dds/phd

[992]

hello i have a question

i'm not certain on this, but i'm pretty sure MD/PhD programs that are funded by NIH through T32 or a similar mechanism are residence independent (they dont take residence into account as long as you pass the MD portion of the process). is that true for dual degree DDS/PhD programs funded by NIH as well?

i'm a pre-dent, but it doesnt seem like there's much interest in going into research with a DDS. the problem with this is that most (or maybe all) of the NIH funded schools are big state schools which sadly accept few out-of-staters. i think for med school it's a bit different because NIH funds all types of public and private schools, whereas only a small fraction of dental schools are funded (and for 1 or 2 seats at that). anybody know anything about this? i dont know who to ask and the other forum with md/phd people will probably know nothing about dentistry.

i'll probably end up calling the schools to be safe but any info u guys might have would be nice. i searched the forums only to find like 5-7 year old posts...haha. seriously nobody wants to do dds/phd??

 

[a2ndragoon89]

i'm applying for the dds/phd program at ucsf. if I get in, i'll most likely do it. the only downside is that only 2 are accepted there. I know UCLA has up to 5 seats, but they are not going to accept 5 every year. There's a list of schools that have the opportunity to do the dual degree program, but it really depends where you want to go. You can go a quick google search and find out which schools. One of the benefits of doing this program is that d-school is paid for, and you get a stipend. So no debt, and you can go out and practice without worrying about compounded interest that is likely going to hit you.

 

[992]

while i appreciate your response, i feel like you did not even read the post..only the title. i'm not on the fence, i have a specific question about the T32 funding mechanism and how it affects residency.

i'll summarize for you my question: because the DSTP programs are funded by NIH, is it true that schools do not take into consideration state residence when filling those spots?

 

[UFRalo]

while i appreciate your response, i feel like you did not even read the post..only the title. i'm not on the fence, i have a specific question about the T32 funding mechanism and how it affects residency.

i'll summarize for you my question: because the DSTP programs are funded by NIH, is it true that schools do not take into consideration state residence when filling those spots?

I'm not sure about how other schools work...but at UF we can't even apply for dmd/phd until D3...so basically it boils down to does the school care about accepting OOSers into each class. I know for UF they mentioned that they may reserve spots for dmd/phd students in the future, but in order to get one of those spots, you will have to be accepted into the entering class first and then apply to be a designated dmd/phd'er.

To be honest though, it is probably a case by case basis...some schools will have you apply directly for a combined spot (e.g. MUSC) while others will be like I mentioned above. However, you should also be aware that getting a t32 doesn't necessarily cover your cost of attendance. For UF, the plan would be pay for 3 years of school, start t32 (while still paying 1/8 dental school tuition per semester) and graduate...so you wouldn't necessarily come out of school debt free.

Interesting topic though...

 

[992]

thanks for the response -- it seems like a terrible deal at UF. no lab rotations until 3rd year would mean that u probably wont finish in 7..more like 8 or 9. at that point it might just make more financial sense to pay in full for dental school and then pursue a PhD in conjunction with NIH's LRP.

 

[a2ndragoon89]

oh I guess so. the only dds/phd programs I know specifically about are the ones on the west coast. sorry! for sure though, those programs are 8-9yrs long. At UCSF you do the first 2 years with your class, then 2 years rotating in labs and you choose a lab after that, then you go back with the class 2 yrs below you and finish up the last two years, then finish the PhD after that. For the record, i've no clue what a t32 mechanism is. My prof at ucsf just said that d-school was paid for if you do the dds/phd at ucsf.