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[dr1989]

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I just found out that I got a D in my Calc II semester and this has totally got me down and just worried that i may not be right for d-school 🙁

I am more mad at myself that I signed up for this class thinking I had to take it as a pre-req for d-school and my major-only to find out this was not necessary. so not only did it waste my time money and energy-but also has bought my gpa down significantly to a 2.5😱

i am totally freaking out and just trying to compose myself. this will be the 3rd D on my transcript in addition to 3 Ws. What will d-schools (if i ever get there) think about me? I still have another year left but i am just worried. I was doing everthing right but i obviously have a long way to go. The only consolidation i have is that I got an A in ethics, B+ in Anatomy and B in physics. This F is really going to bring it down n make me cringe every time i See it. Definitely ruined the holidays for me 🙁


What do i do and how do i move on? Is the optimism I have only denial in reality? Should I just stop? WILL any dental school take me?? I cant even repeat this at a cc because i took the max cc units before transferring over this semseter to my univ. so much for a nice clean start at my univ

disheartened and feeling quite stupid

dr. 1989

 

[Destiny11]

I just found out that I got a D in my Calc II semester and this has totally got me down and just worried that i may not be right for d-school 🙁

I am more mad at myself that I signed up for this class thinking I had to take it as a pre-req for d-school and my major-only to find out this was not necessary. so not only did it waste my time money and energy-but also has bought my gpa down significantly to a 2.5😱

i am totally freaking out and just trying to compose myself. this will be the 3rd D on my transcript in addition to 3 Ws. What will d-schools (if i ever get there) think about me? I still have another year left but i am just worried. I was doing everthing right but i obviously have a long way to go. The only consolidation i have is that I got an A in ethics, B+ in Anatomy and B in physics. This F is really going to bring it down n make me cringe every time i See it. Definitely ruined the holidays for me 🙁


What do i do and how do i move on? Is the optimism I have only denial in reality? Should I just stop? WILL any dental school take me?? I cant even repeat this at a cc because i took the max cc units before transferring over this semseter to my univ. so much for a nice clean start at my univ

disheartened and feeling quite stupid

dr. 1989

Did you get a D or F? What's your current GPA? What year are you? Did you take the DAT yet?

 

[dr1989]

Did you get a D or F? What's your current GPA? What year are you? Did you take the DAT yet?

well i think i got an F..ill be lucky to get a D. im a junior (technically was to be a senior this year but had to take 1 extra year for my major reqs-which is biology btw. No I talked with some dentists and people I volunteer with at the Ucla clinic and decided to hold off the DAT. I have a bigger load of courses and have yet start my ochem series. So i prob wont to my Dats till next fall or maybe summer. dont know yet.

my cumulative gpa is 2.7...science gpa is 3.1
i still have 4 semesters of courses lined up.
its math that kills me every time!!

 

[peanutb123]

I just found out that I got a D in my Calc II semester and this has totally got me down and just worried that i may not be right for d-school 🙁

I am more mad at myself that I signed up for this class thinking I had to take it as a pre-req for d-school and my major-only to find out this was not necessary. so not only did it waste my time money and energy-but also has bought my gpa down significantly to a 2.5😱

i am totally freaking out and just trying to compose myself. this will be the 3rd D on my transcript in addition to 3 Ws. What will d-schools (if i ever get there) think about me? I still have another year left but i am just worried. I was doing everthing right but i obviously have a long way to go. The only consolidation i have is that I got an A in ethics, B+ in Anatomy and B in physics. This F is really going to bring it down n make me cringe every time i See it. Definitely ruined the holidays for me 🙁


What do i do and how do i move on? Is the optimism I have only denial in reality? Should I just stop? WILL any dental school take me?? I cant even repeat this at a cc because i took the max cc units before transferring over this semseter to my univ. so much for a nice clean start at my univ

disheartened and feeling quite stupid

dr. 1989

If its not required By your major, good thing is you do NOT HAVE TO REPEAT THE COURSE again... So that should make you exponentially happy...

CLAC II has nothing to do with dentistry.

If you are not trying to get into d-schools which require calc II. then it should make even more happy 4 holidays. The fact is only couple d-schools require calc II and i believe they are ivy league.

HERE Is what you will do. Suck up the D. I suggest you take another math or science class which is the same # of credits as your calc II class. And make sure you get an A.

If you were to repeat calc II AGAIN. then it will be counted as individually. Like 2 different classes. So why not take a science class or some easy math class with same number of credits? b/c calc II is not a requirement and you dont have to pass it at all in order to "dodge" that class.

I dont think this class alone can stop you from getting into d-school. There are so many factors involved. dat score overall gpa, etc...
Regarding how they will look at your D, not sure. I am pretty sure that some people on SDN say that they received couple D's C's and F's and still manage to get in.

So enjoy holidays and plan for next semester.

 

[dr1989]

If its not required By your major, good thing is you do NOT HAVE TO REPEAT THE COURSE again... So that should make you exponentially happy...

CLAC II has nothing to do with dentistry.

If you are not trying to get into d-schools which require calc II. then it should make even more happy 4 holidays. The fact is only couple d-schools require calc II and i believe they are ivy league.

HERE Is what you will do. Suck up the D. I suggest you take another math or science class which is the same # of credits as your calc II class. And make sure you get an A.

If you were to repeat calc II AGAIN. then it will be counted as individually. Like 2 different classes. So why not take a science class or some easy math class with same number of credits? b/c calc II is not a requirement and you dont have to pass it at all in order to "dodge" that class.

I dont think this class alone can stop you from getting into d-school. There are so many factors involved. dat score overall gpa, etc...
Regarding how they will look at your D, not sure. I am pretty sure that some people on SDN say that they received couple D's C's and F's and still manage to get in.

So enjoy holidays and plan for next semester.

so i really dont have to retake it? what if i just wanted to retake it to do better in calculus? i feel it was poor time management on my part-i could have done better in calc and im more than capable of geting at least a B. if i retook it-would they take the average of my grades? well UoP is one of my wish list schools and i think they were the one of the few schools that required yet...nonetheless that makes me SIGNIFICANTLY happier!

thank you! 🙂

i still want to do well. dental school will be much harder and i dont want to give the adcom any reason to reject me in the future!

all the best.

dr1989

ps-this reminds of a well liked ER doc i work with-he is the smartest n most compassionate doc i know-he has a binder full of all the rejection letters in his office from all the med schools that rejected him-took him 3x to apply to med school before he finally got accepted! (went to usc/ucla for med n residency)

persistence is key. with knowledge and a desire to learn.

 

[peanutb123]

No they do not TAKE "AVERAGE" of your CLAC II credits.

So lets say you will get a B. So you will have 4 credits of B and 4 credits of D. so that total of 8 credits just for calc. 2.

On monday call up couple schools and ask if they require clac II, and explain your situation. they can provide you the best advice. Calc II is very difficult.

upper level math is independent of ones success in dental school. For ex. most bio majors dont take past calc I. Yet some of their QR scores are below 18. Which does not prove that they are weak in math but it does prove that math is independent of ones success in d-school. So dont stress too much about it. But i would try to raise that science GPA and cumm. Gpa.

 

[dentalWorks]

I just found out that I got a D in my Calc II semester and this has totally got me down and just worried that i may not be right for d-school 🙁

I am more mad at myself that I signed up for this class thinking I had to take it as a pre-req for d-school and my major-only to find out this was not necessary. so not only did it waste my time money and energy-but also has bought my gpa down significantly to a 2.5😱

i am totally freaking out and just trying to compose myself. this will be the 3rd D on my transcript in addition to 3 Ws. What will d-schools (if i ever get there) think about me? I still have another year left but i am just worried. I was doing everthing right but i obviously have a long way to go. The only consolidation i have is that I got an A in ethics, B+ in Anatomy and B in physics. This F is really going to bring it down n make me cringe every time i See it. Definitely ruined the holidays for me 🙁


What do i do and how do i move on? Is the optimism I have only denial in reality? Should I just stop? WILL any dental school take me?? I cant even repeat this at a cc because i took the max cc units before transferring over this semseter to my univ. so much for a nice clean start at my univ

disheartened and feeling quite stupid

dr. 1989

Well, with a 2.5 GPA, dental schools aren't going to think much of you. Its really not about how many Ds, Fs, or even Cs a person has, its all about overall numbers. Whats your overall GPA? whats your science GPA, these are what matter, and from looks of it, you dug yourself quite a big mathematical(GPA) hole.

You said you still have 1 more year to go right? If I was you, I wouldn't allow anything less than an A to appear on my transcript from now on (if your heart is that determined toward dentistry).... Low GPAs can totally ruin an application

 

[TriangleZuikis]

One D or F wont matter so much if your overall gpa is good. You really need to get straight A's next year, and depending on how well you do on your DAT and the strength of your application overall you might have to go on to get a masters. Good luck!

 

[Regmata]

You have more to worry about than a D...your GPA is low, not sure if you took the DAT yet or not, but you need to absolutely crush it and probably do a masters...but who knows, maybe you will get lucky

 

[KentUT]

I am not 100% sure on this, but according to the UoP website calc II is not one of their admission requirements. I would take an easier math class like the poster above said. No point in taking the risk again. Just stick with it. If you want it bad enough you will achieve it. You have a hole to climb out of, but people before you have done it, so why wouldnt you be able to?!

Enjoy the break man, take the time to re-focus and get the D out of your head. It's over and done with, nothing you can do except move on and make your situation the best you can before you apply. Good luck!

 

[persenmi]

I have been accepted to two top notch dental schools as of today. I say this to give myself credibility for what I am about to tell you with respect to what you need to do to get to dental school. I am going to be honest with you, with your low gpa and a transcript dotted with W's and D's its not going to be easy, but it CAN be done. There is still time. Here is what you must do:

1) Take 17+ credits each semester until you finish your degree. Make sure 12 of those credits are upper division science courses.

2) Get an A in every course. An A- is acceptable, but shoot for an A. I say this because D-Schools want PROOF you can handle their extremely rigorous curriculum and not flunk out. If you can accomplish #1 and 2 this will vastly improve your d-school application.

3) Crush the DAT. 21+ in every section. This is probably overkill but you need to compensate for your marginal undergrad transcripts. Make no mistake, this will NOT be easy, but a good DAT will prove you can absorb and apply large amounts of information regardless of how you performed in undergrad. That is why this test is so important.

4) Get good letters of rec and do plenty of volunteer/community service activities (this will also be a good chance to secure a good letter!). You absolutely must beef up other areas of your application to compensate for the low gpa. Dental schools look for maturity and commitment as much as they look for academic performance and smarts. This aspect of the application is every bit as important as the grades.

I believe the closer you get to my recommendations the better off you will be. I am not saying that you will not get in if you don't achieve them exactly and you should give up if you get a B+. Hardly. Just strive for the best so you don't waste your time and hard earned $ when you apply. Good luck.

 

[wantVCUdental]

A in ethics, B+ in Anatomy and B in physics.D in Calc II.
I think this is a good spread. Calc isn't req.
A in ethics (very important for dentistry and now you got something to prove you are an ethical human being-congratulations! this should be the highlight of your transcript for the semester)

As long as your BCP and sci.gpa is good you are still in the greenzone. Why so many Ws? and Ds?

 

[lmaozedong1]

If i'm not mistaken, Calculus IS calculated into your sGPA, so just be aware that it will hurt your sGPA.

 

[dentalWorks]

If i'm not mistaken, Calculus IS calculated into your sGPA, so just be aware that it will hurt your sGPA.

this is correct. Any math course is considered to be "science"

 

[nze82]

I just found out that I got a D in my Calc II semester and this has totally got me down and just worried that i may not be right for d-school 🙁

I am more mad at myself that I signed up for this class thinking I had to take it as a pre-req for d-school and my major-only to find out this was not necessary. so not only did it waste my time money and energy-but also has bought my gpa down significantly to a 2.5😱

i am totally freaking out and just trying to compose myself. this will be the 3rd D on my transcript in addition to 3 Ws. What will d-schools (if i ever get there) think about me? I still have another year left but i am just worried. I was doing everthing right but i obviously have a long way to go. The only consolidation i have is that I got an A in ethics, B+ in Anatomy and B in physics. This F is really going to bring it down n make me cringe every time i See it. Definitely ruined the holidays for me 🙁


What do i do and how do i move on? Is the optimism I have only denial in reality? Should I just stop? WILL any dental school take me?? I cant even repeat this at a cc because i took the max cc units before transferring over this semseter to my univ. so much for a nice clean start at my univ

disheartened and feeling quite stupid

dr. 1989

Why don't you just repeat those classes at your school (as oppose to CC) and try to improve those grades? Sure! They still see the "D" on your transcript even if you repeat it, but at least they'll know that you went back and took another shot at it to improve your situation.

Here's a more general advice though....
Don't let failure get the best of you! There's a saying that "Everyone in Dental School fails something sooner or later." So, being able to deal with failure is in fact part of your training in Dental School. Try to learn how to deal with it now. It'll make your life much easier!

 

[KristopherTruth]

Your BCP won't be hit and schools look closely at that. Your Science it hit somewhat but your still in the game. Get a 3.6 every semester from here on out and your solid. Score well on the DAT and if needed then do a post bac or one year Masters. Do it and Do it good.

 

[Ething]

Overall, I don't think your chances are very good. Again, like everyone else has said, make sure you kill the DAT. I think you will most likely need post grad work if you want a shot at dental school. If you are ok with other fields...i know podiatry accepts the DAT and it is def less competitive than dental. Also, I am going to throw in this advice that people haven't mentioned...apply to the island schools as well. Whichever ones exist. KILL the DAT. Take courses....take Romano in NYC. Study for 6 months, over and over and over again until you have memorized everything. That is my recommendation for someone with your GPA. It can be done. Keep your head up and keep trying but please do be realistic. Dental school is definitely not for everyone. There is a reason they have cutoffs for GPAs and DAT....i have seen a few pple who couldn't handle the academics in dental school. Passion does mean a lot but if you cant pass the courses then you are wasting your time/money and the school's.

 

[hoylematt]

I was so scared of calculus, because one of my first semesters at the CC, I had to withdraw because I was doing so poorly.

When I declared my major after transferring to a 4-year, I found out to my horror that to graduate I had to take just the first semester of calculus. I have always been decent at Math, but calculus seemed to be this wall that i couldn't get over and scared the crap out of me.

I decided that I would do whatever it would take to get an A in that class. We had a tutoring center in our library on campus, and after every class I would spend a couple hours doing homework and studying in the center. Most of the tutors were math majors and they were so helpful! They made sure I understood what had to be memorized and how to do "A" work even if it wasn't my major. The true advantage to this strategy is that every single time I was clueless about homework problems I had someone to turn to for help. No guessing. No freaking out. Just putting the time in and learning the material.

I can say with some pride that when I left the final I knew for a fact that I had an A in the class. Even though it took me an extra 4-6 hours a week to truly master the material and succeed in the class. . . it was so freaking worth it.

If you have to take it again, you may need some tutoring. Check if your campus has a free center. It is in your best interest to leave the pride at the door and tell yourself that you need the help. You need every advantage you can to get the good grades at school, why not take them.