DAT scores vs. Mcat

[joooj86]

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i dont know if you will make a joke out of this now, but i just need a way to explain to someone the DAT scores in a way they will understand. taking into consideration dental schools and medical schools, and the competition. not necessarily what equals what, but what is a DAT score "in terms"-relating to averages, scores required to be admitted etc.- compared to an Mcat score. With this given, what would a 17,18,19,20,21 be in terms of Mcat scores do you think?--no this is not a QR question that Kaplan gives u for practice

 

[souperman]

DAT gives % with scores. So someting like a 22 in Bio could be in the 92 percentile.

 

[joooj86]

hmm, so does anyone know if i wanna do 20 Dat score->DAt percentile = Mcat percentile -> Mcat score =????, maybe with an 18 and a 19...anyone , any clue??..thanks

 

[ecdoesit]

the two tests are totally different.
one is a recall test
the other one is analytical.

if u know ur stuff well, then u will get high DAT score
may not be the case the other way around.

so it is hard to set a corelation

 

[Gulch]

gray davis was a dillweed

 

[onetoothleft]

i dont know if you will make a joke out of this now, but i just need a way to explain to someone the DAT scores in a way they will understand. taking into consideration dental schools and medical schools, and the competition. not necessarily what equals what, but what is a DAT score "in terms"-relating to averages, scores required to be admitted etc.- compared to an Mcat score. With this given, what would a 17,18,19,20,21 be in terms of Mcat scores do you think?--no this is not a QR question that Kaplan gives u for practice

This is a bad thread waiting to happen . . . but i can't resist posting. Each test as mentioned above is very different, so there is no real way to compare, even section to section. Plus percentiles vs scores change from test to test, especially for the DAT. In my experience here is an estimation:

percentile DAT score MCAT Score
50% 17 24
70% 18 27
85% 19 29
90% 20 32
95% 21 34
97% 22 36
99% 23 38

Note that the MCAT tends to have a larger, slightly more competitive cohort of test takers. I scored with a higher %-ile (as did most I have talked to) on the DAT.

Disclaimer: I should not have answered this post . . . it was a flamin' waiting to happen . . . and these are clearly just rough estimates.

 

[wammmy]

This is a bad thread waiting to happen . . . but i can't resist posting. Each test as mentioned above is very different, so there is no real way to compare, even section to section. Plus percentiles vs scores change from test to test, especially for the DAT. In my experience here is an estimation:

percentile DAT score MCAT Score
50% 17 24
70% 18 27
85% 19 29
90% 20 32
95% 21 34
97% 22 36
99% 23 38

Note that the MCAT tends to have a larger, slightly more competitive cohort of test takers. I scored with a higher %-ile (as did most I have talked to) on the DAT.

Disclaimer: I should not have answered this post . . . it was a flamin' waiting to happen . . . and these are clearly just rough estimates.

You are a brave, brave man. 😕

 

[bor0000]

onetooth, why should you not have answered?? this is useful information. and i'd be curious even about more specific info, like if you break up both mcat and dat by individual sections. and if you say that mcat is more competitive, there is also nothing to flame about. i dont see why anybody with interesting questions/answers should be sorry, while some insecure losers try to twist their statements into flames.

 

[r0entgen]

onetooth, why should you not have answered?? this is useful information. and i'd be curious even about more specific info, like if you break up both mcat and dat by individual sections. and if you say that mcat is more competitive, there is also nothing to flame about. i dont see why anybody with interesting questions/answers should be sorry, while some insecure losers try to twist their statements into flames.

i don't even know what the point of this post is...they are 2 very different tests...and the people taking the tests are also very different...

i'm not saying dental students are dumber or anything, cuz i'm also a pre-dental student...but note the average gpas of accepted med-school students, and compare those to that of dental students...

basically, what i'm saying is, if you compare the 90th percentile for med students vs. the 90th percentile for dental students, i don't think there'll really be a correlation in intelligence or anything of the sort..

as one person said, the dat is purely a recall test...anyone can recall if they put enough time into it...

 

[stoshic]

I"d love to see the number of people you used to get those numbers... n=?

 

[stoshic]

This scale is terrible...

 

[joooj86]

i know they are two different tests, but think of it this way, you need to achieve certain percentiles to be admitted to either. i mean that is the measure for adcoms to make a decision. Regardless of what each test is testing you have to get certain scores to be admitted. So there is a correlation based on the percentiles. Ex. 90% of any of these tests will be admitted to med/dent school---i hope so at least..to some extent it is true. so why not have a comparision, i think its a pretty interesting thing for many ppl. i have no experience in neither so if anyone has feedback on the numbers that were provided

 

[DrBowtie]

38-45 on the MCAT is 99%

 

[DICK]

38-45 on the MCAT is 99%

i know someone who scored a 35, that's good, huh?

 

[DrBowtie]

http://www.aamc.org/students/mcat/examineedata/table0405.pdf
Here is the data from the latest MCAT

 

[psiyung]

i know someone who scored a 35, that's good, huh?

trollie, a 35 is damn good. I studied for that mother for 2 months and scored a 33. Studied for the dat foe 2-3 weeks and got a 23.

 

[joooj86]

thats a nice chart..anyone knows if it exists and where ? for the DATs...thanks

 

[stoshic]

that chart is terrible. people who do around average on MCAT would be in the higher percentiles of the DAT.

 

[bor0000]

i looked at the chart for mcat, and it seems that a score like 39 is same as a 1600 on sat. and yet on the premed board there is someone complaining that he got rejected by every single medschool with a 39. he had <3.0gpa, but if he had a 3.2 he mightve been considered by some lower tier medschools. that is very disappointing. ive been looking forward to my dat, hoping that if i get a 25+ with something like a 3.3-3.4gpa i could be as competitive as someone with a 22 and a 3.8, but in fact, i doubt any score may help me🙁

 

[bor0000]

i wish that something like 3.4 and 25dat could guarantee an interview at any school.

 

[bor0000]

that chart is terrible. people who do around average on MCAT would be in the higher percentiles of the DAT.

even assuming that is correct, i dont see how it is relevant-nobody claims that the test-takers for the test are the same.

on the other hand i can tell you that an average person taking mcat most likely wouldnt even break a 1400 on the sat, because he's just average. on the other hand the top 1% at any test should be fairly bright.

 

[miravyn]

i know someone who scored a 35, that's good, huh?

This girl in my biochem lab got a score of 38S. Pretty good, huh?

 

[LakersNation]

I've unfortunately had the pleasure of taking both the DAT and the MCAT... they are strangely similar for supposedly being "completely different" tests. Got a 24 on the DAT and a 39 on the MCAT. That scale seems somewhat accurate based on my findings.

 

[BabyShades]

15 AA DAT and I made a 39 on MCAT. I am going to medical school!!!

 

[DoctorSynthesis]

15 AA DAT and I made a 39 on MCAT. I am going to medical school!!!

I don't believe that.

My friends who are pre dent all did well on DAT. Friends who are pre med even though they have similar grades had varying MCAT scores.

 

[Blake1e]

I've unfortunately had the pleasure of taking both the DAT and the MCAT... they are strangely similar for supposedly being "completely different" tests. Got a 24 on the DAT and a 39 on the MCAT. That scale seems somewhat accurate based on my findings.

I feel your pain bro, before I figured out what I wanted to do w/ my life I was pressured into taking an entire summer of Kaplan MCAT courses. And I wouldve taken the actual exam were it not for the fact my laziness is immovable when a task doesnt seem worth the effort. Great scores and great decision on going into dentistry instead of med, the latter career path is no longer as great as it used to be.

15 AA DAT and I made a 39 on MCAT. I am going to medical school!!!

If memory serves Im pretty sure the DAT is a little easier. If you actually were in this situation Id suggest you take the DAT again cuz the alternative is full of suckiness. Id also suggest you get some strong coffee and for you to take your meds cuz the disparity in scores suggest you either fell asleep during the DAT or your mind snapped in half.

 

[dentalWorks]

original thread is 2005 guys lol

 

[Tmoneymaj]

Unfortunately I took both test as well and I would say they are wayyyyy different! The DAT score is a reflection of how much time and studying you put into your test. The MCAT you must prepare for but it is all analytical and the amount of time isn't always a reflection of your score. Im not going to say my score but I can tell you that the conversion scale created above did not match my MCAT score.