DISCUSS: New dental schools for 2025 and after?

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The 2024-2025 cycle will be interesting as many new dental schools will begin recruiting to fill inaugural classes, likely during the cycle pending CODA decisions. Read this brief (which includes a school opening dental hygiene programs).


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Yay more dentists for the workforce. This should address the workforce shortage.
 
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Big Hoss
 
To bump this thread back up, Go Dental and Go Cheaply!
note that all of these schools that are cheap for non-residents are very OOS unfriendly, and that their OOS stats are generally higher because of the lower cost leading to competition for those seats...
 
note that all of these schools that are cheap for non-residents are very OOS unfriendly, and that their OOS stats are generally higher because of the lower cost leading to competition for those seats...
sorry, i should specify that this applies to howard, puerto rico and missouri much less than the other schools...
 
annnnndddddd it keeps getting worst, outlook for dentistry was already in decline and now they want to pump more dentists out? This is not good at all.
hey man, as long as there is some dentist out there making 1 mil takehome on 18% overhead, then how can one say dentistry ain't good no more.

/sarcasm
 
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No wonder some corporate dental offices in highly saturated areas only offering $120k a year. Lol
 
Also, Roseman is increasing its class size and has just opened a new location in Nevada (class size 20 this year -> 40 students next year). The Utah location is increasing to 120 this year and 136 next year. Who knows how much larger they will grow too.
 
Bumping up for the Ohio applicants. They anticipate accepting AADSAS applications in 2024-2025.

Add: In-person monthly tours have been scheduled.
 
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Another new school…?
It is listed in the first press release... just posting their admissions website which will have opportunities to schedule with their admissions recruiter (once those are placed on their Calendly widget). I hadn't seen it before, and I'm monitoring when they'll make the announcement that their shop is open for applications in AADSAS.
 
Another school anticipated for its inaugural class recruitment in this AADSAS 2025 cycle:
Tanner/Pikeville: Dental Medicine | UPIKE | University of Pikeville - Pikeville, Kentucky

Note the volunteer service hours requirement/expectation (200 hours over the last 5 years) and forms for documenting shadowing and service on that page.
Our normal advising recommendation is to gain 100 hours of community service before submission.

Nothing has been posted about tuition or other costs as of this post.

(Helping the moderators setting up the new threads for 2024-2025.)
 
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Pacific Northwest University expects to recruit for its inaugural class in 2025.

Monthly recruitment sessions via Zoom (beginning May 21):

Review the website for details about requirements, including LORs and anticipated costs of attendance (tuition $75K + $10K additional).
 
Workman/High Point University School of Dental Medicine will NOT be using AADSAS for 2024-2025. Their own application portal will open May 1.

Pay attention to their admissions process (CARE curriculum): https://www.highpoint.edu/dental-medicine/files/2023/08/WSDMAdmitModel2024.pdf

Monthly information sessions begin on May 14: Campus Visit: Doctor of Dental Medicine (DMD)
 
Thank you @Mr.Smile12 for getting these links. I will be creating the threads this weekend for the newer schools and we will work with admin to get new SDN interview pages set up
Whatever I can do to get the recon for these. Workman HPU will open May 1, but we'll see when the others will open for applications since I don't think they will open on May 6 with AADSAS.

But this is a lot of new schools! I don't think we've had this many openings since the late 2000's. I don't remember three openings on the same cycle off-hand.
 
Whatever I can do to get the recon for these. Workman HPU will open May 1, but we'll see when the others will open for applications since I don't think they will open on May 6 with AADSAS.

But this is a lot of new schools! I don't think we've had this many openings since the late 2000's. I don't remember three openings on the same cycle off-hand.
Should be interesting to see how many students they're able to recruit. Taking a look, PNWU and UPike do not require the dat, but PNWU is a full letter grade above most schools' prerequisite grade requirements requiring applicants to have a minimum of a B to apply. Will be curious to see how PNWU handles being cheaper than UW and if able to pull some of those students away due to costs and how UPike attracts students from the other two Kentucky schools.
 
Should be interesting to see how many students they're able to recruit. Taking a look, PNWU and UPike do not require the dat, but PNWU is a full letter grade above most schools' prerequisite grade requirements requiring applicants to have a minimum of a B to apply. Will be curious to see how PNWU handles being cheaper than UW and if able to pull some of those students away due to costs and how UPike attracts students from the other two Kentucky schools.
Oh! I haven't had a chance to dive deeper into requirements (I'm busy signing up for virtual tours 🙂 and outreach). They sound like they intend to start with the AADSAS opening in May (but will they???).

That should be interesting to lift the DAT requirement. BUT They seem focused on the rural/WWAMI workforce... and Oregon!
"... emphasizing service in rural and medically underserved areas throughout the Pacific Northwest states of Washington, Alaska, Idaho, Oregon, and Montana."

Looks like we will need to post updates for applicants!
 
Oh! I haven't had a chance to dive deeper into requirements (I'm busy signing up for virtual tours 🙂 and outreach). They sound like they intend to start with the AADSAS opening in May (but will they???).

That should be interesting to lift the DAT requirement. BUT They seem focused on the rural/WWAMI workforce... and Oregon!
"... emphasizing service in rural and medically underserved areas throughout the Pacific Northwest states of Washington, Alaska, Idaho, Oregon, and Montana."

Looks like we will need to post updates for applicants!
I will be curious to see how schools going DAT optional will affect applicants and I will be especially curious to see how those applicants compare to traditional applicants who did take the DAT and went to schools requiring it.
 
I will be curious to see how schools going DAT optional will affect applicants and I will be especially curious to see how those applicants compare to traditional applicants who did take the DAT and went to schools requiring it.
Right... I want to see how HPU did. 😉
 
I think competition in dental education will make it better. Other schools will have to stop the garbage they are putting out and up their quality. However, this will saturate the market with new dentists
 
FWIW, I have reached out to the new schools for a future SDN article/s. If you have specific questions you'd like to know (generally or specifically), feel free to post or send me a DM.
Are they concerned by the present day cost of a dental education? How do they see this impacting their graduates?

Big Hoss
 
FWIW, I have reached out to the new schools for a future SDN article/s. If you have specific questions you'd like to know (generally or specifically), feel free to post or send me a DM.
are they going to be part of the federal student loan programs?
 
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Is this a new school? Interesting that they want students now for this current cycle. Does anyone have any info on this school in PR?
 
Yes, Universidad Ana Mendez is a private university in Puerto Rico (over 70 years old) that is opening both a new dental medicine and a veterinary medicine program this year. They are not currently listed on the ADEA site, but they previously were not using AADSAS for their last cycle. Thanks for letting us know it appears they will be included in ADEA AADSAS this cycle.

They were authorized to fill a class for a start of August 2024, beginning in April 2024! The AADSAS application presumably is to fill the August 2025 entering class. Applicants for entering 2024 (the current open application) must be bilingual (English and Spanish), must take the DAT, and must apply through their portal. Apparently they made more announcements on TwX three weeks ago when their portal opened.


There is limited information about their "state of the art" clinical facilities or their cost of attendance calculations. Or at least I haven't found it yet.

Marketing/communications team... I'm not critical, but I'm resigned to see how we are TT marketing everything... yay, kittens!



Of course, there are concerns on the veterinary side. Google hasn't identified similar "opening fanfare" articles about their dental program.
"However, with projected tuition likely to make it one of the most expensive schools in the U.S. and no assurances regarding the admission of residents, some wonder how committed the institution really is to Puerto Rico."
 
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Yes, Universidad Ana Mendez is a private university in Puerto Rico (over 70 years old) that is opening both a new dental medicine and a veterinary medicine program this year. They are not currently listed on the ADEA site, but they previously were not using AADSAS for their last cycle. Thanks for letting us know it appears they will be included in ADEA AADSAS this cycle.

They were authorized to fill a class for a start of August 2024, beginning in April 2024! The AADSAS application presumably is to fill the August 2025 entering class. Applicants for entering 2024 (the current open application) must be bilingual (English and Spanish), must take the DAT, and must apply through their portal. Apparently they made more announcements on TwX three weeks ago when their portal opened.


There is limited information about their "state of the art" clinical facilities or their cost of attendance calculations. Or at least I haven't found it yet.




Of course, there are concerns on the veterinary side. Google hasn't identified similar "opening fanfare" articles about their dental program.
"However, with projected tuition likely to make it one of the most expensive schools in the U.S. and no assurances regarding the admission of residents, some wonder how committed the institution really is to Puerto Rico."

Of course they aren’t committed to the people of Puerto Rico. My experience in dental school is that the school is NOT about the patients whatsoever. It’s only about the patients when it is a convenient talking point.
 
Thank you for the extra information Mr. Smile!

I sent in an application to see what they’re about. I also called and got some extra information to add for those who are curious about the opportunity….

  • When you call their admissions, it will direct you to a Spanish speaking operator, however, they have English speaking operators to help transfer your call.
  • They will begin sending out interview invites May 16th.
  • Classes start ~August 5th
  • You’ll have to do a mini application in their portal on the website (linked in Mr. Smile’s comment above)
  • What I did that may be useful to other was that I downloaded my ADEA application and imported it into the file drop box the offer along with a separate document of my PS.
  • You will have to reach out to your LOR writers and have them email their LORs to the email they provide to you.
  • All teachers are bilingual (Spanish and English)
  • A good chunk of the students will be Spanish speaking only, so be prepared.
  • I am not a perfect Spanish speaker, but they do give me the impression that they have ways around it if you’re not the best spanish speaker like me. But you definitely need a certain level of Spanish speaking abilities.

I am an intermediate level Spanish speaker/reader. I’m not grammatically perfect but I know how to communicate with Spanish speakers at an intermediate level. I have experience providing patient care dental one on one with Spanish speaking families.
 
Yes, Universidad Ana Mendez is a private university in Puerto Rico (over 70 years old) that is opening both a new dental medicine and a veterinary medicine program this year. They are not currently listed on the ADEA site, but they previously were not using AADSAS for their last cycle. Thanks for letting us know it appears they will be included in ADEA AADSAS this cycle.

They were authorized to fill a class for a start of August 2024, beginning in April 2024! The AADSAS application presumably is to fill the August 2025 entering class. Applicants for entering 2024 (the current open application) must be bilingual (English and Spanish), must take the DAT, and must apply through their portal. Apparently they made more announcements on TwX three weeks ago when their portal opened.


There is limited information about their "state of the art" clinical facilities or their cost of attendance calculations. Or at least I haven't found it yet.

Marketing/communications team... I'm not critical, but I'm resigned to see how we are TT marketing everything... yay, kittens!



Of course, there are concerns on the veterinary side. Google hasn't identified similar "opening fanfare" articles about their dental program.
"However, with projected tuition likely to make it one of the most expensive schools in the U.S. and no assurances regarding the admission of residents, some wonder how committed the institution really is to Puerto Rico."

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Big Hoss
 
Thank you for the extra information Mr. Smile!

I sent in an application to see what they’re about. I also called and got some extra information to add for those who are curious about the opportunity….

  • When you call their admissions, it will direct you to a Spanish speaking operator, however, they have English speaking operators to help transfer your call.
  • They will begin sending out interview invites May 16th.
  • Classes start ~August 5th
  • You’ll have to do a mini application in their portal on the website (linked in Mr. Smile’s comment above)
  • What I did that may be useful to other was that I downloaded my ADEA application and imported it into the file drop box the offer along with a separate document of my PS.
  • You will have to reach out to your LOR writers and have them email their LORs to the email they provide to you.
  • All teachers are bilingual (Spanish and English)
  • A good chunk of the students will be Spanish speaking only, so be prepared.
  • I am not a perfect Spanish speaker, but they do give me the impression that they have ways around it if you’re not the best spanish speaker like me. But you definitely need a certain level of Spanish speaking abilities.

I am an intermediate level Spanish speaker/reader. I’m not grammatically perfect but I know how to communicate with Spanish speakers at an intermediate level. I have experience providing patient care dental one on one with Spanish speaking families.
Sweet! Thank you for sharing your experiences and information you received!

At some point, I hope a cost of attendance info sheet will go up, which should include anticipated costs for instrument kits. IT should also be of interest. I'll have to find out what their inaugural class size is planned to be;' since it's such a short application window, it can't be something as large as 100 people.

I'm guessing that's why the GoDental ADEA team threw out the call for applications for UAGM.
 
I would be able to practice dentistry in the US if ended up graduating from UAGM dental right?
 
I would be able to practice dentistry in the US if ended up graduating from UAGM dental right?
I presume so. Puerto Rico is part of the United States as a commonwealth, and the med students who graduate from PR universities can practice medicine in the US, from last I checked.
 
PNWU School of Dental Medicine anticipates authorization to receive AADSAS applications in August 2024, according to their guide for applicants, distributed to those on their prospective applicant list for virtual recruitment events.

Highlights summarized:
1) Applications must be sent through AADSAS.
2) Applications will be screened and invitations to ON-CAMPUS interviews will be extended. Those who cannot attend an in-person interview (including hardships/circumstances) should contact the Office of Admissions for possible virtual/online options.
3) Casper and Kira Talent Assessment must be taken before your on-campus interview. They should send you a link to their KT site.
NOTE: Several PNWU programs use a Kira Talent assessment with questions chosen by each program faculty; you must take the one for the School of Dental Medicine even if you took a different PNWU KT.
4) First round of offers will be scheduled with other AADSAS first-round offers in December.
 
Bumping the thread as I went on an admissions visit and tour at NEOMED. Interesting takeaways, but things can change.

50 person class, not mandated regarding IS (but have to confirm).

Community dentistry is the top mission. Clinical D3/D4 will have some students out working in FQHC or similar community clinics. So far secured 40+ sites.

Remodel/refurbishing spaces on campus, including clinics with operatory spaces for special needs adults and children.

Tuition around $55K. No decision on instruments (rent or buy) or sterilization spaces. Financial aid... well, they are part of an existing university but we'll see how they manage. The director of admissions oversees all school admissions (including med and pharm).

Interprofessional learning with med and pharmacy students. Anatomy lab: dental students will dissect head and neck (med and pharm students don't dissect cadavers).

Mix of analog and digital dentistry, given the goal to train general dentists. Axiom as EHR, I think. 3D printing crowns.

Vision: DDS offered, integrative model of education to address oral health equity and integrate primary care into the dental office setting. Leverage existing NEOMED distributive clinical education network model, teach using student pairs. They are dedicated to provide resources that can keep tuition as low as possible.

Expect AADSAS to open this summer (waiting for August CODA decision), expect to make first round of offers on December 15 and follow AADSAS traffic rules (and rolling admissions). DAT will be required.

Standard prereqs (they do state credit hours): 1 year (8 cr) foundational bio (with labs), 1 year (8 cr) foundational inorganic chem + 1 year (8 cr) organic chem (with labs), 1 semester (3 cr) biochem, 1 semester (3 cr) physics (algebra or calculus).

Recommended courses: 3 cr stats (including health-studies-related stats), 1 semester (3 cr) college algebra or calculus which is likely a requirement/coreq for calculus or physics anyway, 1 semester (3 cr) microbiology, 1 semester (3 cr) cell biology, 1 semester (3 cr) biochem 2nd semester if offered/available.

Dental exposure (shadowing or employment): 40 hrs minimum, no affidavit required to verify hours. Dental-related employment is recommended but not required (you don't have to be a DA). Research is recommended but not required (value more advanced application of scientific inquiry in the health professions). Active service in community or campus organizations is encouraged but not required.

Two LORs/evals are encouraged but must be uploaded through AADSAS. They will not accept LOR's or transcripts sent directly to NEOMED. I didn't ask about LOI's, but considering the office of admissions is centralized, you may expect a similar policy to the medical and pharmacy programs (likely discourage updates, but ask them).
 
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Will NEOMED accept mostly OH residents?
As I mentioned, there is probably a similar "bias" but OOS students will likely be accepted.

NEOMED MD last MSAR stats: IS 973 applied, 573 interviewed, 127 matriculated; OOS 3700 applied, 319 interviewed, 47 matriculated from 15 states. Mission fit alignment will help you. NEOMED PharmD has 64 students. Note that both programs also have guaranteed admissions tracks to enroll students outside of their central application services.
 
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The Pacific Northwest University of Health Sciences - School of Dental Medicine will utilize the Casper online situational judgment assessment as a crucial part of its holistic review process. Your performance in this test will play a significant role in evaluating your application. We strongly recommend that if you plan to apply to our program, you take the test before the end of August 2024. ...

The Kira Talent assessment is also a requirement, but it is an “on-demand assessment,” meaning it can be taken at a later time. If you are invited for an interview, you will receive instructions on taking the Kira Talent assessment.

(Emailed to prospective applicants)
 
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For the schools that don’t require the DAT, what is their reasoning behind it?


Based on an extensive review of published data about the Dental Admissions Test (DAT), it was determined that the benefits didnot outweigh the cost and access concerns with the current DAT. While the DAT is a useful predictor of candidate performance infirst- and second-year biomedical courses, we are opting for alternative standardized assessments that evaluate more nonacademic attributes. We recognize knowledge can be evaluated through longitudinal performance in courses and work experiencethat may not be well captured in the DAT at this time. Individuals may submit their DAT; however, it is not an evaluated criterion.
 
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