Do D.O. schools see the old grade after it was repeated

[Midom]

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I've gotten basically all A's one B+ and a B and a C+ in my college career in my premed classes. The C+ was in Organic Chem 2 and I was wondering if I retake it get an A, will the schools see that it was repeated and see the old grade? Thanks guys!

 

[ZedsDed]

They will see it. DO schools won't factor it into your GPA, but they will still see it.

 

[Lord Boko]

So what if there was a student who did absolutely awful his first two undergrad years and then did great his junior and senior years, then went back and used grade replacement to bring his gpa to >3.7 the school would see the old grades but would they care? Also what if someone were to take a course, fail it, retake it, get a C and retake it a second time for an A? How would schools view that? And retakes done at community colleges? Are they a bad idea?

 

[ZedsDed]

I don't think the retakes at a CC will be a huge problem. I think you know the answer to the rest of your questions. Yes, they will care; and yes, you better ace everything else from here on out. Yes, it is possible to succeed and get into med school.

 

[change4med]

So what if there was a student who did absolutely awful his first two undergrad years and then did great his junior and senior years, then went back and used grade replacement to bring his gpa to >3.7 the school would see the old grades but would they care? Also what if someone were to take a course, fail it, retake it, get a C and retake it a second time for an A? How would schools view that? And retakes done at community colleges? Are they a bad idea?

Imagine if you were them and you see all of this, how you would treat it is how they would treat it. I think if you do that for a lot of the hypotheticals you'll be fine.

(If it were me on adcom: This guy was immature first two years, but once he began taking school more seriously he started living up to his potential with that upwards trend. Would I see the old grades and not care? Not really, if there was 1 spot left and this candidate and another candidate with the same EC's and stats (without retakes) were fighting for it, then I would probably lean more towards the second candidate.

Personally if I saw you fail a course, retake and get a C, and retake one more time for an A, I'd think you were persistent (and if you were a 3.7+ then I think you'd be fine, some subjects are just harder to grasp than others)- would I prefer a guy who got an A in it the first time? Of course, but I wouldn't instasink your app over your 2 retakes.

I took classes at a CC, I didn't do retakes at CC. I think as long as your junior and senior years are consistent with your retake grades at a CC then it should be okay.)

 

[Lord Boko]

I don't think the retakes at a CC will be a huge problem. I think you know the answer to the rest of your questions. Yes, they will care; and yes, you better ace everything else from here on out. Yes, it is possible to succeed and get into med school.

Sorry for the obvious questions. It just looks to me that grade replacement has so many what ifs attached to it. The premed advisors at my school seem to try to groom students to apply to only Texas schools and, with the exception of TCOM, they quickly change the subject when it comes to DO schools no matter how much I try to convey that I want to go to a DO school eventually, so I don't have much of a background on how it works other than what I've learned here on SDN.

 

[Goro]

Yes, and no

So what if there was a student who did absolutely awful his first two undergrad years and then did great his junior and senior years, then went back and used grade replacement to bring his gpa to >3.7 the school would see the old grades but would they care?

If the other grades are OK, it won't matter.
Also what if someone were to take a course, fail it, retake it, get a C and retake it a second time for an A? How would schools view that?

Perfectly OK.
And retakes done at community colleges? Are they a bad idea?