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Hi folks, I REALLY appreciate your help on this.

Initially, I took the DAT twice. I got 1 interview only and was put on the waiting list. I thought I would take the DAT for the third time to increase my chance to get in especially after being on the wait-list for 6 months but my third scores were the worst, and finally I got rejected. Now I am applying for next year and was allowed to take the DAT one final time in December. How should I study?? I used Kaplan books for the first two attempts and Top-score + Kaplan for the third. How should I approach my last attempt??? here are my scores:

DAT 1:

PA 15
QR 15
RC 16
B: 17
GC 18
OC 15
TS17
AA 16

DAT 2:

PA 15
QR 15
RC 18
B: 21
GC 20
OC 19
TS 20
AA 19

DAT 3:

PA 18
QR 15
RC 13
B: 17
GC 19
OC 17
TS 18
AA 16

I've got B.A. in biology, GPA: 3.75.

Thank you so much:

Seriously? You have a major issue here you need to solve. You have a 3.75 GPA so you should be just fine on the DAT.

You either have an inflated GPA

-or-

You have some serious testing issues that you need to solve before you enter dental school anyway.

Were your topscores similar to the real deal?
 
Use the destroyer. you have fluctuated on several scores over the years. I would definately take time off and just study for the DAT for at least 2 months. Where did you go to school?
 
can u really take DAT 4th time ? I thought that 3rd time is the last.
 
My mistake was taking the first DAT without ANY study!

Effective January 2007: The 3rd DAT attempt is the last one. However, you can apply for a special permission to take the DAT for a fourth time.

Please guys, I need advice here, I don't want criticism! What should I do to make my fourth attempt significantly different?????
 
I'm not sure how much I can help, but you should already have a good idea of the real test. What it appears like to me is perhaps study skills? Maybe you should take the time to really understand the material and less pure memorizing. It's not a really difficult test if you put in the time. Just my .02
 
My mistake was taking the first DAT without ANY study!

Effective January 2007: The 3rd DAT attempt is the last one. However, you can apply for a special permission to take the DAT for a fourth time.

Please guys, I need advice here, I don't want criticism! What should I do to make my fourth attempt significantly different?????


I think you should cut your losses and go back to Premed. Dental isnt for Premed rejects. This field is meant for people who are genuinely interested in the field of dentistry and it obviously shows that you arent by your three failed DAT attempts and by the fact that you have also taken the MCAT and applied to med schools before and been rejected and now probably think Dental is the easier route. :laugh:
 
your second scores aren't bad, do they only accept the latest scores or the highest?
I have yet to take it but I know Kaplan and topscore are not enough. For Biology study from Campbell text book, go on the ADA website and get the outline of what topics need to be studied and study everyone in the textbook. Then get destroyer and practice questions, you obviously should know most of the material since you have a 3.75 so maybe its just test taking skills u need to improve on.
You probably need tostudy from a text book for gchem just to review things in more depth , so that you can get a better understanding of the material.
PAT: get CRACKDATPAT it helps a lot ..this is a subject that needs to be practiced constantly
QR: I dont know...im struggling with this myself , I got a GMAT book to practice but i havent taken it yet sooo...

Anyway just keep studyin and dont take it until your ready.

Good Luck
 
Use the destroyer. you have fluctuated on several scores over the years. I would definately take time off and just study for the DAT for at least 2 months. Where did you go to school?
This is what I think you should do. Keep trying.
 
I think you should cut your losses and go back to Premed. Dental isnt for Premed rejects. This field is meant for people who are genuinely interested in the field of dentistry and it obviously shows that you arent by your three failed DAT attempts and by the fact that you have also taken the MCAT and applied to med schools before and been rejected and now probably think Dental is the easier route. :laugh:

Hey man, BodybldgDoc, your negativity is neither warranted nor wanted here. If you're going to post bs like this, why don't you sit back and think before hitting the submit button. Your post offers nothing positive to this thread, to this board or to the dental community in general. If you don't have anything constructive to say move on.
 
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Hey man, BodybldgDoc, your negativity is neither warranted nor wanted here. If you're going to post bs like this, why don't you sit back and think before hitting the submit button. Your post offers nothing positive to this thread, to this board or to the dental community in general. If you don't have anything constructive to say move on.


Thank you PorkChop2008! You took the words out of my mouth!
 
Getting that one interview is like a miracle with your scores. But you know that if you do really well on the fourth test, the previous three scores don't matter. My advice is to do as many questions as possible and spend at least the double the amount of the time it took to do the questions. Good luck!
 
Hey man, BodybldgDoc, your negativity is neither warranted nor wanted here. If you're going to post bs like this, why don't you sit back and think before hitting the submit button. Your post offers nothing positive to this thread, to this board or to the dental community in general. If you don't have anything constructive to say move on.

what I posted was bs but telling this guy to take retake the DAT 10 times over isnt? Are you for real internet tough guy? Everyone has an opinion. If you dont like mine then I suggest you move on.
 
You need to mentally start your studying from scratch.
You must study like you are getting paid $100 per hour to study
You must master the following material:

Kaplan
Destroyer
Topscore
Achiever
Campbells or Schaums AP Biology
Crack Dat Pat
Schaums College Algebra Review
First 4 chapters in your Organic and Gen Chem textbooks
Examcrackers review questions
Audio Osmosis at all times you are not studying otherwise

If you can master these, you're gonna even out those shifting scores.

Do not casually surf SDN once you start studying, you are wasting time

No TV

No Movies

No Shopping

No Nothing

Period.

Hit the books and Good Luck 👍
 
You go PorkChop...BodybldgDoc, being a doctor or a dentist is about being a good listener and helper...it is about easing someone's pain...doctors who are genius but mean are definitely not needed...

give destroyer a try, and practice a lot, as if u r taking real DAT.. we know that DAT is from all over, and it is not just general knowledge about science, it is in depth knowledge about sciences. and hey, even after this u don't do great, don't despair...that is a sign, that you are supposed to be something else in life...you probly have a different mission...things happen for a reason...always remember😉


Hey man, BodybldgDoc, your negativity is neither warranted nor wanted here. If you're going to post bs like this, why don't you sit back and think before hitting the submit button. Your post offers nothing positive to this thread, to this board or to the dental community in general. If you don't have anything constructive to say move on.
 
what I posted was bs but telling this guy to take retake the DAT 10 times over isnt? Are you for real internet tough guy? Everyone has an opinion. If you dont like mine then I suggest you move on.


:laugh: Opinion's are like rectums, everyone has one. Only the insecure feel the need to belittle and put down others when they are vulnerable, especially on the internet. Hopefully you mature before you become a dentist BodybldgDoc, otherwise you'll have a very tough road ahead of you.
 
:laugh: Opinion's are like rectums, everyone has one. Only the insecure feel the need to belittle and put down others when they are vulnerable, especially on the internet. Hopefully you mature before you become a dentist BodybldgDoc, otherwise you'll have a very tough road ahead of you.


:laugh: O lordy lordy, you have opened my eyes o wise one. Praise Jebus, Praise allah and Praise teh almighty porkchop.
 
Hi folks, I REALLY appreciate your help on this.

Initially, I took the DAT twice. I got 1 interview only and was put on the waiting list. I thought I would take the DAT for the third time to increase my chance to get in especially after being on the wait-list for 6 months but my third scores were the worst, and finally I got rejected. Now I am applying for next year and was allowed to take the DAT one final time in December. How should I study?? I used Kaplan books for the first two attempts and Top-score + Kaplan for the third. How should I approach my last attempt??? here are my scores:

DAT 1:

PA 15
QR 15
RC 16
B: 17
GC 18
OC 15
TS17
AA 16

DAT 2:

PA 15
QR 15
RC 18
B: 21
GC 20
OC 19
TS 20
AA 19

DAT 3:

PA 18
QR 15
RC 13
B: 17
GC 19
OC 17
TS 18
AA 16

I've got B.A. in biology, GPA: 3.75.

Thank you so much:

What did you do to maintain that gpa of yours over the years? DAT is no different...so, if you're over analyzing, well, stop.

As for other "advice" nobody can give you any miracles on this forum...there are no secrets. You are much better off by reading the millions of DAT done threads. Those are probably the most helpful. As for study material...well, use the search function because it's been done to death a million times. Don't tell me you didn't have be resourceful in maintaining that gpa of yours. If there ever was a time to be resourceful...now is it.

Sorry if it sounds critical but you need to get used to criticism and I really hope for your sake that you are your harshest critic. Good luck.
 
You go PorkChop...BodybldgDoc, being a doctor or a dentist is about being a good listener and helper...it is about easing someone's pain...doctors who are genius but mean are definitely not needed...


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You really need to commit yourself into studying.
For the next whatever months you are studying, basically you need to wake up studying DAT, eat and play with DAT, go to bed studying DAT.

That's what I did for three months. I got to know people at the library so well because I was there all day until they closed.
Some days I was really focused, some days I felt like I just wasted my time.
No matter what I tried to put average 10 hours a day and at the end it all paid off.

You need to prioritize your life and commit yourself into studying DAT if you are really serious about it. If your GPA is 3.75, you have the brain...you just need a commitment and time to prepare.

Good luck!
 
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Okay, I looked at your past posts, and you've stated that you've taken the MCAT and scored an overall 19. On top of that, you took the DAT 3 times and scored an AA of 16 on your latest one. Also, you have a 3.75 GPA with a BA in biology. Was your BA in biology a degree for teaching biology? Usually, people get a BS in biology, not a BA. If that's the case, then your science courses were probably easier compared to most BS graduates.

Sorry to say it, but your outlook on going into some kind of professional health doesn't look so good. If you can't score well on either the MCAT or DAT, how are you going to get through Med/Dent school when you have your boards?

I think you have to focus on one test, and study the crap out of it. It wouldn't hurt if you took some upper-division science classes too. You have to make some changes in your study habits because they are not working for you right now.
 
You are going to have to put in that large amount of time like phraud said to in order to score high. The SDN community is supportive but there is a difference in encouraging someone and giving someone false hope. If you can't do spectacular and get into the mid to high 90 percentile on your fourth attempt than you should probably consider a different career. I wish you the best of luck.
 
Beyond studying more and buying more study materials, you may want to consider hiring a tutor, especially for QR. You scored 15 on QR three consecutive times, so you can obviously use a 2nd opinion on your math techniques.

If you work through several different types of math problems in front of a math tutor (especially a DAT or GMAT math tutor), he/she can show you the fast and efficient ways to solve the problems. I really think that 5 hours with a tutor will be more effective than 20 hours of studying QR on your own.
 
Hi folks, I REALLY appreciate your help on this.

Initially, I took the DAT twice. I got 1 interview only and was put on the waiting list. I thought I would take the DAT for the third time to increase my chance to get in especially after being on the wait-list for 6 months but my third scores were the worst, and finally I got rejected. Now I am applying for next year and was allowed to take the DAT one final time in December. How should I study?? I used Kaplan books for the first two attempts and Top-score + Kaplan for the third. How should I approach my last attempt??? here are my scores:

DAT 1:

PA 15
QR 15
RC 16
B: 17
GC 18
OC 15
TS17
AA 16

DAT 2:

PA 15
QR 15
RC 18
B: 21
GC 20
OC 19
TS 20
AA 19

DAT 3:

PA 18
QR 15
RC 13
B: 17
GC 19
OC 17
TS 18
AA 16

I've got B.A. in biology, GPA: 3.75.

Thank you so much:

I really wanna ask you this, what colleges did you apply to and which ones did you get the interview call from and which one put you on wait list? Please let me know. Also, where did you go to undergraduate? Hope to hear back from you soon. Good Luck 🙂
 
I'm not sure how much I can help, but you should already have a good idea of the real test. What it appears like to me is perhaps study skills? Maybe you should take the time to really understand the material and less pure memorizing. It's not a really difficult test if you put in the time. Just my .02


dude CONGRATS!!! that is awesome! pat yourself on the back. I also have my eyes on baylor!
 
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