Do 4+2 Vascular programs still exist?

[DeadCactus]

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Maybe a dumb question, but I can't seem to find a listing of them. Have they all given way to the Integrated 5 year model?

 

[ACSurgeon]

Maybe a dumb question, but I can't seem to find a listing of them. Have they all given way to the Integrated 5 year model?

Not sure about a 4+2, but it was traditionally a 5+2 (or if you did research in residency 7+2). Obviously the '2' in this case is a seperate fellowship that you apply to as a PGY4 Gen Surg resident. These still exist.

Regarding integrated programs, my understanding is that there a few different models (3+2, 0+5 etc) usually with the first number being gen surg years.

 

[SocialistMD]

Yes, but they aren't programs into which you match directly, nor were they ever. Wash U still has one, but you have to match into general surgery, then, for lack of a better term, "prove yourself" to get the spot.

 

[DeadCactus]

Ah, got ya. Thank you.

 

[Skialta]

OHSU has a 4+2 program. Same deal, you have to be a general surgery resident at OHSU to apply to it.

Skialta

 

[PandaGoGAR]

University of Southern California has one. ACGME rules only allows residents who are currently in the General Surgery Program at the same institution to do the ESP program (4+2). Agreeing with the previous post.. its basically a prove yourself to the program kind of deal.

 

[beansprouts1]

I might be mistaken, but I believe UT SW has a 4+2 (or 2+4 I'm not sure) program as well.