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[gyngyn]

That gpa is going to be a dealbreaker for MD unless you can show a sustained period of academic excellence in rigorous undergrad courses.
An SMP is an alternative.

DO schools average your graduate grades into the undergrad.

 

[THEBACKANDFORTH]

I think you need the SMP. In a lot of ways, people like YOU are the point of those programs.

 

[gyngyn]

So essentially a rigorous graduate curriculum including immunology, cell biology and genetics don't matter as much as undergrad? I know grades are so padded in graduate school, so my 4.0 is probably useless.

I mean I can take undergrad courses while I'm in grad school as well, it just confuses me a little as to how that is perceived.

To be clear, my last two years of undergrad were almost straight A's and all 400 level science courses (my degree is in Immunology). My gpa literally comes from failing classes like religion 101 and hebrew 1 throughout my time of illness.

Gpa screens are often around 3.0.
Trend is also important but if no one is there to see it...

 

[gyngyn]

Yeah, understood. So how is a SMP seen as different than graduate work if the uGPA screen exists?

SMP's are designed to predict medical school performance. The grades are not inflated.
They often have relationships with schools into which they feed.
Some of them offer interviews to those who do well.

 

[gyngyn]

Ok! Sounds good.

One last question - the grade averaging you mentioned for DO, is that a universal thing or something only certain schools do?

Thank you so much for your help.

I believe they all include graduate grades...let's ask @Goro .

 

[Goro]

I believe they all include graduate grades...let's ask @Goro .

AACOMAS indeed averages graduate GPAs with cGPA, even for research MS and other post-bac programs/coursework

 

[mjscal]

I was also in Immunology. One thing which I think helped me in my application was taking multiple basic medical science courses during my early graduate years with the medical students and doing extremely well as I needed to be in the top 10% of the class to earn an A. Perhaps you could do the same? Might also help you perform better in a future SMP.