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Finally a mature response to my post , thank you so much , I appreciate that .Hey, a few facts about your choice of med school:
90 credit hours of undergrad required (not even an undergrad degree mentioned as a requirement)
No MCAT required
Out of one graduating class, only 4 are now doing residency and no mention of what specialty they're doing residency in
Don't believe me? Here's the link: Behold!
http://www.comhssl.net/casa/index.php/about-us/faqs.html
You are a fool.Finally a mature response to my post , thank you so much , I appreciate that .
The sniping on this thread is amazing, I am surprised it has not yet been closed.
To the OP:
1. It sounds like you're plan is to re-enroll in medical school to improve your YOG. As you have discovered, very few medical schools will let you do so. You can interpret this one of two ways: 1) it's a completely crazy idea that makes no sense, hence why most schools will not let you do it, and Destiny will let you do it because they are deperate and want your tuition at any cost; or 2) Destiny is very forward thinking and reasonable while other schools are close minded. As you can probably tell, most of us believe option #1. Hence why we are warning you that this is a bad idea.
2. Will it work? Sort of. If you were to enroll at Destiny, graduate, and then apply in ERAS, your new YOG would be listed. There's only one spot for YOG, so any filter based upon YOG would see your new graduation date. Therefore, programs that electronically screen out applicants over a certain YOG would now not screen your application. Does that mean that you might get more interviews? Maybe, but there are problems with your plan:
A) You will not be able to retake the steps. Any stories you have heard of people retaking the steps by going back to medical school (which I have seen once, in the NYCOM emigre program) likely happened because the person didn't take Step 3. Then, their Step 1/2 scores "expired" and their school was able to petition for them to take the steps again. If you've already passed Step 3, it is very unlikely / almost impossible that you will get another chance to take the steps.
B) When you apply via ERAS, you'll only be able to submit a single transcript. If your school can't / won't include your prior transcript, that might be a problem.
3. This medical school's track record, based only upon what they have posted on their website, isn't reassuring. They have been in business since 2002, so presumably started graduating students in 2006, so 7 years of graduates. Their total number of graduates for all 7 years is 33. They state that 4 of their "most recent" graduates got positions but don't mention in what field. So, even their own descriptions (which are probably biased in their favor) make this sound concerning. If we look at the NRMP "Charting Outcomes" focusing on IMG's, they break things down in Table 15 by country. St Lucia has 3 medical schools with graduates (and, apparently according to wikipedia, two more that have started / are starting). All of those schools combined had 12 people match, and 40 not match for US IMG's. Spartan is more established, so Destiny's match might be worse than this. And if you're not a US citizen, it's certain to be worse.
4. I don't know you, and behavior on an online anonymous forum may be different than IRL. However, you do seem quick to insult people who honestly are trying to help. Skip has been here for a long time. He (I think?) is not mean, and does not randomly insult people. He does try to speak the truth, even when others don't want to hear it. He went to the Carib, and has been very successful. His salary (if we use that as a measure of success) is much higher than mine. But he has stated multiple times to multiple people that the Carib is a last resort, an uphill battle, fraught with difficulty, and can be a disaster. Your situation is very atypical, already has "problems" (Step scores that are low for an IMG), and you're considering a very low ranked school.
Bottom line:
The honest truth is that this is a really bad idea. There is some small chance it will work, and you will get a residency. If you're willing to take a huge financial risk for that small chance, it's your choice. More likely than not, you'll end up in the same boat -- no residency, but now much more debt. Educational debt is not dischargable in bankruptcy, so you'll be forced to pay it back no matter what. Not finding a job after school will not (in general) be an acceptable excuse for getting rid of your loans. With only 33 total graduates ever, it's unlikely you're going to get much input from students there. There is very little, if any, traffic on the ValueMD site, which should also be telling.
And, insulting others on this site is unacceptable, IMHO. It's an anonymous, free site where people post their opinions. If you don't like someone's attitude, you can block
them. If you think someone is
Ookay attacking you, you can report their post. As a completely outside observer, it's your posts on this thread that are the most concerning.
I don't know the reason of you post ? Was it to insult me or wish me luck ? If both ... Then I think you might be borderline .Have been following this hilarious posting train. Can not agree more with Skip and aProg. statements. I think dr. match"never"- just keeps it going for some unknown "getting her rocks off" reason. We can only wish her good luck in her future endeavors and close this stream of now non useful gibberish on SDN. Regards Dr B (34 years in practice) and my son who did it as US/IMG to licensed in 3 states to practice medicine.
You need to really see a psychologistYour son did what ? Destiny medical school ??
Pathetic and sadYou need to really see a psychologist
Amazing , thank you so much Jamie , I would like to know about the clinical rotations . Were you place at a hospital with residency program ? Were given a fair chance to see patient and learn like any American school student ?Dr match, I went to destiny and can answer your questions. What did you want to know?
Sorry dear PD , that is in case you really are one ( seriously doubt it )
I HAVE no time to read your long comments . Unlike you I live in a real world and I have more important things to do.
Please go find some one else to bother , you are not helping .
If you had made time to read AProgDirector's "long comments", you would see that he just gave you some valuable advice. And his tone was probably far more patient than that of the rest of us. He's been posting on these forums for a long time, and always provides excellent advice. We've been giving you advice, and instead of considering it, you respond in a very childish fashion. Sorry if you don't like the tone of our posts, but that's because we're incredibly frustrated with you. We're beating our heads against the wall giving you advice, and instead of considering it, you're behaving like a spoiled teenage girl who isn't getting what she wants. Anyway, you want to waste your time and money with Destiny, no skin off our backs. Just be aware that even after graduating, you could very well end up not matching, and with your medical career dead before it even begins.
And by the way, did you even read that link I posted about Destiny? The facts that I posted about the school are not good things, in case you didn't notice. The fact that the school doesn't even require a bachelor's degree or MCAT for admission speaks volumes about the caliber of students who are admitted to Destiny. Also, only 33 students have graduated since 2007, and only 4 of them have managed to find residency spots. Yeah, sounds like a pretty solid track record to me.
I am frustrated and furious by you and the others comment . I am here seeking help and advice not trashy and immature behavior .
Your program director thought going to American medical school will not let do my steps again , he first advices me about it , then he goes and say it's no good ( you can't retake the steps) then he say it's good and you can take them. Then he talks about step 3 with wrong info . That tells me your PD doesn't know what he is talking about.
IF YOU have red what he had to say , you would have came to same conclusion .
If you don't have some thing to beneficial to say . I advice you to go do some thing better with your time .
Good luck at Destiny.OMG...I know that ! The EPP at nycom that I am talking about( only ) states that .
Amazing , thank you so much Jamie , I would like to know about the clinical rotations . Were you place at a hospital with residency program ? Were given a fair chance to see patient and learn like any American school student ?
What do you think over all about the school?
How did you get your financing ?
I really appreciate your help .
Thank you so much
Hi dr match:
I was placed in hospitals around the country, but mostly in New York. Setting up the rotations was very difficult and the school didn't help much. However, once at the hospital the rotations seemed to be the same as other students (Carib and some md/do) that rotated through the hospitals. Electives were similarly very difficult to set up- most hD never heard of Destiny sadly.
Overall, the school was good for a Caribbean school I think. I have not attended another school and cannot directly compare but I was given a chance to match as an MD. If you can get into a LCME accredited MD school, I'd pick that over Destiny.
Finances were not really an issue. If you are a US citizen, you can take out private loans fairly easily from banks.
Thank you so much . I was waiting so long for such response and I finally got it .Hi dr match:
I was placed in hospitals around the country, but mostly in New York. Setting up the rotations was very difficult and the school didn't help much. However, once at the hospital the rotations seemed to be the same as other students (Carib and some md/do) that rotated through the hospitals. Electives were similarly very difficult to set up- most hD never heard of Destiny sadly.
Overall, the school was good for a Caribbean school I think. I have not attended another school and cannot directly compare but I was given a chance to match as an MD. If you can get into a LCME accredited MD school, I'd pick that over Destiny.
Finances were not really an issue. If you are a US citizen, you can take out private loans fairly easily from banks.
Stay tuned for this thread up dates when I match .It really comforts me knowing that Dr Match will never be a doctor.
Stay tuned for this thread up dates when I match .
Then I will be laughing at you loser
??????????????Well, I'm sure the flags will be flying at half-mat on that fateful day!
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You are so weird seriously . I think you need a therapist are you on drugs ?
May be professionally you did . But as a person you still need to grow up kidoYeah, at least I made better decisions when it came to my medical career, and therefore succeeded.
So did you match and why destiny with more established schools around? I'm curious
Thank you for all the valuable info . Can you please share your step scores ? I just need to see my chances .Yeah I matched in IM. I chose Destiny because I was poorly informed at the time :-/
Stay tuned for this thread up dates when I match .
Then I will be laughing at you loser
I am surprised you are still following this thread ?! !!!!!!!And making nasty comments about person you know nothing about . Don't you have some thing better to do with your life, I wasn't going to respond to your stupidity until I red the good luck talk and I was like .. WHAT ?!!!!!Your attitude is a pretty tell tale sign that the only thing you will be matching is ticket orders at a fast food joint.
Good luck though. I honestly wish you the best, and I will very happily admit that I was wrong if you do match.
And what you know another bag of stupidity thrown on my way.I'm so disappointed I've reached the end of this thread. It has been wildly entertaining. DrMatch, I think the best thing you can do to increase your chance of matching is get a full psych evaluation. You've just displayed some serious personality flaws that will be hard to hide at interview and a profound lack of insight into their existence. I can't believe how rude you have been to people who are trying to help you.
I'm so disappointed I've reached the end of this thread. It has been wildly entertaining. DrMatch, I think the best thing you can do to increase your chance of matching is get a full psych evaluation. You've just displayed some serious personality flaws that will be hard to hide at interview and a profound lack of insight into their existence. I can't believe how rude you have been to people who are trying to help you.