Do I stand alone on disliking EK 101?

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Obviously everyone has a right to their own opinion but its weird feeling so isolated on this issue. How is EK 101 helpful in anyway? The question formats are not the same in the slightest way all the do is ask ambiguous cheap shot questions at best. Princeton review seems to be much more like the real thing! Anyone else want to stand up and face this EK 101 oppressions? :luck:
 
Uh I'll come stand with you because I've been sitting for 12 hours studying and I like protests and I brought my own sign and I have no idea what you're talking about . . . but you don't have to stand alone. JERSEY PRIDE! DOWN WITH EK 101.

Now, what is EK 101?
 
Obviously everyone has a right to their own opinion but its weird feeling so isolated on this issue. How is EK 101 helpful in anyway? The question formats are not the same in the slightest way all the do is ask ambiguous cheap shot questions at best. Princeton review seems to be much more like the real thing! Anyone else want to stand up and face this EK 101 oppressions? :luck:
Ehh..its the best thing out there besides the actual AAMCs...so use it, if you have to.
 
Ehh..its the best thing out there besides the actual AAMCs...so use it, if you have to.
SO not true their questions are ridiculous! TPR seems much more similar to the AAMC plus the AAMC doesn't refer to specific line! I feel like everyone is hypnotized! lol
 
SO not true their questions are ridiculous! TPR seems much more similar to the AAMC plus the AAMC doesn't refer to specific line! I feel like everyone is hypnotized! lol

No way! TPR VR is ridiculous. I just took a diagnostic the other day and some of their verbal explanations were ridiculous, the answers were totally disputable. There's too much focus on details rather than the main idea. I don't really like TPR VR. It's good practice, but my scores on the AAMC correlate better to my EK scores rather than my TPR scores.
 
No way! TPR VR is ridiculous. I just took a diagnostic the other day and some of their verbal explanations were ridiculous, the answers were totally disputable. There's too much focus on details rather than the main idea. I don't really like TPR VR. It's good practice, but my scores on the AAMC correlate better to my EK scores rather than my TPR scores.
This is so strange.... I feel like EK focuses on the details and is unreasonable. I guess I got to be a loner on this one and do what works for me and ditch EK 101 lol. Then again this speakng from personal bias after doing 80 percent of the book and having an awful VR score
 
This is so strange.... I feel like EK focuses on the details and is unreasonable. I guess I got to be a loner on this one and do what works for me and ditch EK 101 lol. Then again this speakng from personal bias after doing 80 percent of the book and having an awful VR score

I agree half way with what you say. I really didn't find EK 101 helpful, but more so because the answer explanations were pointless. Many answers seemed arbitrary and I thought wrong in some cases. But I wouldn't say PR was much better, because I didn't think they were like my real MCAT. Then again, I only got a 10, so I'm not a verbal expert.

The problem with all of the materials I used, and I used them all, is that they were so busy trying to promote their techniques that they made passages that didn't match the MCAT. And the funny thing is that the techniques they each recommend all seem about the same, with different wording (except for Kaplan, which has terrible methods for a computer test).

You really should do all of the materials you can get your hands on, no matter what the source is. Around SDN, you'll find people who say great things and bad things about every verbal book out there. Just use them all and accept that each have their short comings as well as some helpful passages.
 
Don't just practice verbal, learn how to practice verbal, then practice it
 
you are not alone, though I sort of have a love/hate relationship with EK in that I love it in terms of making you think that the right answer is the "best" choice even though it sounds like an answer someone created after smoking some .... I find this approach really does help with the mcat and i'm most likely going to end up taking the test this way. so anyway, i also hate it because i sometimes find that certain questions have wrong answers that are so easy to spot like if the question asks what challenges a point in the passage, they will give you three wrong answers that actually supports the point whereas TPR doesn't do this, their wrong answer choices varies (so they sort of slap your hand saying not so fast!). I'm thinking people are saying EK is like the real thing because it tests more of the main idea or rather have alot of implied,conclusion questions which you can't find word for word in the passages (TPR likes to do this); you have to obtain the general direction of the passage and learn to eliminate the wrong answers first (basically, you can't always find the exact answer or the exact main idea with such a short amount of time). Yes, I thank god for the other three choices because imagine a test where you were graded on the accuracy of your summaries of the passages. OMG just shoot me now! But then also, I see some overlapping in strategy between the materials in that by knowing the main idea of the passages, you can eliminate wrong answers by just having that "feel" for what is or is not stated in the passage. That's why I believe people say just practice everything or as much as you can because the basic strategy of improving your verbal is there just that the different practice materials have slightly different styles.

As for explanations to the answers, AAMC does the most horrible job explaining things, their explanations are more horrific than the passages!! so I decided to create my own explanations like "this is not the answer because you didn't pay attention to the key words that the author did not talk about at all you *****!!! argg!" though I find EK's explanations and TPR explanations aren't exactly the greatest either, but are in a language i can understand at least.

I'm just going to do it all damn it and try to understand the basic framework of how these questions and answers came to be. By doing all three types of materials, I am starting to see a pattern and hopefully when i'm taking the aamc and the mcat, I'll have those "ah ha!" moments where I am starting to see how the test writers "think." I don't know, some people on here who destroyed the mcat and then even kicked the mcat while it was laying on the ground seem to say it's important to figure out how the test writers "think."

what is with me? i always seem to write these long paragraphs that no one wants to really read hahaha ... back to my bat cave to study🙂
 
i agree 100% with the OP. the only real use i got out of EK 101 was TIMING. for me, this was the most crucial aspect of verbal, and EK offered lots of passages to practice with.
 
If you know the details, you COMPREHEND the material inside and out... and you'll do better on the MCAT. Stop being lazy and learn it right, not superficially... I did all the EK stuff and I'm doing mid 30s on the AAMCs...
 
If you know the details, you COMPREHEND the material inside and out... and you'll do better on the MCAT. Stop being lazy and learn it right, not superficially... I did all the EK stuff and I'm doing mid 30s on the AAMCs...
Using Ek doesn't necessarily cause your score in the mid-thirties.

When I said excessive details I meant cheap pointless ones if I were at home right now Id find one of many examples.
 
Yeah, I feel the same. I actually put up a topic in the Q&A forum about it, but got no responses. I feel like EK is incredibly ambiguous, and not just in verbal. Their physics questions seem to be written without a very strong grasp of physics... some questions have involve unclear situations which cause lots of contradictions. I've found that the AAMC's are much fairer, and if you get a question wrong on an AAMC test you can always clearly justify why.

I hope the real MCAT doesn't "dumb down" physics as much or else I'm going to lose a lot of points overthinking questions!
 
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