. It would be the same as asking someone who did USAMO to take pre-algebra.
Bruh...You literally just indicated that you are intending on taking PChem. You are good. Your alternative, and the cheaper option (why most people are recommending it) is to go take gen chem at a CC. So get your head out of your ass and accept that people are trying to help you out. You and your attitude are the ones in the wrong.

Community college is a much cheaper option, so I say you are going to be wasting your money taking PChem at a T10 undergrad.

I took Gen bio after I took hematology, immunology, blood banking, and microbiology...Was it a waste of time and money? No, because it is still what med schools want. You are their bitch, not the other way around.
 
Bruh...You literally just indicated that you are intending on taking PChem. You are good. Your alternative, and the cheaper option (why most people are recommending it) is to go take gen chem at a CC. So f*** off and get your head out of your ass and accept that people are trying to help you out. You and your attitude are the ones in the wrong.

Community college is a much cheaper option, so I say you are going to be wasting your money taking PChem at a T10 undergrad.

I took Gen bio after I took hematology, immunology, blood banking, and microbiology...Was it a waste of time and money? No, because it is still what med schools want. You are their bitch, not the other way around.

OP has already taken P chem, is probably a chem major and probably already graduated.
 
Missed the "Already" portion, thank you for the correction!

So why is this even a thread...?

OP wasn’t aware of med schools’ differing policies re AP credits and community college and the use of upper level science courses.

It’s worth noting that someone with OP’s stats has to aim high as a matter of self preservation. Yield protection is a thing. It’s also a thing that T20s dislike community college science credits whether or not anyone agrees with it or not. Med schools are in the driver’s seat.
 
It's pretty ironic for someone with as humble of a username as "lowlypremed" to be such an elitist prick.

OP has to aim high. Yield protection for him/her is a certainty at lower stats med schools.
 
Just because one has to aim high does not entitle them to think lesser of those below.
Lmao I don't think lesser of anyone. In fact I don't care how good or bad other people are. I know that I'm better than a majority of premeds, and I'm not going to try to hide it just to appear humble on an online forum.


It's pretty ironic for someone with as humble of a username as "lowlypremed" to be such an elitist prick.
I don't bring up my achievement to brag, but to give background since my situation differs from most premeds. I don't want to receive advice (such as going to CC) that doesn't apply to me and could potentially lower my chances of getting accepted. I've noticed this general trend on SDN. People seem so afraid of high stat applicants, while failing to realize that med school admissions is still primarily a stats-driven game.

OP has to aim high. Yield protection for him/her is a certainty at lower stats med schools.
This is correct. Even my premed advisor told me to apply to just T-20s and a couple mid tiers. honestly expecting to get rejected pre-interview from the mid tiers.
 
I know that I'm better than a majority of premeds, and I'm not going to try to hide it just to appear humble on an online forum.
As someone with similar self perceptions, I have a thread for you to read:

 
You come here and ask for advice, then complain about the advice. All while insulting any "standard premeds" who went to CC because that's beneath you. You're pretentiousness is preventing you from seeing the point. I'm not commenting on your profile / application. You're probably as qualified as you say you are, but that doesn't excuse the pompous personality you've presented in this thread.
That's because people are giving me bad advice, and then calling me elitist for saying that I go to a good school and have uber high stats that would make attending CC a pseudo red flag. Just give me the advice, don't need you to comment on my character.
 
“I am better than” indicates an internalized belief of “they are less than me.”
Then too bad. Some people are simply more qualified than others. I will continue to believe it because it is true. Doesn't mean they can't be good people.
 
I don't bring up my achievement to brag, but to give background since my situation differs from most premeds. I don't want to receive advice (such as going to CC) that doesn't apply to me and could potentially lower my chances of getting accepted. I've noticed this general trend on SDN. People seem so afraid of high stat applicants, while failing to realize that med school admissions is still primarily a stats-driven game.

When you said that you "gagged a little" at the prospect of attending a CC and that adcoms would "scratch their heads" if they saw that you took a CC class, it came off as extremely pompous and elitist. I get that you went to a top undergrad and have high stats, but don't scoff at legitimate avenues taken by other pre-meds who have more geographic/financial restrictions than you.

Also, do you realize that you posted a four-sentence thread with hardly any background information? You were bound to get some advice that doesn't directly apply to your specific situation. That doesn't mean that you have to start lecturing everybody about how you're "not the average pre-med" and complaining about how you're receiving irrelevant advice. People were trying to help you. It's not their fault that your original post was vague and incomplete.

If your repugnant behavior on this thread is reflective at all of your offline personality, then you have a lot of preparation to do before interview season. I sincerely wish you the best of luck.
 
When you said that you "gagged a little" at the prospect of attending a CC and that adcoms would "scratch their heads" if they saw that you took a CC class, it came off as extremely pompous and elitist. I get that you went to a top undergrad and have high stats, but don't scoff at legitimate avenues taken by other pre-meds who have more geographic/financial restrictions than you.

Also, do you realize that you posted a four-sentence thread with hardly any background information? You were bound to get some advice that doesn't directly apply to your specific situation. That doesn't mean that you have to start lecturing everybody about how you're "not the average pre-med" and complaining about how you're receiving irrelevant advice. People were trying to help you. It's not their fault that your original post was vague and incomplete.

If your repugnant behavior on this thread is reflective at all of your offline personality, then you have a lot of preparation to do before interview season. I sincerely wish you the best of luck.
whatever I don't think my behavior was repugnant, just that people easily get offended. and as I said earlier I'm rather tame in person and not socially inept, so interviews will be relatively straightforward. I have some family friend adcoms who told me high stat people like me basically just have to not come off as a psychopath.
 
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