CV vs. Resume?

[BrookeFSU]

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Is a CV necessary for applying to retail? I would much rather to a simple resume, and I feel like retail wouldn't want something as extensive an a CV.

Right now I am planning on making a resume, but I may let your thoughts change my mind, if need be.

Thanks so much for your input.👍

 

[Jenny2009]

A one page resume is enough for retails and for most jobs.

 

[SHC1984]

When would you need a CV?

 

[homeslice]

When would you need a CV?

I would say academic positions, clinical/specialized positions, and most positions in large teaching hospitals. I'm sure there's others.

 

[Quiksilver]

i like cv's better, they can be over a page long and you don't have to worry as much about information to include/exclude. Its all relevant.

 

[iphetamine]

I know a lot of people tend to think CV and resume are both the same. But a resume is a short version of a CV, hence 1 page long. CV could be several pages long. It really depends on the job one's seeking.

 

[Ackj]

I know a lot of people tend to think CV and resume are both the same. But a resume is a short version of a CV, hence 1 page long. CV could be several pages long. It really depends on the job one's seeking.

Exactly, basically a resume is focused for a job. Take your full CV and extract what is most relevant to your application. If you're going for retail, put your retail experience, not your poster presentation about USP 797. On the contrary, for academia, you would put your research and publications, and maybe leave out some retail experiences.

Of course, being a student, we are often limited in our experiences, and there may be very little difference between our brief resume and full CV.

 

[Quiksilver]

Exactly, basically a resume is focused for a job. Take your full CV and extract what is most relevant to your application. If you're going for retail, put your retail experience, not your poster presentation about USP 797. On the contrary, for academia, you would put your research and publications, and maybe leave out some retail experiences.

Of course, being a student, we are often limited in our experiences, and there may be very little difference between our brief resume and full CV.

I think resume fits retail more. I would use a CV for anything else.

 

[type b pharmD]

I think resume fits retail more. I would use a CV for anything else.

I would think a CV would be inappropriate for anything except an academic position. Wouldnt it come off as rather pompous to anyone who is running a business?

 

[Ackj]

I would think a CV would be inappropriate for anything except an academic position. Wouldnt it come off as rather pompous to anyone who is running a business?

Academia, research, industry would definitely say CV because you want some way to prove that the person has done their share of related work. But I agree, coming into an interview for Wags or any other chain with THIS would be overkill (not that you would be trying to get a job there anyway with these qualifications).

 

[type b pharmD]

Academia, research, industry would definitely say CV because you want some way to prove that the person has done their share of related work. But I agree, coming into an interview for Wags or any other chain with THIS would be overkill (not that you would be trying to get a job there anyway with these qualifications).

For academic or research jobs (or specialized clinical jobs), I agree, but I would think industry businesspeople would be more concerned with your job history and applicable employment experiences than academic work and other "fluff" (more or less fluff for a job where your goal is to help run a business). I mean if you're being hired to research things , you should list your experience researching (ie all your academic work like a cv). But if you're being hired to customer service etc you'd probably want to list your employment skills related to these areas of running a drug business. Like job experiences, and things you can bring to the table as far as practical matters. People who are practical dont want a long laundry list of all the academic things you've been part of..

Recently I was hired as an intern for a fortune top 25 company (non retail, non hospital). When I was applying, I debated adding a list of academic things i've been involved in to my resume, but decided to only list work experience and skills learned through some of my work related projects. Kept it to one succinct page. At the interview, the hiring manager asked if there was anything not on my resume I wanted to contribute. I mentioned that there were some academic things I left off and I wasnt sure if he cared or not, and he said he figured if I was a pharmacy student I was good at academics and that he was more concerned with what I could bring to a real workplace.

Just a little anecdote . Not sure if this would play out the same way with real pharmacist hiring as compared to interns, but it is an attitude I suspect is relatively common in the healthcare industry just as it is in most other industries.

I like resumes better. The are quicker and more to the point, easier to read, and more high impact. Also more fun to write, since if you limit to a page you get to put only your best stuff down.

 

[Hels2007]

In industry, only research positions will want to see your CV. Maybe (and it's a bit maybe) some positions on the medical side as well. However, anything on the commercial side- forget about submitting a long document, it will go straight into the nearest recycling bin. If you cannot focus, why would we want you?

 

[SHC1984]

I would say academic positions, clinical/specialized positions, and most positions in large teaching hospitals. I'm sure there's others.

How about industry jobs? CV or resume?

 

[Quiksilver]

For academic or research jobs (or specialized clinical jobs), I agree, but I would think industry businesspeople would be more concerned with your job history and applicable employment experiences than academic work and other "fluff" (more or less fluff for a job where your goal is to help run a business). I mean if you're being hired to research things , you should list your experience researching (ie all your academic work like a cv). But if you're being hired to customer service etc you'd probably want to list your employment skills related to these areas of running a drug business. Like job experiences, and things you can bring to the table as far as practical matters. People who are practical dont want a long laundry list of all the academic things you've been part of..

Recently I was hired as an intern for a fortune top 25 company (non retail, non hospital). When I was applying, I debated adding a list of academic things i've been involved in to my resume, but decided to only list work experience and skills learned through some of my work related projects. Kept it to one succinct page. At the interview, the hiring manager asked if there was anything not on my resume I wanted to contribute. I mentioned that there were some academic things I left off and I wasnt sure if he cared or not, and he said he figured if I was a pharmacy student I was good at academics and that he was more concerned with what I could bring to a real workplace.

Just a little anecdote . Not sure if this would play out the same way with real pharmacist hiring as compared to interns, but it is an attitude I suspect is relatively common in the healthcare industry just as it is in most other industries.

I like resumes better. The are quicker and more to the point, easier to read, and more high impact. Also more fun to write, since if you limit to a page you get to put only your best stuff down.

at the same time, 1 page is not enough to mention relevant past jobs and positions, awards, publications, degrees/certificates, education. I have used a CV on every job I have applied for and had no issues. I worked for a major retail chain, I work for a top 10 cancer hospital currently and i do research as well. I also used a CV at my pharmacy school interview.

 

[type b pharmD]

at the same time, 1 page is not enough to mention relevant past jobs and positions, awards, publications, degrees/certificates, education. I have used a CV on every job I have applied for and had no issues. I worked for a major retail chain, I work for a top 10 cancer hospital currently and i do research as well. I also used a CV at my pharmacy school interview.

Those are mostly academic jobs there... and you're telling me you used a 2+ page document to apply for a retail intern position?? (i sure hope it wasnt a tech position).

Top 10 cancer hospital -- It is more or less an academic setting, pharmacists and administrators probably came from an academic background. I can understand this.

And pharmacy school interview is entirely within the academic system, so of course you would use a CV.

 

[Quiksilver]

Those are mostly academic jobs there... and you're telling me you used a 2+ page document to apply for a retail intern position?? (i sure hope it wasnt a tech position).

Top 10 cancer hospital -- It is more or less an academic setting, pharmacists and administrators probably came from an academic background. I can understand this.

And pharmacy school interview is entirely within the academic system, so of course you would use a CV.

Yeah I used it in a retail position which ironically I got hired, despite having a 3 page CV. So you can laugh and say it was overkill but it worked for me. It worked in the 3 areas that I have worked in. I don't necessarily give a crap what you use when you get out there, I'm sharing my experience but since you are so wise beyond your years I will refrain from doing it in the future. Dick.

Personally I think CVs show more, but then again if you don't have that much to show, I can understand how one can be sided in this argument.

my administrators didn't come from an academic background....sorry.

 

[Hels2007]

Yeah I used it in a retail position which ironically I got hired, despite having a 3 page CV.

I will tell you a dirty little secret - resume or CV has very little to do with retail intern hiring. 😀 No, people look at it in passing - but details do not matter. It's what hours are available and what skills you have and whether you fit in.

 

[KARM12]

Can we please stop spreading the rumor that a resume can only be one page in length? You can extend to a second page if your experience actually warrents this. I wouldn't put crap on it, but I would make sure I include all relevant information.

 

[Hels2007]

Can we please stop spreading the rumor that a resume can only be one page in length? You can extend to a second page if your experience actually warrents this. I wouldn't put crap on it, but I would make sure I include all relevant information.

For most people with work experience resume is two pages. 🙂

 

[StaviZFingerZ]

If I'm reviewing your CV...then be prepared to give me the presentation you claimed to have given... because if it's interesting enough, I will pick your brain about it.

I prefer resume' as it's concise and tells me the work you've done. I guess CV is necessary for Academia, residency, or fellowship/research type of jobs.

 

[StaviZFingerZ]

For most people with work experience resume is two pages. 🙂

Only if I use font 5.

 

[Hels2007]

Only if I use font 5.

It just means you can't edit. 😛 Attachment to once written words is a common, but curable disorder. 😀

Because I have two completely unrelated careers and have done a few different things, I thought I can't get it down to two pages. But I could. Though I do keep a third page appendix - for stuff that I can force myself to part with, but which is NOT relevant to the options I am pursuing at the moment.