Dazed and Confused - or maybe just burned out

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pianoman511

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For the past year I have been taking upper level undergrad classes to help boost my pathetic undergrad GPA (2.9). With a 27Q MCAT, things are not looking up. My problem is that I am feeling a bit burned out. I work two part time jobs (to be able to take extra classes and feed myself at the same time). It definitely feels like a dead end road. For the fall, I am faced with a dilemma. To continue the current path and take more undergrad classes, or to do a one year program for paramedic school to hopefully give me enough income that I wouldn't have to work two different jobs (have been an EMT for 4 years now). However, I worry that taking that one year break will further hurt my chances to get in to med school. :scared:
What does everyone think ? 😕
HELP !!!! 😱
 
Why don't you take a year off so that you can focus on dominating some of those post-bacc classes while taking out some educational loans to fund it?
 
you gotta do somethin different bro. whether its studying harder or taking time off or whatever, i'm in the same boat as you and i can tell you that without close to a 4.0 for a couple of semesters or more that 2.9 will stagnate and then become stuck because of the amount of credits it will take to move it up. good luck--ben.
 
The morale factor is a huge thing in this non-trad game. Although the thought of giving up has never crossed my mind, the monotony, expensive, and apparent "stagnation" of doing an informal post-bacc can really bring a person down. One doesn't earn a degree, or achieve any guarantee that they'll get into med school in an informal post-bacc nor are we eligible for any type of financial aid.

Well the truth is, one needs money to pay for school, and live. Whether it be through loans or work, one needs to find funding sources. Going to work to pay for school is one thing, but can be outright insane at the post-bacc level. Minimal time is provided to get A's in multiple classes. Even if one gets ONLY A's 2 classes per semester may not be strong enough to win the hearts and minds of the adcoms. Having to work is no excuse, but merely a challenge to overcome in the eyes of the adcoms. I have known people to be rejected because the evidence of their grade rehabilitation was "weak" due to taking too few courses per semester/quarter despite their post-bacc GPA being 4.0. Therefore one has to make that decision...

...go all out to prove to the adcoms that you can get all A's, or throw in the towel.

Anyway pianoman511, I'm in relatively similar conditions that you were in. My GPA after graduating undergrad was 2.65. I did an informal post-bacc for 1.5 years while working for the US Army, and as a researcher for my school. It was hard to find time, or afford more than 3 classes per quarter. It was hard to find the motivation to keep going knowing that there's nothing really waiting at the end of this post-bacc program, like a degree, or instant admission. Well luckily, I thought about grad school, an option that is often times not encouraged by med schools since it may not boost your GPA. But I asked our med school's admission director about taking undergrad classes while in grad school. He said that would also count as post-bacc, and then the gears started to roll. Shortly following that encounter, a personal issue came up which required me to take a quarter off. Although the issue wasn't really a good thing, in retrospect, it turns out to be a blessing. I was able to rethink my study habits, and both my immediate and long term goals. I did one more quarter of post-bacc with great results, and jumped into a PhD program that fall. Since then I have not turned back taking med school, grad school, and undergrad courses through this program and maintaining a GPA of 4.0.

Anyway, sorry for the lengthy story, but we've been there at some point or another. You have to think hard. Essentially ask yourself, if it came down to it, are you willing to apply to med school at age 40? Although I hope for all of us that it doesn't reach that point, you never know, and your answer may point you in a better direction. Its a lot of time and effort to get into med school even with good grades. Its even more exhaustive when GPA/MCAT rehab is involved. But it is certainly NOT impossible to do. At most, I suggest you take a quarter/semester off to clear your mind. Taking a year off, in my opinion is too long and provides your mind enough time to make up excuses to quit. So yea.... take out loans if it means you can devote more time to school. A year of 4.0 full-time undergrad coursework can take you VERY far, especially when combined with a 30+ MCAT. :luck:
 
I agree with the person above. If this is what you want, you must commit full on. A good solid year of As on top of what you have done already can make a huge difference. Remember that you are also more than your grades and mcats. your ability to take a full load, get As, and work 2 jobs speaks strongly to your endurance, focus, and drive to get where you want to go. all your choices should be geared toward getting into med school, and not to alleviate the pain you are currently experiencing. sorry, i know it is tough, i've been there- but don't give up 🙂
 
Listen...

Getting into medical school isn't a sprint; it's a marathon. Whether you get in now or three years from now it doesn't really matter. It's a profession with a lot of longevity, meaning you can practice into your 70s if you choose. What's hard about it is doing everything right. Do whatever you need to do to raise your GPA and your MCAT, whilst also being able to keep your head above water. You don't want to ENTER medical school burned out already. Whatever you do, do it well. It doesn't matter how long it takes. Try to avoid feeling "behind" or whatever. If I had had my way, I would have gone undergrad-->med school, but the fact that it didn't happen that way doesn't stress me out. Quite the contrary. I feel a lot more mature as a person than I would have had I entered at 22, and I think it will serve me well as a medical student. Don't worry about it!
 
I was TOTALLY burned out right before I finished my BS. I was a single mother, taking 17+ credits/semester, President of a club, working 10 hours a week at a vet clinic (I was pre-vet at the time), etc. etc. etc. I actually got accepted into vet school which was exciting for about 2 seconds. Then all I could think was how much I was dreading the fall. Everything about going to vet school made me sick. I wanted to be a vet, but only if someone could wave a magic wand and just make me one. I did end up withdrawing my acceptance and I enrolled in a graduate program (I had already applied for graduate school as a backup plan to vet school). I only had to take 2 classes a semester, and was otherwise busy with TA-ing or research. And as a single mother, the flexibility of graduate school was more condusive then vet school would have been. Ultimately I'm glad I didn't enroll into vet school. It's been 5 years since I finished my BS, I got the mental break I needed (from rigorous science courses), and now I've actually experienced more career options, thus deciding on human medicine. I feel fully prepared to start medical school this fall and am really excited about my future. I'm also married now and have alot more support then I had before. Everything is pulling together and I don't regret for a second not entering vet school 5 years ago. I would have flunked out . . . no doubt.

Taking a year off will not hinder your chances of getting into med school. If you take that time to further your education and/or career adcoms are not going to penalize you for taking a year off. Plus, as someone mentioned above, you can study for the MCAT and try to increase your score, thus bettering your chances of getting in when you do apply. Definitely make sure to shadow/volunteer/or work in some kind of medical environment to keep your LOR's and experience current. But otherwise just focus on getting your motivation and energy back up so you're ready for the rigors of medical school when you do get it. 🙂
 
There have been some great replies, I don't have much substance to contribute.

The poster who used the marathon analogy was spot on, and that's what it is for us non-trads. It took me eight years to matriculate post Army ETS. Granted that included a full underdraduate degree, a MS in biology, and three years of working, but it was all worth it.

The key is wanting it badly enough coupled with realistic personal expectations. Can you prepare enough to score >30? Can you get a post bacc. degree or continue to take classes? Does your significant other understand your obsession? That's what it has to be, an obsession. Good luck.
 
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