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I recently took DAT second time and got 22+ on Bio, GChem, & Ochem part. It is an improvement of 4 points average than the 1st DAT on all the science. However, because I was so worry about the science and didn't focus on the PAT and reading, so I got 17s for those sections. No interviews yet, so I'm thinking of taking it a 3rd time to improve the PAT and reading part to get ready for the next cycle. What do you guys think?
 

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I think it might be a mistake to take it a third time.

It's not easy to score higher than a 22, but your scores could easily drop from a 22. PAT isn't that important to most schools, so a 17 isn't a big deal. It's your call, but my feeling is that you may not have gotten interviews if your 2nd set of DAT scores didn't get into the schools early enough. When did you retake the DATs?

If you retook it now, it's probably too late for this cycle anyway, I would just hold out for next cycle and reapply with the same 2nd DAT scores.
 

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I wouldn't retake it...getting a 22+ isn't easy to do once, let alone twice. 17 PAT wont hurt you...the 17 rc might cause a little hesitation, but I think your high science scores should make up for it. if you haven't gotten any interviews yet, i'm sure it isn't b/c of your DAT. Might be b/c of something else on your app, or maybe you applied later than you should..but I think overall your DAT should be acceptable. Just my opinion. If you feel you can do better a 3rd time, then by all means go for it. best of luck!
 
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but guys its the end of February and he hasn't landed an interview yet even with a 22, its like on the MCAT where ppl get 33 and then they have a 7 in the English part and really high in the parts that don't matter. PAT is very important for many schools and aside from the English section its one of the most significant sections.
 

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but guys its the end of February and he hasn't landed an interview yet even with a 22, its like on the MCAT where ppl get 33 and then they have a 7 in the English part and really high in the parts that don't matter. PAT is very important for many schools and aside from the English section its one of the most significant sections.

How long ago did you take the DAT, with an AA of 22, and a PAT of 17 you should be golden.
 

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how the heck did you not get an interview with 22s? did you kill someone or what? those are higher than the national average. btw, does your score on the dat replace the one you took earlier, which means they dont go by the highest score but the most recentone?
 

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I took my DATs in early January for the first time, and although my gpa is not particularly high, I think I'm a pretty good applicant otherwise. It's really hard to get schools to look at you when they get scores so late. I'm sill wishin' and hopin' tho. All I need is that one acceptance.... ;)
 

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I took my DATs in early January for the first time, and although my gpa is not particularly high, I think I'm a pretty good applicant otherwise. It's really hard to get schools to look at you when they get scores so late. I'm sill wishin' and hopin' tho. All I need is that one acceptance.... ;)

dont worry ur golden!!!
 

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Thanks for the opinions guys. I retook it in first week of Feb, it's probably why I didn't hear anything good yet. I don't think my reading skill is at ESL level because my reading speed average is around 300wpm. It's probably the inefficient test taking skill or imprudent strategy on the reading that cost me. I'm wondering if the schools prejudge or look negatively upon just because the student takes the test a 3rd time?
 

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Thanks for the opinions guys. I retook it in first week of Feb, it's probably why I didn't hear anything good yet. I don't think my reading skill is at ESL level because my reading speed average is around 300wpm. It's probably the inefficient test taking skill or imprudent strategy on the reading that cost me. I'm wondering if the schools prejudge or look negatively upon just because the student takes the test a 3rd time?

It would be in your best interest, if you took it for the 3rd time, for it to be your last. The ADA makes you jump through loops if you take it more than 3 times by requiring rejection letters and a letter form a pre-health adviser. Also, dental school admin would think that you weren't taking the test seriously, and was just trying to luck up on a good score.
 

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It would be in your best interest, if you took it for the 3rd time, for it to be your last. The ADA makes you jump through loops if you take it more than 3 times by requiring rejection letters and a letter form a pre-health adviser. Also, dental school admin would think that you weren't taking the test seriously, and was just trying to luck up on a good score.

I'm contemplating about it whether or not I can still get it above 22 on my 3rd attempt along w/ improving the PAT and reading. If I do take it, it will have to be my last time cause I'm sick of trying and not seeing any positive confirmation.
 

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I'm contemplating about it whether or not I can still get it above 22 on my 3rd attempt along w/ improving the PAT and reading. If I do take it, it will have to be my last time cause I'm sick of trying and not seeing any positive confirmation.

but you said you imrpoved by 4 points - that's huge!

maybe you should talk to the admissions ppl at some schools you're applying to and ask them what they think. I did that and was told my scores were great and that I don't need to retake unanimously. If you get that from a few adcoms then I think you should stick with your score on 2. how was your RC and Pat on your first try?
 

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If you don't get in this cycle, why not take it again...
a 20/20 (~90th/96-7th) is more well rounded than a 22/17 (~95th/80th? percentile).
How much more could a couple of classes boost your GPA? (unless you had like a 2.2 science and made 3 A's in bio classes)

Like yourself, i took 2 kaplan courses and studied only the sciences. I didn't get a 22 but i was happy w/ my score (enough so that i didn't have to take it again)
My gpa isn't that great either
But applying early (june-july) helps

I didn't find the studying process that rigorous, but if you hated studying for the DAT, don't take it again. If you didn't mind studying and feel like you can do better... take it again.

But remember that taking it many times is frowned upon (right?)

Just wait, classes aren't filled until the first day anyways.
 
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if you have a high gpa, i dont think you should worry too much. if not, the RC can be an eyebrow raiser. quite a dilemma you are in.
 

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a 17 QR is no ig deal if everything else is 20+ right?
 

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I didn't find the studying process that rigorous, but if you hated studying for the DAT, don't take it again. If you didn't mind studying and feel like you can do better... take it again.

But remember that taking it many times is frowned upon (right?)

Just wait, classes aren't filled until the first day anyways.

I agree with this. don't know if I'd say a 20s all around is all that much better than 22s and 17s.
 

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I have a good idea and because I know the most in the forum you should follow:
:D

When you apply next cycle (in the chance you don't get in) apply with your current scores. Apply to take the DAT but don't have your scores sent out to any schools. In other words, when you are supposed to check schools to have your DAT sent to, don't check anything. You can always add schools later.

So your current scores goes out ight away May 15th and then when you retake the DAT (considering you do better) you simply send in the new score right away. If you do worse, the schools never know (CONSIDERING YOU GET IN NEXT CYCLE) If you dont then your most curent score is sent out. So if you go this route....MAKE SURE YOU DO BETTER!

good luck
 

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I have a good idea and because I know the most in the forum you should follow:
:D

When you apply next cycle (in the chance you don't get in) apply with your current scores. Apply to take the DAT but don't have your scores sent out to any schools. In other words, when you are supposed to check schools to have your DAT sent to, don't check anything. You can always add schools later.

So your current scores goes out ight away May 15th and then when you retake the DAT (considering you do better) you simply send in the new score right away. If you do worse, the schools never know (CONSIDERING YOU GET IN NEXT CYCLE) If you dont then your most curent score is sent out. So if you go this route....MAKE SURE YOU DO BETTER!

good luck
thanks for the great backup plan :thumbup:
 

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I took the DAT 3 times....I know its crazy but first time I got really low in reading, second time I got low in BIO....3rd time (2.5 months ago) I got my dream score :)))

Its a lot of work but I think it worth it....
 

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I think you should take the DAT as many times as needed tlll you have a 29 or 30. I hear if you take it 10 times the system just gives up and gives you a 30 but I am not sure. live and learn.

22 is excellent dude forget it
 

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You're very welcome. Best of luck to you this year as you still have a chance!

Make sure to check out more at DMDsudent.com and sign up for the email list for automatic updates.

Done. Nice site. I love them dental pictures that you have on there. You should include it your forum signature so that you don't skip out the "t".
 

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I have a good idea and because I know the most in the forum you should follow:
:D

When you apply next cycle (in the chance you don't get in) apply with your current scores. Apply to take the DAT but don't have your scores sent out to any schools. In other words, when you are supposed to check schools to have your DAT sent to, don't check anything. You can always add schools later.

So your current scores goes out ight away May 15th and then when you retake the DAT (considering you do better) you simply send in the new score right away. If you do worse, the schools never know (CONSIDERING YOU GET IN NEXT CYCLE) If you dont then your most curent score is sent out. So if you go this route....MAKE SURE YOU DO BETTER!

good luck

Can you do that the first time you take your DAT? Who do you notify later if you change your mind and you want your scores sent out???
 
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