Do not go western

[GimliSonOfGloin]

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Do not go to westernu. I'm so glad im not going to apply there. I have been researching to school and talking to quite few student there and every body has nothing good to say about the school I ahve been talking to 2 year and 1 year student too. Take look at there curiculum too because it looks like they have student take classes that are not on the boards exam for example psychology in first year and reproduction 2 year. I have talked to 2 year and 1 year student and they say that the 2 years have 10 student who dropped out out of a class of about 35 and the 1 years have 4 student drop out just in the first semester so there is basically a 1/3 chance you will drop out after the first year. This doesnt sound good at all or right to me. I write about western a lot here just because i here so many bad things about the program and want to warn others who think of going there. Also I would not listen to this Dorozon lady because I here she is actually a western faculty. I am glad i wont be applying there

If any body else knows of bad things about western post them here so every body can be informed and make informed decision when one person chooses a school.

With love and God Bless America,
-Gimli, Son of Gloin, Son of Groin, Son of Farin, Son of Borin, Son of Durin

 

[Sig Savant]

Thats your opinion. Many others have different opinions. Remember that your opinion is just that, yours only. You shouldn't post saying "Do not go to western" because others may feel quite different, and you could be stopping them from going somewhere where they would thrive. Other than that, sounds like a lot of hearsay. Also, have someone proofread your admissions essays.

 

[Zetch]

haha its GimlinSonOfGloin.

How did you access the students and spoke to them? Seems you're trying to help but then again you're tanishing reputation of the school. Any western students want to confirm this claims?

 

[GimliSonOfGloin]

I think I am entitled to speak my mind and this is why America is so great and i love it so much. In China i would never be able to say what i say now so thats why i say what i say. See im posting my opinion and not forcing any body to list and read it and if they listen what i have to say (which they should) then thats there own deal. As for profreading my essays how about you worry about yhourself. Ive been doing fine and have gone to better school than you and am smarter than you and also will be more successful than you both in terms of money and happiness.

Also i do not think any body thrives at western. just ask some of there students. like the 10 and more students who dropped out and the more thinking to doing the same.

With love and God Bless America,
-Gimli, Son of Gloin, Son of Groin, Son of Farin, Son of Borin, Son of Durin

 

[emericana]

Do not go to westernu. I'm so glad im not going to apply there. I have been researching to school and talking to quite few student there and every body has nothing good to say about the school I ahve been talking to 2 year and 1 year student too. Take look at there curiculum too because it looks like they have student take classes that are not on the boards exam for example psychology in first year and reproduction 2 year. I have talked to 2 year and 1 year student and they say that the 2 years have 10 student who dropped out out of a class of about 35 and the 1 years have 4 student drop out just in the first semester so there is basically a 1/3 chance you will drop out after the first year. This doesnt sound good at all or right to me. I write about western a lot here just because i here so many bad things about the program and want to warn others who think of going there. Also I would not listen to this Dorozon lady because I here she is actually a western faculty. I am glad i wont be applying there

If any body else knows of bad things about western post them here so every body can be informed and make informed decision when one person chooses a school.

With love and God Bless America,
-Gimli, Son of Gloin, Son of Groin, Son of Farin, Son of Borin, Son of Durin

Do you ever have anything constructive to say?

 

[Sig Savant]

But really, you can PM me anything you need proofread. I'm always happy to help out a fellow member of this amazing country.

 

[GimliEditor]

Do not go to Western University. I am so glad that I'm not going to apply to that institution of higher learning. I have been researching the school and talking to quite a few students there and everybody has poor comments about the school. I have been talking to second and first year students too. Peruse their curriculum because it looks like their students take classes that are not on the APMLE. For example, psychology in the first year and reproduction in the second year. The students that I previously spoke with regarding their curriculum say that the attrition rate of the 2013 class is 10 out of 35. The first year students informed me that their attrition was about 4 students so far. This raw data led me to the conclusion that approximately one third of all matriculants fail to reach the second year.This data and interpretation trouble me. My constant internet violations of Western on this website stem from my overwhelming research and knowledge I have acquired, and my plan is to spread this knowledge forthwith in order to extend warning to other applicants. My spider sense was also tingling when Dorozon posted on these forums, as I have heard, through unconfirmed resources, that she may in fact be on staff at this fine institution and simply presenting herself as a student so as to seem more credible on the source. I have decided not to apply to this institution and and not regretting that decision.

Others that may be as smart as me and have done countless hours of legwork in researching this topic, please use this forum to spread your independently reached conclusions on the matter so that we may perform a meta analysis on the subject so that it is scientific in nature.

With love and God Bless America,
-GimliEditor, Son of Gloin, Son of Groin, Son of Farin, Son of Borin, Son of Durin

You are welcome.

 

[Saint419]

Seriously, get a life dude. Has this guy made a single post that wasn't related to bashing Western? I really wonder how he has all this "insider information" on Western while only being a pre-podiatry student supposedly looking into which podiatry school he wants to apply to? I would put money on the fact that this guy is one of the students who couldn't cut it at Western and judging from the timing of his first post on SDN, combined with all his whining about how mean the faculty is, I have a pretty good idea of who it is. I'm sure you probably think you're hurting Western with your posts, but I can assure you that people reading your posts are just laughing at you and saying "No **** this guy couldn't make it".

Since you obviously have not quite gotten the hang of the English language, here's a free lesson. This quotation from you falls under the term "irony":
"Ive been doing fine and have gone to better school than you and am smarter than you and also will be more successful than you both in terms of money and happiness."

 

[TheFootDoc]

This dude is hilarious.
His english sucks though.

Dude, please have some respect for the language.

 

[dtrack22]

Ameeeerricaaaaa....somebody finish it for me

 

[shenanigans327]

I think I am entitled to speak my mind and this is why America is so great and i love it so much. In China i would never be able to say what i say now so thats why i say what i say. See im posting my opinion and not forcing any body to list and read it and if they listen what i have to say (which they should) then thats there own deal. As for profreading my essays how about you worry about yhourself. Ive been doing fine and have gone to better school than you and am smarter than you and also will be more successful than you both in terms of money and happiness.

Also i do not think any body thrives at western. just ask some of there students. like the 10 and more students who dropped out and the more thinking to doing the same.

With love and God Bless America,
-Gimli, Son of Gloin, Son of Groin, Son of Farin, Son of Borin, Son of Durin

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul." 😉

 

[deleted285117]

Gimli's my favorite poster ever.👍

 

[GimliSonOfGloin]

I guess on student doctor network forum there is no such thing as discusing is that not what forum are for? And Saint419 I do not, have not, and will never go learn at Western. In fact i find it quiet pathetic that you "know" who I am and now thank you for showing us all what student types they have at western. Stuck up types who think poor of student who dropped out and say mean hearted comment about them. Truth is is that you dont know any thing about me and who I am but I know you act like you are big behind a mobile computer but you are really a tiny person in herat soul and mind. I sure bet you feel good that people drop. I sure bet it makes you feel like a big man inside. Happy to know what some student are like or maybe Saint is faculties.

in mean time please be kind and explain to us everyone on student doctor network forum why you take antomy only for the 1 semester year 1? Behavoral Medicine and psychiatry? blood and lymphatic? renal? respiratory? reproductive? gastrointestitinal? I here lot of thes are not on bourds and that these classes student fail and get drop because of these classes.

With love (except for Saint) and God Bless America,
-Gimli, Son of Gloin, Son of Groin, Son of Farin, Son of Borin, Son of Durin

 

[Paulywog]

In mean time please be kind and explain to us everyone on student doctor network forum why you take antomy only for the 1 semester year 1? Behavoral Medicine and psychiatry? blood and lymphatic? renal? respiratory? reproductive? gastrointestitinal? I here lot of thes are not on bourds and that these classes student fail and get drop because of these classes.

With love (except for Saint) and God Bless America,
-Gimli, Son of Gloin, Son of Groin, Son of Farin, Son of Borin, Son of Durin

All of those subjects are covered on the boards except behavioral sciences and psychiatry. They fall under the anatomy and Physiology sections of the boards.

 

[GimliSonOfGloin]

Goodbye Student Doctor Network Forum. You will never here from me again.

With love and God Bless America,
-Gimli, Son of Gloin, Son of Groin, Son of Farin, Son of Borin, Son of Durin

 

[Saint419]

Goodbye Student Doctor Network Forum. You will never here from me again.

With love and God Bless America,
-Gimli, Son of Gloin, Son of Groin, Son of Farin, Son of Borin, Son of Durin

👍

 

[dyk343]

Goodbye Student Doctor Network Forum. You will never here from me again.

With love and God Bless America,
-Gimli, Son of Gloin, Son of Groin, Son of Farin, Son of Borin, Son of Durin

👎

 

[hematosis]

Hahahahha. god this is so funny.

Gimli please don't leave student doctor. use this forum to enhance your English skills.


ps could i read your personal statement?

 

[darazon]

Also I would not listen to this Dorozon lady because I here she is actually a western faculty.

Wow. I'm a faculty member and a chick! Shows how good your "inside" information is (please check my previous 150+ posts).

Everyone else, come interview at Western and actually talk to us -the students, you will quickly find that what Gimli say, simply isn't true.

Yes, there were a couple of disgruntled students. They are now gone (one academic and one just up and left). You get them at every school. As for 10 "dropping out." That is false and misleading information. Whomever told you that obviously had a grudge towards the school and is feeding you a bunch of BS. You claim that you are so smarter than everyone else on here and will so much more successful, but your so gullible when it comes to stuff about Western.

Here are the actual stats:

We started with a class of 38 (not 35). To date we are at 29 (lost 9, not 10).
1 left to pursue an MBA
1 left for their own reasons
2 dismissed for academics
3 had to repeat a year because of academics (all doing fantastic now)
1 was told to repeat and then left.
1 was going to have to repeat but left before the decision was made (I believe the individual has given up on podiatry since this was their second pod school).

Buy hey, what do I know Gimli, I'm just a "pig" right? I'm just glad you're not coming to Western!

 

[air bud]

Wow. I'm a faculty member and a chick! Shows how good your "inside" information is (please check my previous 150+ posts).

Everyone else, come interview at Western and actually talk to us -the students, you will quickly find that what Gimli say, simply isn't true.

Yes, there were a couple of disgruntled students. They are now gone (one academic and one just up and left). You get them at every school. As for 10 "dropping out." That is false and misleading information. Whomever told you that obviously had a grudge towards the school and is feeding you a bunch of BS. You claim that you are so smarter than everyone else on here and will so much more successful, but your so gullible when it comes to stuff about Western.

Here are the actual stats:

We started with a class of 38 (not 35). To date we are at 29 (lost 9, not 10).
1 left to pursue an MBA
1 left for their own reasons
2 dismissed for academics
3 had to repeat a year because of academics (all doing fantastic now)
1 was told to repeat and then left.
1 was going to have to repeat but left before the decision was made (I believe the individual has given up on podiatry since this was their second pod school).

Buy hey, what do I know Gimli, I'm just a "pig" right? I'm just glad you're not coming to Western!

That is a pretty high number of people lost for academic reasons. Don't get me wrong, I am all for dismissing people. Without speculating too much, (and I understand if you don't want to reply) any insight on why people had academic reasons? Any trends? Did the curriculum style not work for them since it is so different from the traditional model? Were they people right out of undergrad? Should they never have been accepted in the first place? Was it apparent from day one? Again, I am all for a tough curriculum and only the strongest survive. No holding hands here.

 

[itswiggles]

- I will be starting at Western this Fall. During my interview each faculty member I talked with stressed the importance of how difficult the current curriculum is, and did not sugar coat the course load by any means. I can't speak from experience but just from what the faculty/professors told me. I have talked to a few current pod students at Western and every time I talk with them they all have the same response of how hard the curriculum is and they are constantly studying everyday all day. If you look at the curriculum on Western's website you can judge it to see how "hard" it is compared to your own school's curriculum ( if you are a current pod student ). Either way, despite Grimli haha, I am looking forward to starting this Fall.

 

[darazon]

That is a pretty high number of people lost for academic reasons. Don't get me wrong, I am all for dismissing people. Without speculating too much, (and I understand if you don't want to reply) any insight on why people had academic reasons? Any trends? Did the curriculum style not work for them since it is so different from the traditional model? Were they people right out of undergrad? Should they never have been accepted in the first place? Was it apparent from day one? Again, I am all for a tough curriculum and only the strongest survive. No holding hands here.

I think everyone who was dismissed academically had many reasons why they didn't make the cut. No trends that I can see -everyone was different.

As for this "Gimli" poster. I've heard from numerous people that he/she is a ticked off ex-Western student. I was surprised and sad to hear about it, because I thought I was friends with this individual. He/she de-friended everyone at Western on Facebook and then openly attacked us and the school here on SDN.

So please, take what Gimli has said with a grain of salt and check Western out for yourself and come to your own opinion.

 

[Iamyourfaja]

If Gimli types in broken English, I would love to hear how he actually speaks the language!

 

[doc1107]

Well if what Darazon states is true about their curriculum it looks like the pod students take ALL the medical school courses that the western DO students take. This def gives Western the most difficult curriculum out of all the podiatry schools in my opinion.

I am thinking that is because they just wanted a Podiatry school as fast as they can. Think about it, 40-ish students paying 30 grands each, that's a lot of money! So in the rush to get a Podiatry program going, they just said "the heck with curriculum planning, just change the heading of the DO curriculum to Pod.

This is just my opinion, but it just seems like they have every single health processional program there and no specialization. With that huge increase in such a short time, quality is bound to slip.

 

[dtrack22]

doc thinks wrong. Have you never heard of Vision 2015??

 

[Shireiqiang]

Yeah, Western is definately tough. I haven't attended there, but when I interviewed I looked at the curriculum. They have a pretty packed schedule. The sad reality of that type of curriculum is high attrition rates and lower GPAs. Darazon would you agree?

 

[dtrack22]

Shireiqiang, how many times have you been sunburned since moving to AZ? I'm a little jealous...

 

[janV88]

Yeah, Western is definately tough. I haven't attended there, but when I interviewed I looked at the curriculum. They have a pretty packed schedule. The sad reality of that type of curriculum is high attrition rates and lower GPAs. Darazon would you agree?

Wouldn't that lead to higher quality graduates?

 

[Shireiqiang]

Wouldn't that lead to higher quality graduates?

Are you suggesting that one school may have more qualified students than another school even though the GPAs are lower? That is crazy talk...

Now back to something more important, dtrack, my tan has never been better... I am canadian though, so that may not be saying much. How are the tunnels treating you?

 

[dtrack22]

Tunnels are good. Although playing COD and not putting on pants for the last 3 days has been even better...I love spring break.

 

[doc1107]

I agree! Doc1107 this has everything to do with making podiatry more comparable with the MD/DO profession in the education aspect. No program would throw something together just for the hell of it. Paying 30K to take two years worth of medical school courses when the DO students probably pay more is a hell of a deal! 30k tuition is not even that expensive compared to some of the tuitions MD/DO students have to pay each year.

I'm going to say it right now...Western's curriculum is by far the most challenging...hands down.

It is a bargain if one gets a DO degree with it. A DPM for 30 K a year is the a few K more than other schools.

 

[doc1107]

doc thinks wrong. Have you never heard of Vision 2015??

Taking the Vision 2015 defense a little too far... yes, we want parity with MD/DO, but it is a fact that somethings are different between DPM and MD/DO. SO MD/DO do not spend an year on lower limb anatomy, according to your argument, Pod school need to scale back on Lower Anatomy. 😱

 

[janV88]

Taking the Vision 2015 defense a little too far... yes, we want parity with MD/DO, but it is a fact that somethings are different between DPM and MD/DO. SO MD/DO do not spend an year on lower limb anatomy, according to your argument, Pod school need to scale back on Lower Anatomy. 😱

We already take the "same" subjects as the med students. All they've done at Western is put the podiatry students side by side with the med students taking the same exams, etc. They still take lower anatomy, biomechanics, etc.

Let me put it this way. If you go to a stand alone school that does not take classes with med students, who is to say that your education isn't watered down?? If you take classes with med students you can without a doubt say you received equal education as them. You would have parity.

Are you suggesting that one school may have more qualified students than another school even though the GPAs are lower? That is crazy talk...

My bad. I thought you were insinuating that low GPAs and high attrition was a bad thing.