Dental schools without residency programs??

[Leine4]

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Hello all....

Just wondering if you had any opinions on dental schools that don't have residency programs. Pros/cons?

Thanks! 🙂

 

[Dukie]

Hello all....

Just wondering if you had any opinions on dental schools that don't have residency programs. Pros/cons?

Thanks! 🙂

Purely, my opnion, the biggest ones:

Pro: More likely to see patients with extreme cases that would be sent to the residents normally, not fighting with residents for cases
Con: You suffer from not having the instruction and knowledge that specialists provide, you can get overwhelmed with cases that are beyond your ability

 

[armorshell]

Dukie - Note that dental schools without residency programs do still have attending specialists, there's just no residents. If you ever get in over your head there will be someone there to bail you out.

It would be unethical and probably illegal to let a dental student hack away at a patient in a procedure they're unfamiliar with without some sort of guidance.

 

[armorshell]

I'll give my opinions:

Pro - Ability to do what Dukie mentioned, complex specialty procedures, not to mention getting some numbers under your belt for simple specialty procedures. IMHO this is great for people either seeking to specialize, though maybe not so high priority for ortho and to a degree, OMFS gunners. You can get extractions at any school and they're not going to let you do anything more complicated than that without some serious guidance, and ortho, well, they're not going to let you do ortho. Maybe invisalign depending on the school. Really great for people who plan on doing general dentistry, the less you have to refer the less your patients have to wait and travel, and the bigger your bottom line. Win-win-win.

Cons - Without a residency program on campus you don't have a chance to experience what it's like to be in an actual residency, if that your goal. Also, IMO high profile people within the field tend to be at teaching programs, and that is probably an advantage.

 

[Squished Rat]

I'll give my opinions:

Pro - Ability to do what Dukie mentioned, complex specialty procedures, not to mention getting some numbers under your belt for simple specialty procedures. IMHO this is great for people either seeking to specialize, though maybe not so high priority for ortho and to a degree, OMFS gunners. You can get extractions at any school and they're not going to let you do anything more complicated than that without some serious guidance, and ortho, well, they're not going to let you do ortho. Maybe invisalign depending on the school. Really great for people who plan on doing general dentistry, the less you have to refer the less your patients have to wait and travel, and the bigger your bottom line. Win-win-win.

Cons - Without a residency program on campus you don't have a chance to experience what it's like to be in an actual residency, if that your goal. Also, IMO high profile people within the field tend to be at teaching programs, and that is probably an advantage.

You guys don't get to do any ortho cases at schools without an ortho program? That's too bad. As someone who is not doing ortho, I still enjoyed the chance to do braces on a pt. I was wondering if you could elaborate on whether you are saying it is or is not a pro for OMFS. I wasn't really sure I understood what you are saying.

 

[armorshell]

You guys don't get to do any ortho cases at schools without an ortho program? That's too bad. As someone who is not doing ortho, I still enjoyed the chance to do braces on a pt. I was wondering if you could elaborate on whether you are saying it is or is not a pro for OMFS. I wasn't really sure I understood what you are saying.

I seem to be having to be having that problem today, so I'm not surprised.

As far as ortho, we do have an ortho program here and I honestly don't know too much about it's place in our pre-doctoral curriculum. I asked my roommate though and he says you don't do anything unless you really want to. I however, don't. We do get certified for invisalign though, which is cool.

As far as OMFS, I figure not having a program isn't a huge advantage. You can do lots of extractions at any program, and even if you don't have an OMFS program at your school, the administration isn't going to let you do anything more complex than an extraction anyway.

We're lucky at UoP though, because we get the best of both worlds. Theres no OS program at the dental school, but there is one a short drive away in Oakland. This situation doesn't dilute our patient pool of OS, but we as predocs can still easily go to grand rounds, interact with residents, etc...