Alright. Been a long time since I've checked this out but I'll try to post some fun cases. You get a call to the ed and there is a couple in a tangle on the stretcher. They had dinner and went home for a nitecap. The tangle involves his prince Albert piercing hooked into her tonsil. Ent dude can't do anything cause she is freaking out. Whatcha wanna do?
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Alright. Been a long time since I've checked this out but I'll try to post some fun cases. You get a call to the ed and there is a couple in a tangle on the stretcher. They had dinner and went home for a nitecap. The tangle involves his prince Albert piercing hooked into her tonsil. Ent dude can't do anything cause she is freaking out. Whatcha wanna do?
umm so his penis bling is caught on her tonsil? damn if this is real its a great story in the making...
i am going to think about this scenario, academically of course
Pictures please.🙂
Alright. Been a long time since I've checked this out but I'll try to post some fun cases. You get a call to the ed and there is a couple in a tangle on the stretcher. They had dinner and went home for a nitecap. The tangle involves his prince Albert piercing hooked into her tonsil. Ent dude can't do anything cause she is freaking out. Whatcha wanna do?
I hope you have since prank called the ED and asked, "Do you have prince Albert in a can?"
boy talk about standing your ground
Alright. Been a long time since I've checked this out but I'll try to post some fun cases. You get a call to the ed and there is a couple in a tangle on the stretcher. They had dinner and went home for a nitecap. The tangle involves his prince Albert piercing hooked into her tonsil. Ent dude can't do anything cause she is freaking out. Whatcha wanna do?
Well .... you could rule out elective surgery for the next 6-8 hours, as the female patient isn't NPO.
Correct answer for the orals...
Prop, sux.... jet ventilation through a suprapubic catheter.
Prop, sux.... jet ventilation through a suprapubic catheter.
I'll bite:
You're going to need to anesthetize both, right? Call for help.
How freaked out are they? Can they be talked down and redirected?
yes? Do so, IVs, monitors, awake nasal fiber for her (he's not Johnny Wad, right, so there's some room?)
No? Ketamine dart for her, IVs, glidescope attempt (maintaining spontaneous ventilation in the K-hole). Total spinal and a urology consult for penectomy for him.
You're going to need to anesthetize both, right? Call for help.
How freaked out are they? Can they be talked down and redirected?
yes? Do so, IVs, monitors, awake nasal fiber for her (he's not Johnny Wad, right, so there's some room?)
No? Ketamine dart for her, IVs, glidescope attempt (maintaining spontaneous ventilation in the K-hole). Total spinal and a urology consult for penectomy for him.
Well .... you could rule out elective surgery for the next 6-8 hours, as the female patient isn't NPO.





I'll bite:........
.......Total spinal and a urology consult for penectomy for him.
Ouch.
Wait, um, penectomy? Why are we there just yet... and can this non-doc please suggest a Psych consult IF there is a penectomy? Not even a joke.
D712
bite block stat, then glory hole mask induction.
cigarillo for ze gentleman.
cigarillo for ze gentleman.
I remember this one... here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3MqTun92PI
To summarize: Just have her sing an Aerosmith tune. 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3MqTun92PI
To summarize: Just have her sing an Aerosmith tune. 🙂
Y'all are amazing! Still get a smile when I think about supra pubic jet ventilation. Had no idea it was actually in a movie tho. Just something funny to bring up at the bar when hanging with colleagues. Nice work!
bite block stat, then glory hole mask induction.
cigarillo for ze gentleman.
stellar.
Just spray them with the water hose like you do when dogs get stuck together. I wonder if the ent will do a t and a after all this is said and done. Sounds like a pretty good indication to me.
On a more serious note, you could probably place an LMA with no problem.
Pigs have rings through the nose to stop them rooting about.
Bulls have rings through the nose so that they can be led by them.
Ladies, if a man has a ring through his junk, think pig not bull.
Bulls have rings through the nose so that they can be led by them.
Ladies, if a man has a ring through his junk, think pig not bull.
On a more serious note, you could probably place an LMA with no problem.
on the girl?
oh i get it
Maybe first they could do a penectomy on the guy, airway with a rapid sequence. Leave the girl alone for now.
So now that they are separated at long last again.
Then, they can do a tonsellectomy on the girl. They can secure the airway with an awake nasal fiberoptic. By waiting some time with the first operation, maybe she isn't a full stomach anymore depending on if you consider sperm a full stomach.
Lastly, they can then reverse the penectomy.
Is this how it all went about. This guy isn't named John Wayne Bobbit by any chance?
So now that they are separated at long last again.
Then, they can do a tonsellectomy on the girl. They can secure the airway with an awake nasal fiberoptic. By waiting some time with the first operation, maybe she isn't a full stomach anymore depending on if you consider sperm a full stomach.
Lastly, they can then reverse the penectomy.
Is this how it all went about. This guy isn't named John Wayne Bobbit by any chance?
The major thing here is to get the piercing out of the tonsil. You can't do that because the girl is freaking out and won't let ENT near her. So the girl needs to go to sleep.
I know this sounds weird, but is there any possibility of doing an intubation with imaging guidance? Given that there is a groin in her mouth, having a direct view of the cords is a very unlikely thing. But you want her to be sleepy so that ENT can unhook the piercing in the OR, and you want the airway secured so she doesn't aspirate and so if the carotid was hit by the piercing and removing it causes a bloodbath, she's well secured for the repair procedure.
If all else fails, I'd trach her.
I would never consider taking the guy's dick off. That's unneccessary.
I know this sounds weird, but is there any possibility of doing an intubation with imaging guidance? Given that there is a groin in her mouth, having a direct view of the cords is a very unlikely thing. But you want her to be sleepy so that ENT can unhook the piercing in the OR, and you want the airway secured so she doesn't aspirate and so if the carotid was hit by the piercing and removing it causes a bloodbath, she's well secured for the repair procedure.
If all else fails, I'd trach her.
I would never consider taking the guy's dick off. That's unneccessary.
I can't really say that I know exactly how I would handle this but one thing that comes to my mind in jet ventilation if you can't do anything else cuz the girl freaks when you get close to her. How to arrange the Jet Ventilation is tricky tho. If you have good access to her neck then think about doing a transtracheal injection except insert an 18-14g jelco catheter. If she still wont let you near her, then somehow you are going to have to calm her down. If I felt confident that I could get in her tracheal then I may induce and go. I understand the risks of aspiration but in the ABC's of resusitation A doesn't stand for aspiration. It stands for Airway. Airway first everyone.
Also, I would like for the guy to not still be erect for the procedure. WTF
Also, I would like for the guy to not still be erect for the procedure. WTF
If he is then you can threaten stat treatment for priapism. Show him a needle and explain it's going into his corpora cavernosa, that ought to motivate him to limp up (down).
If he is then you can threaten stat treatment for priapism. Show him a needle and explain it's going into his corpora cavernosa, that ought to motivate him to limp up (down).
Maybe detumescence will dislodge the Prince Albert. Maybe that's all this case needs.
If he is then you can threaten stat treatment for priapism. Show him a needle and explain it's going into his corpora cavernosa, that ought to motivate him to limp up (down).
There is another way to achieve detumescence. One of our drugs is notoriously capable of this. Any ideas which one?
There is another way to achieve detumescence. One of our drugs is notoriously capable of this. Any ideas which one?
Well phenylephrine is used with direct injections for priapism but I'm guessing that's not what you were going for.
Barbiturates?
ETA - cocaine? 😀
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There is another way to achieve detumescence. One of our drugs is notoriously capable of this. Any ideas which one?
Some kind of adrenergic agonist?
Not the one I'm thinking of.
Some kind of adrenergic agonist?
There are lots and lots and lots of drugs that'll produce erectile dysfunction, but I figured he was going for something instant and dramatic ...
There are lots and lots and lots of drugs that'll produce erectile dysfunction, but I figured he was going for something instant and dramatic ...
I wouldn't say instant but pretty dramatic with complete detumescence at around 90 minutes.
I've heard of ketamine and/or glycopyrrolate for this
I've heard of ketamine and/or glycopyrrolate for this
Oh wise one you are very smart young Jedi.
KETAMINE is it.
http://www.anesthesia-analgesia.org/content/61/8/705.full.pdf
There is another way to achieve detumescence. One of our drugs is notoriously capable of this. Any ideas which one?
This will work so much faster than pharmaceuticals:
Oh wise one you are very smart young Jedi.
KETAMINE is it.
Good to know.