Crazy Situation

[Arazi1]

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First off, this is something I need advice on, not people trolling so if you don't have anything good to post, don't post it at all. I will try to keep it short.

So I'm a first year MS, my family is ecstatic and I am happy to be a med student. Sometimes I ask myself why I'm here. I want to be a doctor, not because I want to make money for myself, not because its what I've wanted to do since I was a little kid but so I can do as much as I can for a conflict in the middle east that is the root of so much conflict these days. People don't realize the root of most of the middle east conflict/terrorism is because of the Israeli Palestinian Conflict which is dear to me. I want to be a doctor so I can donate a majority of my time in Israel trying to progress the peace process. People are ignorant and ignorance is the stem of the violence. The problem is, being a doctor is not my passion. My passion is in academia (medicine) but I fear that as an academia I will not make enough money to support myself in constantly traveling to Israel, starting an organization/foundation, buying books/pamphlets, etc. I have thought about a MD/Phd but I just don't know what to do. If I back out now and do a Ph.D my family will think I couldn't do it and opted for the easy way out. I'm stuck and down about this. Some advice would be appreciated. 😍🙂

 

[ManBroDude]

If "being a doctor is not [your] passion", may I direct you to a master's degree in Jewish studies?

I can't imagine accumulating 4 years of debt for something you don't want to do.

 

[link2swim06]

First off, this is something I need advice on, not people trolling so if you don't have anything good to post, don't post it at all. I will try to keep it short.

So I'm a first year MS, my family is ecstatic and I am happy to be a med student. Sometimes I ask myself why I'm here. I want to be a doctor, not because I want to make money for myself, not because its what I've wanted to do since I was a little kid but so I can do as much as I can for a conflict in the middle east that is the root of so much conflict these days. People don't realize the root of most of the middle east conflict/terrorism is because of the Israeli Palestinian Conflict which is dear to me. I want to be a doctor so I can donate a majority of my time in Israel trying to progress the peace process. People are ignorant and ignorance is the stem of the violence. The problem is, being a doctor is not my passion. My passion is in academia (medicine) but I fear that as an academia I will not make enough money to support myself in constantly traveling to Israel, starting an organization/foundation, buying books/pamphlets, etc. I have thought about a MD/Phd but I just don't know what to do. If I back out now and do a Ph.D my family will think I couldn't do it and opted for the easy way out. I'm stuck and down about this. Some advice would be appreciated. 😍🙂

Why would a MD/Phd or a PhD make it easier to finance traveling and starting a foundation?

 

[Kevin Baker]

I have some friends who are planning on working part time in Israel and part time in the US. They've mentioned some places offer, or will finance 12 month stints, if that sounds up your alley. And plenty of US research labs have connections with Israeli ones. That might be another route to look at. I doubt not having a PhD would hold you back.

Also, I believe a US medical license, post residency, transfers pretty easily over to Israel, with some minimal paperwork, but you need to have a working knowledge of Hebrew. So I'd brush up if you haven't already 🙂

 

[calvnandhobbs68]

How exactly did you lie your way into medical school again? It sounds like you don't even want to practice medicine except as a way to get funding. Wanting to be a doctor in Israel is different than being a doctor just so you can get money to travel back and forth to Israel.

 

[Docforthepeeps]

Obvious troll is obvious

 

[Newusername]

I would tend to agree with the above posts.....

If you want to make a difference in the middle east then you should probably be going into politics not medicine..... you can do a lot of good as a Doctor but if your passion is the middle east conflict then you can make that your life's work a lot more directly by doing something other than medicine

Follow your dreams, not your parents vision for your life (because honestly, who said life has to be hard and that there is such thing as an "easy way out" when really life is about being you and doing what you believe in)

 

[ccmonopolies]

First off, this is something I need advice on, not people trolling so if you don't have anything good to post, don't post it at all. I will try to keep it short.

So I'm a first year MS, my family is ecstatic and I am happy to be a med student. Sometimes I ask myself why I'm here. I want to be a doctor, not because I want to make money for myself, not because its what I've wanted to do since I was a little kid but so I can do as much as I can for a conflict in the middle east that is the root of so much conflict these days. People don't realize the root of most of the middle east conflict/terrorism is because of the Israeli Palestinian Conflict which is dear to me. I want to be a doctor so I can donate a majority of my time in Israel trying to progress the peace process. People are ignorant and ignorance is the stem of the violence. The problem is, being a doctor is not my passion. My passion is in academia (medicine) but I fear that as an academia I will not make enough money to support myself in constantly traveling to Israel, starting an organization/foundation, buying books/pamphlets, etc. I have thought about a MD/Phd but I just don't know what to do. If I back out now and do a Ph.D my family will think I couldn't do it and opted for the easy way out. I'm stuck and down about this. Some advice would be appreciated. 😍🙂

normally, you get rich people to fund these types of social organizations. You don't pay out of pocket, lol.

 

[Rendar5]

How are you supposed to fund trips to Israel and start a foundation when you're over $200,000 in debt and working 80 hrs/wk?

 

[Kadava Reviva]

You realise the Middle East will only see peace when all humans are gone. I understand your intentions are noble, but maybe you should try and live there for a year before trying to fix the problem. Nothing makes people as bad as religion.

 

[SteinUmStein]

You realise the Middle East will only see peace when all humans are gone. I understand your intentions are noble, but maybe you should try and live there for a year before trying to fix the problem. Nothing makes people as bad as religion.

+1. Literally thousands of people with more time, energy, resources, and power have invested their entire lives into trying to solve this problem and have completely failed to date. Adding every ounce of energy and money you have for the duration of your life to fixing this will be like trying to empty Lake Michigan with a bucket. Go ahead and try, but don't be surprised when you're on your deathbed and nothing has changed.

 

[ChemMed]

First off, this is something I need advice on, not people trolling so if you don't have anything good to post, don't post it at all. I will try to keep it short.

So I'm a first year MS, my family is ecstatic and I am happy to be a med student. Sometimes I ask myself why I'm here. I want to be a doctor, not because I want to make money for myself, not because its what I've wanted to do since I was a little kid but so I can do as much as I can for a conflict in the middle east that is the root of so much conflict these days. People don't realize the root of most of the middle east conflict/terrorism is because of the Israeli Palestinian Conflict which is dear to me. I want to be a doctor so I can donate a majority of my time in Israel trying to progress the peace process. People are ignorant and ignorance is the stem of the violence. The problem is, being a doctor is not my passion. My passion is in academia (medicine) but I fear that as an academia I will not make enough money to support myself in constantly traveling to Israel, starting an organization/foundation, buying books/pamphlets, etc. I have thought about a MD/Phd but I just don't know what to do. If I back out now and do a Ph.D my family will think I couldn't do it and opted for the easy way out. I'm stuck and down about this. Some advice would be appreciated. 😍🙂

The academic PhD route is currently saturated and very difficult to thrive in. It can be done. Medicine may be a better route and you can still do research with an MD.

 

[HondoCrouch]

Just peace in the middle east? Why not world peace while you're at it.

So you're going to solve the conflict in the middle east in your part time as a physician. Brilliant plan.

 

[MKA55]

Just peace in the middle east? Why not world peace while you're at it.

So you're going to solve the conflict in the middle east in your part time as a physician. Brilliant plan.

Haha, funny.

Add to that the fact that he is operating under the enormous and ill-informed assumption that the "measly and paltry task" of resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will spontaneously result in the resolution of the myriad of other age-old religious, clan-based, and ethnic rivalries and animosities that plague the Middle East. The notion that resolving the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict would have any noticeable effect on the rest of the Middle East is naive at best, delusional at worst...for example, it would have absolutely NO effect on sectarian violence due to the Sunni-Shia Schism, which predates the formation of the modern State of Israel by about 1300 YEARS!

Forgive the rant, but I have long believed that poorly-informed, poorly-planned interventions by deluded, self-aggrandizing, meddling simpletons who fool themselves into thinking they understand ancient, deep-rooted enmity are part of the reason that region of the world hates us westerners so much. I mean, come on, you're really implying that Israelis and Palestinians engaging each other for only the past 40 years in that tiny little heap of rubble called Gaza (about 17 square miles) is responsible for over a thousand years of warfare throughout all of the Middle East (encompassing millions of square miles, including Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Omar, Qatar, Yemen)? Utterly absurd.

Long story short, Hondocrouch is absolutely right...you have enough problems to worry about as a physician, without attempting to become a glorious statesmen pacifying a region populated by religious zealots that will most likely hate YOU even more than they hate each other. Focus on USMLE Step I.

 

[ppfizenm]

Haha, funny.

Add to that the fact that he is operating under the enormous and ill-informed assumption that the "measly and paltry task" of resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will spontaneously result in the resolution of the myriad of other age-old religious, clan-based, and ethnic rivalries and animosities that plague the Middle East. The notion that resolving the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict would have any noticeable effect on the rest of the Middle East is naive at best, delusional at worst...for example, it would have absolutely NO effect on sectarian violence due to the Sunni-Shia Schism, which predates the formation of the modern State of Israel by about 1300 YEARS!

Forgive the rant, but I have long believed that poorly-informed, poorly-planned interventions by deluded, self-aggrandizing, meddling simpletons who fool themselves into thinking they understand ancient, deep-rooted enmity are part of the reason that region of the world hates us westerners so much. I mean, come on, you're really implying that Israelis and Palestinians engaging each other for only the past 40 years in that tiny little heap of rubble called Gaza (about 17 square miles) is responsible for over a thousand years of warfare throughout all of the Middle East (encompassing millions of square miles, including Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Omar, Qatar, Yemen)? Utterly absurd.

Long story short, Hondocrouch is absolutely right...you have enough problems to worry about as a physician, without attempting to become a glorious statesmen pacifying a region populated by religious zealots that will most likely hate YOU even more than they hate each other. Focus on USMLE Step I.

This.

 

[pkwraith]

"I want to be a doctor, not because I want to make money for myself, not because its what I've wanted to do since I was a little kid but so I can do as much as I can for a conflict in the middle east that is the root of so much conflict these days"

" I want to be a doctor so I can donate a majority of my time in Israel trying to progress the peace process."

I have no idea of what you're talking about above.

The first implies that there's something about physician skill set that qualifies them for peace and conflict work.

The second implies that physicians have a lot of time to do "peace work."

Both implies that you think its common knowledge that physicians are uniquely able to contribute to non-medically related politics, which I don't believe to be true. It seems very disconnected and non sequitor to link Physicians and Middle East, so you're going to need to explain this, instead of relying on people to make the confusing connections you have going in your mind.