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Hi everyone,

I have been accepted into TCOM and I was hoping someone here could provide more insight into their curriculum. I have heard it is 9-5 classes with mandatory attendance.

I am a little concerned because most of what I read on here makes it seem like students skip classes and learn the material at home. Do you think that TCOM's all-day schedule still allows enough time to re-read through the material to fully understand it? Or does it just information overload all day and it becomes impossible to piece together. OR is the reason for their long days (as opposed to schools with only half day lectures) because they repeat the information and teach it effectively so that not as much independent studying is required?

I still don't understand how some schools have half day schedules and some have full days. Is it that one school only teaches half as much info or that the other school takes twice as long to teach it?
 
We definitely have a busy schedule. I found the 9-5 grind to be pretty overwhelming, personally. Luckily, all of your systems lectures are recorded. Attendance for your systems course lectures (which are probably 85-90% of your lectures) are "mandatory" but NOT enforced.

I stopped going to class about 6 weeks in and never looked back. If you're a person that gets a lot of out going to lecture, it's going to make for a busy day. Sitting through 3-4 hours of morning lecture, afternoon lectures/OMM lab/gross anatomy lab/interviewing/clinical medicine, and evening reviewing/dinner/personal time adds up fast.

If by re-reading you mean reviewing the notes you took from lecture on the PowerPoint slides, then yeah there's plenty of time. You will have the material presented in lecture but don't expect to see the same thing three/four/five times, they expect you to study outside of class to get it down. You will need to study independently.

TCOM definitely has a busy schedule. It seems like our weeks are busier than most schools and our school year is the longest of any Texas medical school. You just have to figure out a studying style that works for you.

Honestly, I had a pretty comfortable schedule by skipping class, listening to recorded lectures the same day/next morning at 1.5x speed, and taking excellent/thorough notes while listening. It's doable. Combine that with some board review sources and you'll be golden.
 
I skipped a ton of lectures myself and did fine. Only labs and exams are truly mandatory in the schedule.
 
I'd like to echo these same sentiments. Some people get something out of going to lectures, I certainly don't. My grades have improved drastically since I stopped going to lectures, but your mileage may vary. On exam days I have to use mapquest to find out how to get to campus (half serious).
 
just do it,good boy,had a pretty comfortable schedule by skipping class, listening to recorded lectures the same day/next morning at 1.5x speed, and taking excellent/thorough notes while listening. It's doable. Combine that with some board review sources and you'll be golden.thanks
b8em6w
 
just do it,good boy,had a pretty comfortable schedule by skipping class, listening to recorded lectures the same day/next morning at 1.5x speed, and taking excellent/thorough notes while listening. It's doable. Combine that with some board review sources and you'll be golden.thanks
b8em6w

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Ok, question for all of you at TCOM! So, by skipping only the lectures, how often are you in school then, on average, M-F?

I learn best at home, which is why I'm curious.
 
I'd say, on average, plan on spending a couple hours on campus because of the exams and labs and such. (Lecture attendance really varies depending on the professor, and drops off significantly after the 1st semester in most classes, once people get the hang of things.)
 
Hi everyone,

I have been accepted into TCOM and I was hoping someone here could provide more insight into their curriculum. I have heard it is 9-5 classes with mandatory attendance.

I am a little concerned because most of what I read on here makes it seem like students skip classes and learn the material at home. Do you think that TCOM's all-day schedule still allows enough time to re-read through the material to fully understand it? Or does it just information overload all day and it becomes impossible to piece together. OR is the reason for their long days (as opposed to schools with only half day lectures) because they repeat the information and teach it effectively so that not as much independent studying is required?

I still don't understand how some schools have half day schedules and some have full days. Is it that one school only teaches half as much info or that the other school takes twice as long to teach it?

Graduated from TCOM a few years ago and what people are telling you is generally true -- a few caveats tho --

1) You will be told that you have to do all of the reading, go to every class and then study about 4-5 hours a night plus preview lectures for the next day -- good luck with that.
2) Having said that, I was a pedantic schmuck back then (still am to a certain degree) and wanted to do everything I was told because I believed the lie that you might "miss something important". Not coming from a medical family, I had absolutely no guidance as to what the hell was important so I did EVERY reading assignment, even when I was reading just to check the box and say I had done it, rather than reading for education. I actually tried to memorize the reading at one point during anatomy.
3) I was the kind of guy that was always trying to find what worked effectively so I would ask others -- and learned what worked for them, but not for me. I was successful in undergrad because I read for understanding and took my time piecing things together -- why I abandoned that, I'll never know.
4) I had an upperclassmen give me a golden piece of advice but I really didn't get it -- but I do now, so here goes:
-- Get the most recent copy of First Aid for Step 1
-- Preview the section pertaining to the class you're in prior to that class starting.
-- Know that section of FA cold --
-- Go to Kinko's and have them remove the cover off the book, 3 hole punch it and then stick it in a binder so you can add PPTs/notes to this thing -- it will become your Step 1 study resource and exam study resource.
-- Bag going to class unless there's a quiz or exam -- or OMM - where you have to go to the lecture and lab that follows -- or anatomy labs
-- Listen to the lecture and take notes on the lectures covering the salient points in FA -- you will see those points again on an exam.
-- Add notes to enhance your understanding of the items outlined in FA that are explained in greater depth during the lecture.
-- Read around what you don't understand -- by that I mean, if you don't get something, then refer to resources that work for YOU -- not what the University recommends unless they happen to coincide.
-- Now -- only takes notes on what you don't already know, cold -- I didn't learn that and wasted precious time taking notes on things Ialready understood --
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Once you have this down -- and it will take a while to get a workable system -- then you should be able to:

1) Review FA at the start of class -- I would go to the first lecture for each class just to see if I could learn anything from the lecture style of the profs -- not likely though.
2) print the PPTs 6 to a page, double sided.
3) Listen to yesterday's lecture and take notes when you're the most productive.
4) When you find yourself drifting or getting mentally fatigued (usually after 4 hours or so) take a break and go workout, chase the opposite sex, do laundry, grocery shop, whatever for about 2 hours.
5) Come back and finish up the lectures and notes.
6) Break for dinner.....
7) Spend about 2 hours in the evening reading over the notes you took yesterday.

Wash, rinse, repeat -- towards the last few days of a major exam, I'd throw in practice questions daily from a good QBank (Kaplan has a good one for physiology - in second year, you purchase a Kaplan board prep with your tuition (at least you did when I was there) and have access to the QBank all year.....

You survive exam to exam. They tried pulling in exam questions from previous classes but it was all BS --

If you have to -- you can do this trick --

You can generally count on 2-3 questions per hour of lecture over a topic -- so do the math - X number of hours over anatomy, x number over phys, etc. and give a weighted score to what areas have the most test q's and thus the highest yield -- and focus your studying accordingly.....

Also, I benefited from a study partner on the weekends -- we just reviewed the material and tried to come up with likely test questions from each lecture...wish I had figured that one out earlier as we nailed a lot of the topics and even predicted a few of the questions.

Good luck ---
 
I seriously appreciate all of your advice guys!, I'm a excited wreck right now...Thanks!
 
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Relax. There is a buddy system to help incoming students. Be nice to your uppers and use them as a resource. There is also free tutoring available on campus. Use it if you need help understanding something. You will be assigned a faculty advisor - don't hesitate to ask them for guidance.

If you disagree with a question on an exam, speak up at the post-exam review and ask for clarification. It's an open forum with the course director, and it's always a good learning experience.
 
Relax. There is a buddy system to help incoming students. Be nice to your uppers and use them as a resource. There is also free tutoring available on campus. Use it if you need help understanding something. You will be assigned a faculty advisor - don't hesitate to ask them for guidance.

If you disagree with a question on an exam, speak up at the post-exam review and ask for clarification. It's an open forum with the course director, and it's always a good learning experience.

Agree with most -- watch the tutoring program -- the quality level varies -- I availed myself of the tutoring program early on -- Had one that made me study calendars with hours of time to spend "studying" a topic (never really emphasized how to approach the material in terms of what's high yield -- or anything else for that matter); Had another who waved their hands over the PPTs and said,"I remember a few questions from that one, a few from that one"; and a third who was a good student but who basically spent our time covering Robbins (went into pathology) by telling me,"You'll need to know that" as they flipped through pages of the chapter and then did some hand drawn diagrams at a very high level (no details) of the p53 pathway.....

It wasn't until I grabbed an upper level classmate who agreed to help out (turns out they were a tutor) - and before every exam, we met for 2 hours and went over all the material -- basically quizzed me for explanations over important topics and explained things I didn't get -- but then I figured out that I needed a study buddy and did that one on my own after the tutor went on to clinical rotations.

The administrators in the tutoring office at the time were pleasantly clueless -- they had no freakin' idea of how to mentor/tutor students and the impression I came away with was that they were there so the school could say that they offered tutoring....very low yield from that department.....

Also -- watch the disagreement with exam questions -- I have seen a prof slap a student down verbally for mispronunciation of a medication when they questioned an exam, stating that they were trying to save the student embarassment for mispronunciation on rounds -- no I'm not kidding.....

A word of warning -- TCOM used to be rife with "That's non-professional conduct" allegations -- it can get you called into the admin offices and begin "investigations" which can appear on your record. The major place this used to come up was during exam reviews where the students were asking sharp, pointed and uncomfortable questions of the profs; usually the profs were questionably wrong in their interpretation of the data but didn't want to admit it -- you'd get your first warning with a comment like,"Let's keep it respectful here"....that was your clue they wanted you to shut up -- if you or another student kept after it, it went to a sotte voce comment, usually by another faculty member of something like,"This is bordering on non-professional conduct".....which threw ice water on the fire....

Now, other students, usually MSGA, drunk with their "power" and "status", were really quick to identify anything they didn't agree with as "non-professional conduct".....I always thought it was funny that students whose only contact with a professional work force was saying,"Would you like fries with that" or "Welcome to JCPenney, how can I help you" were running around charging people with the dreaded "non-professional conduct".....

But yet we had an OMM fellow who showed up "professionally" dressed for OMM lab wearing skin tight (anatomy revealing tight) slacks with a slight bell bottom, thick soled Doc Marten lace up shoes, a skin tight, thin yellow dress shirt with the sleeves rolled up to the elbow, a poweder blue tie with a huge monkey paw knot causing the tie to hang down to just below the xiphoid process, a pencil line beard tha traced the jawline and a shock of ungroomed but heavily gel'd hair.....the female students actually complained regarding his choice of slacks, saying they were quite offensive...and he had just come from OMM clinic like that, seeing patients.....the message was Non-Professional conduct is in the eyes of the beholder....

Watch yourself...
 
Learned that TCOM will be having a new curriculum starting with the class of 2018. Anyone know if its going to be better or worse?
 
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