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After 2x re-scheduling I finally took the exam.

Started studying tiny amount of gchem during school year. Like maybe 1day/week. Not much really. Didn't really start studying until school ended in May. Even then I only watched like 1-2 of Chad's vid a day. Or read like 2-3 chapters of cliffs with some breaks in between. I like chem, o chem, and human bio. Also helps I take upper level bio and chem classes for my major. So they are pretty fresh for me. The last 2 weeks I studied for most of the day though.


Topscore practice exams 1/2/3

AA 23/23/22
BIO 21/19/17 (last one had too much taxonomy stuff I didn't study yet).
GC 28/28/25
OC 20/25/28
PAT 21/21/21
QR 22/21/20
RC 23/21/21
TS 22/22/21

-I bought achiever, but didn't do the full tests because I ran out of time. I only did 1 bio test and got 21.
I looked through the rest of the questions and only looked up the answer to the ones where I was like hmm what's this?

-Got CDP, scores were like 19,22,21 and then some more 21's. Only did 7 tests not the full 10.
-Did the pay ada exam and kaplan blue book exam. Scores were similar to topscore.

Overall the exam was kind of easy.

BIO:
Really basic. Most questions I got wrong were probably about taxonomy or something. I like human bio stuff. I took upper level bio classes and just took anatomy and physiology so we covered most of the stuff in there. Only stuff I was rusty was on evolution, ecology, taxonomy, and maybe some plant stuff. I didn't memorize any taxonomy stuff until the night before or maybe 2 nights before. I only memorized major classes that I saw questions about in topscore. Like about amoebas or which class can regenerate limbs. Some of the descriptions in cliffs are like "brown algae - they are photosynthetic (not sure if true just making it up)" I didn't bother memorizing those, that does not tell me anything. It made it seem unimportant. Kaplan BB also gives better descriptions of some of the stuff than in Cliffs. Like Cliffs doesn't mention anything about regererating limbs in echinodermata.

Like on the exam they asked me some taxonomy, so good I looked at it. But I only knew basics. When they asked something about insects, I didn't memorize the big bilateral, deuterosome table in cliffs. All I knew was like insects have jointed appendages so thats what I picked. Couldn't really weed the answers out on those and just kind of guessed. Could have memorized more taxonomy stuff.

Bio questions were really basic and easy, but they don't ask you the question directly like what is the name of this? They give you an example like "in a lab it was found that so and so... so what does this mean?" It was still easy.

For this I read cliff's 1-2x and ecology, evolution I focused on memorizing more. Read alan's notes. Did destroyer. Destroyer was really detailed and those 1,2, or all of the above answers made it hard.

GC
I like chemistry. Can you tell? It helps that I like chemistry and that I take upper level ones for my major. So it is fresh. Watched chad's videos maybe 1-2 a day. Then read kaplan BB then did destroyer. Got most of the questions on destroyer my first time through. Then I went through the answers and saw what I got wrong. Didn't go over it a second time.

OC
I like OC too. I thought OC and GC would be my two highest scores 24+. Not really sure what I got wrong. Some questions I was like what shouldn't there be an extra carbon? Thought the answer choices were wrong, but maybe I was just not familiar with that reaction. I watched's chad's videos then did destroyer. Also got most of the questions right the first time through. Then went through the answers. Read first couple of chapters of kaplan BB then skimmed rest since I thought I got most of the stuff down.

I also looked at the summaries and reactions at the end of chapters in my o chem book. Didn't focus on proteins much or carbs. Just knew D, L, what proteins look like at different pHs, mutarotation, etc.

I had some IR and NMR questions. I only remembered OH, C=O and C-O peaks in IR from when I took the class. In NMR I only knew how to do peak splitting and what downfield means. I watched chad's IR video the day before the exam. Didn't really prepare for it. Was feeling confident in my answers on the exam, but they could have been wrong. Could have prepared more for IR.

Though I did better in this section.

QR:
Did math destroyer. The first 4 tests. I didn't remember any trigonometry except soh, cah, toa. They had some questions that needed the unit circle but I didn't memorize it so I guessed. I have not taken trig since in high school. I also did not take precalc and skipped straight to ap calc in high school. In uni, I did calc I and II. I would rather have derivatives and integrating than trig.

Math destroyer was similar to the exam. I mean really similar. You should get it.

On the exam. I did all of the easy questions first. I had like 8 marked when I finished. I had like 15 minutes left when I went through it the first time. Then I went back and did the harder ones and word problems. I was a little worried with this section because I wasn't sure how many formulas or trigonometry stuff I needed to know and didn't spend much time memorizing it. I was hoping for 18+. So a 21 is good. I only started preparing for this about a week before the exam.

I only knew the area of square, circle, circumference, area of triangle, volume of cylinder, yards, miles, oz, temperature, etc. I didn't memorize the other ones like for the unit circle or trapezoids in the kaplan book.

The calculator did not lag. I used it a lot. It really helped. The calculator doesn't do exponents do except for square root. So if you wanna square something you have to do like 10 x 10.

PAT
I thought I did better. I got 21's on most cdp tests. The percentile is meh on here. The real test was easier than most of the exams I took too. On cdp I only got like 6 to 8 out of 15 angles right. I didn't have a strategy for it. I did the hill method, but if they make the angles upside down or twisted, I can't use it. Everything else I got like 12-13 out of 15 on cdp. When I first started doing TFE I was like what? After like 2 exams, it was easier just comparing lines and stuff.

The real exam:
TFE only like 1-3 here I wasn't sure about. It was one of my worst sections when studying at first, but easily got better at it.

Keyholes were easy.
Cubes were easy. There was not many cubes to count either. I did the grid method.
Angles some were easy and big difference and others were hard like CDP. No strategy for angles so I just picked what I thought and guessed. Probably got the most wrong in here.

Hole punches were easy too. Not like in cdp where they fold a triangle and then into a square and its all confusing. Some of the questions on the real exam, I was like how do you fold it like that? The folds did not make sense. I will post example from the sample ada later maybe.

Pattern folding was easy too. They used some of the questions where some sides are shaded and some aren't, but not many sides were shaded and it was not as confusing as cdp. Cdp was harder.

RC:
I don't like to read much. When I read textbooks for class I read slowly and take my time. I didn't feel I was doing too good on reading when I was taking the exam. Like questions were like "what statement best states the purpose of this essay" I was I dno, two of these sound good to me. Wasn't really sure if I was picking the right ones.

I started looking at the first 2-3 questions. Then I would read the first 5 paragraphs. After that I would just read the first sentence or skim the rest. Then I would kind of have an idea where to look and try answering questions. Sometimes I couldn't find what they are talking about so I skimmed the essay from the beginning really fast.



Other stuff.
simple jack - I went to eat something at hooters.
I was typing this and it logged me out so I had to re type it.
I like reading the posts here as most of the time they are the trick questions. Doing the trick ones gives the best practice.
Exam I had plenty of time to finish. Like for the sciences I had like 30+ min extra. Pat maybe like 5 min. RC was the only one I used the full time limit on.


I go to a state uni. My gpa is "high."
Was hoping for 23-24, but am happy with what I got.

Feels good to be done.
 
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The man has to eat and maybe have a quickly with girl to celebrate, but still it is taking too long.
 
huskk- My 22AA was 97th% too. i dont think it really matters! at least we GOT a 22! woo

and congrats undergradguy! awesome job!!!!!!!
 
Way to go dude. You always seemed like you knew what you were talking about on here! Could you post those weird folds for the hole punch in the next couple days? I've gotten pretty good at them on CDP, but if I have to figure out a whole new 'fold style' it's going to burn a few more seconds than I'd like 😉
 
Congrats! I knew you would do well as you are always so active on here! 😀 Where are you planning on applying?
 
Congrats Bro!!! Great Score.
Do you have your pay ADA test kit up for grabs?
Please do let me know.
Thanks
 
great scores!!!
im taking mine friday and freaking out about all the converstions ml-->oz -->gal-->L did you get a lot of those on qr?
 
great scores!!!
im taking mine friday and freaking out about all the converstions ml-->oz -->gal-->L did you get a lot of those on qr?

Only had these...
I only knew the area of square, circle, circumference, area of triangle, volume of cylinder, yards, miles, temperature. I didn't memorize other ones like for the unit circle or trapezoids in the kaplan book. But I did have questions that needed the unit circle and specific triangles.


Congrats Bro!!! Great Score.
Do you have your pay ADA test kit up for grabs?
Please do let me know.
Thanks

I do have the pay ada exam for sale. Was going to list it soon. Did not write in it. Send me PM.
 
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my 22 AA was 96.4 percentile. what the heck?

I know it's been asked countless times, but is percentile being compared to those who took that same version? Or is it in comparison of the same day?

The same day comparison would only make sense if there are no true test versions, but only random tests with random questions pulled from the question bank. In that case, percentile wouldn't mean much. If there are actual test versions, percentiles would be more meaningful.

How does my 21AA (97.2 percentile) compare to the previous posters 22AA (96.4 percentile)?

The answer is probably who cares. Try your hardest on the dat, and worry more about having a great application and interview prep.
 
Here is a pic from the sample ada exam about a pat problem that does not make sense.

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/1615/imag0001copy.jpg

Why is there a line in the 3rd box? The second box and the third box is the same size and does not look like it was folded at all. All it did was make a line?

Maybe it's easy and I am just confused. But I have no idea what kind of fold that is.
 
Here is a pic from the sample ada exam about a pat problem that does not make sense.

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/1615/imag0001copy.jpg

Why is there a line in the 3rd box? The second box and the third box is the same size and does not look like it was folded at all. All it did was make a line?

Maybe it's easy and I am just confused. But I have no idea what kind of fold that is.

I think it's like this: you can see on the second fold you get four layers of paper. if you refold two layers back up, you'll get the third fold. You can try folding on a piece of paper too 🙂

I think the answer should be C... am I correct?
 
I think it's like this: you can see on the second fold you get four layers of paper. if you refold two layers back up, you'll get the third fold. You can try folding on a piece of paper too 🙂

I think the answer should be C... am I correct?

Yes! I didn't see it until you said it-- very smart.
 
Awesome score Undergradguy!! Thanks for the break down and always being so active in this forum too! 🙂 Mine is in 13 days...ahhh.
 
Pattern folding was easy too. They used some of the questions where some sides are shaded and some aren't, but not many sides were shaded and it was not as confusing as cdp. Cdp was harder.

I have difficulty w/ SHADED pattern folding... I have CDP and i keep getting 6-7s.. any suggestions??
 
Most of the time you can eliminate 2 sides right away... like here...

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First you gotta find the "main side" that we will use for reference. Here its the L shape side.

Just by looking at the left hand L shape in the pattern you can eliminate 2 choices. Notice the "L side" pattern has the bottom part shaded and its pointing to the left.

Choice A its pointing to the right. So you can right away see its wrong (green arrows).

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Choice C does not even exist with that kind of shading pattern on the L (orange box).

Only 2 left are C and D.
Then just pick 1 side next to the reference side. Lets look at the bottom of the figure (blue arrows). It has to be blank white. Obviously D is the only possible 1.


Yea this was kind of an easy example. But you can do this for almost everything. In crack dat pat they have harder examples where they shade like every other side and have some weird figure.

The real dat did not have as many sides shaded. Only like 2-3 boxes would be shaded. Like 1 question, the boxes were side by side so I just looked at the answer and picked the one where they were all side by side. Didn't even have to try to picture it in my head. There wasn't any really hard ones like in crack dat pat.

Just practice with crack dat pat. After like 5 exams you should be feeling good about most of the sections.
 
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