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[ksmajmudar]

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Use of the MD Title: The Wisconsin Medical Society

• Defends the use of the MD title by physicians who graduated with an MBBS and are licensed to practice medicine in Wisconsin.

http://www.wisconsinmedicalsociety.org/_WMS/legislation/_files/pdf/compendium/practice97-112.pdf

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😕 That's a very specific example. Could you please find some literature that pertains to the majority of the US?

I'm not claiming one way or another on this issue, I would just rather see more relevant information cited to make such a broad, sweeping claim.

 

[Aislinn]

Indeed. They currently *cannot* do that and the Wisconsin medical society feels its dumb and supports their ability to do so in the near future. Doesn't change that they still can't currently.

Please cite a source that claims they currently can't do that in the state of Wisconsin.

😕 That's a very specific example. Could you please find some literature that pertains to the majority of the US?

I'm not claiming one way or another on this issue, I would just rather see more relevant information cited to make such a broad, sweeping claim.

There isn't literature that pertains to the majority of the US. I believe it's up to each individual state and some of the states I researched specifically don't address the issue.

 

[DocEspana]

Please cite a source that claims they currently can't do that in the state of Wisconsin.



There isn't literature that pertains to the majority of the US. I believe it's up to each individual state and some of the states I researched specifically don't address the issue.

Its up to the individual states yes. 49 of them do not allow it. Wisconsin is the only one that has taken a positive stance on this. The rest of the states follow the same logic of "They're equivalent and this is stupid, but you should still sign orders with your correct degree". A far too extensive search of various medical societies (And eventually just realizing the futility after about 10 state societies and 9 department of health websites, I broke down and checked wikipedia) shows Wisconsin is the only one to allow the MBBS/MBBCh to MD switch, and even that is simply the stance of the state society, and doesn't actually represent the law of Wisconsin.

 

[Osteotastic]

Nice post....

Don't give up so easily,

Unfortunately DO's continue to shoot themselves in the feet on attempts at progress in this area. The reasons for this are primarily due to the boys club structure of the AOA leadership. Its not democratic representation of the DO populations wishes. The AOA is dictated by crusty OMMers and their brain washed spoon fed proteges that lapped up the Kool-Aid.

We are seeing real issues here in terms of DO students being shut out of residencies and ACGME/LCME doing more and more to restrict our access to training and opportunities.

A degree that a designation change is not the ultimate solution but believe that it is a step in the right direction. A step toward more broad recognition of our training and what we actually do vs being represented by a small part of our training.

I have heard a program director state that he wanted to not have as high a number of DO's in the next residency class as to not send a signal of being a weak program.

We are sold the line of "strengthening the DO brand". People, we're not merchandise, we're doctors.

This is not about confidence in ourselves or our training. This is about a designation that recognizes what our training really is. And for those of you impassioned first and second year students being trained in OMM. I know it seems like its really going to be something you use a lot of and that is really significant. I've been hard on OMM, I'll admit for acute musculoskeletal strains I think it has a place in soft tissue work but it's effects and capacities are far overstated and as practicing doctors this one small area of out training should not define our degree designation outright.
I for one have always been in favor of the title MDO as it adds the medical designation but retains the osteopathic portion. I think it is a more accurately representative title.