Dmd?

[predentchick]

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What does that stand for? The dentist I work for has it, I read on one of his certificates that it is Doctor of Dental Medicine. Wouldn't that be DDM? Just curious..........

 

[dr_benj]

I have heard both Doctor of Dental Medicine and Doctor of Medical Dentistry. I guess the latter matches the DMD better, but I think it sounds weird.

 

[LestatZinnie]

DMD is latin acronym. Actually MD is NOT abbrev. for Medical Doctor, but Medicinae Doctor, which is latin. for DMD, it's Doctoris Medicinae Dentariae.

hope this helps.

 

[Bickle]

If you go to a school that awards DMD degrees, can you still advertise yourself as a DDS (since they are equivalent)?

 

[momowheels]

No. The reason is because the boards that schools who offer a DDS and DMD program give is different. For example if NYU gives a DMD to their graduates and San Antonio gives a DDS is because the boards are different. To get one or the other you will have to take the boards in that school or state.

 

[Pi__Guy1]

NYU awards DDS...just wanted to throw that out there...

Originally posted by momowheels
No. The reason is because the boards that schools who offer a DDS and DMD program give is different. For example if NYU gives a DMD to their graduates and San Antonio gives a DDS is because the boards are different. To get one or the other you will have to take the boards in that school or state.

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

the boards are different???

who told you that???

Thats a joke. the boards are the same

 

[critterbug]

are you sure? Becasue I heard the Florida Boards were a nightmare compared to others?

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

that has nothing to do with the title

both DMD and DDS work in FL...and they both take the same board

I will take the same board as UF grads...they have a DMD degree and I will have a DDS

DMD or DDS is up to the school as to what they give you. DDS was around first but Harvard was the first to give DMD bec they wanted all of their degrees to be in latin...only reason

 

[critterbug]

Oh. I thought you were making a blanket statement about state boards not being different.

 

[critterbug]

I really don't know. But I was under the impression that different regions offer different boards to practice in their respective state(s). And that these board exams were all in all essentially equivalent, but did have differences.

I guess I'm wrong, but I have heard that some regions have difficult board exams. States such as Nevada, California, and Florida. Why would someone point out the these boards were "hard" if they weren't speaking in a relative tone?

Disclaimer:

I am a lowly pre-dent and essentially know *jack* about this topic 🙂

 

[Bickle]

Originally posted by critterbug
I really don't know. But I was under the impression that different regions offer different boards to practice in their respective state(s). And that these board exams were all in all generally equivalent, but did have differences.

Your right. The Cali and Fl boards are supposed to be the hardest.

 

[ItsGavinC]

Originally posted by Dentaldream
If you go to a school that awards DMD degrees, can you still advertise yourself as a DDS (since they are equivalent)?

No, but why would you want to? Patients don't know much about degrees, all they care is that you are licensed to practice.

 

[Balki]

As I understand the difference is that many schools in New England are trying to
start a different approach in dentistry. As my dentist explained DDS, at least they way people used to think for a long time, is a degree that makes you money only if you actually d something, i.e root canal, or partials etc. Physicians for example don't have to do anything (they are not surgeons granted) got get paid. For example patients comes in an Physician's oppinion already will coast you good hundret. This is not they case with much of the dentistry in NYC. Usually (and it's a big usually) Dentist will get paid if he/she actually performs the root canal, and the concultation or recommendation to get one will most likely to be free. Now I believe DMD is actually a shift of Dentistry to be more like much of general medicine. Where professional oppinion will count as much as the actualy process.
Again I might be completely off here, but this is what I have been told by many docotrs. With vivid examples which I can present if anyone is interested.
I am sure other people will add as well

 

[ItsGavinC]

Originally posted by critterbug


I guess I'm wrong, but I have heard that some regions have difficult board exams. States such as Nevada, California, and Florida.

Some states do have difficult exams, and they do so in an effort to keep new dentists from entering the state.

I would argue that Nevada is by far the hardest, especially if the stories on DentalTown are true.

BUT NOTE: reciprocity is now available in most states, so if you practice for 5 years, all you have to do is pay a fee and then you can practice in Nevada (or other states).

 

[Bickle]

Originally posted by ItsGavinC
No, but why would you want to? Patients don't know much about degrees, all they care is that you are licensed to practice.

Just wondering

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

read my statement above...thats the only difference

Harvard wanted latin and they got it.

 

[ItsGavinC]

Originally posted by momowheels
No. The reason is because the boards that schools who offer a DDS and DMD program give is different. For example if NYU gives a DMD to their graduates and San Antonio gives a DDS is because the boards are different. To get one or the other you will have to take the boards in that school or state.

Completely false.

The boards are the SAME for dental students. Remember, this conversation is about DEGREES (DDS vs DMD), and SCHOOLS award degrees.

The two degrees are the same, and in order to get those degrees you have to pass the NBDE I and II. Those are NATIONAL exams and students take the SAME exams.

State exams merely license you to practice, but have NOTHING to do with your degree.

 

[DrNo2000]

from UPENN's dental school website:

"...The degree of Doctor of Dental Surgery, in its literal meaning, fails to indicate the evolving scope of preparation in dental medicine...Dentariae Medicinae Doctoris, D.M.D., or Doctor of Dental Medicine, better reflects the intention of the School to serve the causes of prevention, diagnosis, and treatment of dental diseases without limitation..." http://www.dental.upenn.edu/about/history.html

As the person above me mentioned, both degrees are the same. Harvard was the first to award DMD (as mentioned earlier) because they considered dentistry a branch of medicine, and also they wanted to write their diplomas in latin!

Why does it matter anyway?

 

[Bickle]

I guess Harvard has a LOT of influence on the other schools out there.

 

[DrNo2000]

Yes they do. USC for instance, has the same method of teaching as Harvard, the PBL (problem based learning), which I think is very stupid!

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

From the ADA website:


What is the difference between a DDS and a DMD?

The DDS (Doctor of Dental Surgery) and DMD (Doctor of Dental Medicine) are the same degrees. The difference is a matter of semantics. The majority of dental schools award the DDS degree; however, some award a DMD degree. The education and degrees are the same.

http://www.ada.org/public/topics/dds_dmd.asp

I believe no one could argue that quote.

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

Hey Gavin, has Arizona decided yet?

How much say do students have in the decision?

 

[busupshot83]

Originally posted by Dentaldream
Your right. The Cali and Fl boards are supposed to be the hardest.

doh! wait... i still need to get accepted 😳

 

[gryffindor]

As to the Florida, California, and Nevada boards being the "hardest" - the difficult part of these boards is not the denitstry. A class II amalgam is the same in New York as it is in California. The prep has to have certain ideals to hold the amalgam and the restoration has to contact the adjacent tooth. I haven't fully explored this topic of taking boards for other states yet, but from what I gather, the hard part of these exams is stupid nonsense things like following rules and arranging instruments and putting the napkin on properly.

And like someone mentioned, they control the pass rates on these exams to control the number of dentists entering those states.

 

[comatose]

BUT NOTE: reciprocity is now available in most states, so if you practice for 5 years, all you have to do is pay a fee and then you can practice in Nevada (or other states).


Can you explain this in more detail please? I really don't plan on practicing in my state, and I don't feel like waiting five years to move either. Also, if you have the military scholarship, will you be able to practice in any state once you finish your time.

 

[ItsGavinC]

Originally posted by DrNo2000
Yes they do. USC for instance, has the same method of teaching as Harvard, the PBL (problem based learning), which I think is very stupid!

Umm, have you ever experienced PBL? It's a fantastic way to learn.

 

[ItsGavinC]

Originally posted by comatose


Can you explain this in more detail please? I really don't plan on practicing in my state, and I don't feel like waiting five years to move either. Also, if you have the military scholarship, will you be able to practice in any state once you finish your time.

You must pass a regional licensing exam to practice in the US. Certain states have their own exams, however, and those states are now moving towards reciprocity.

MOST states honor various regional licensure exams, so this really isn't a problem. For example, the WREB (Western licensure exam) is valid in many western states, but also accepted throughout many states in the mid-west and east.

It all depends on where you want to practice, and then what exam you need to take.

 

[aphistis]

Originally posted by ItsGavinC
Umm, have you ever experienced PBL? It's a fantastic way to learn.

Yes, but many people prefer spoon-feeding to independent thought--usually the ones who will make second-rate clinicians down the road.

 

[ItsGavinC]

True, different peeps learn different ways, but my experience is that PBL really causes me to focus in on differential diagnosis and betters my diagnostic skills.