DO or Stony Brook Med Guaranteed Admission Masters

[lolcat]

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i don't know anything about the stony brook "we're not accepting you for MD, yet" program. there are plenty of med schools that have private feeder programs for instaters who are borderline. that's the bread & butter of diversity recruiting.

with a 3.0 min performance i suspect the program is URM. when things sound too good to be true, check URM.

when programs claim an acceptance on the other side, check the fine print. get it in writing. hearsay is your enemy.

anecdote: one SMP that i know too well doubled its class size and threw away its reputation without telling the students who were accepted to the incoming class, until the first day of school, after many had moved cross country. don't let this happen to you.

the financial math for the OP's story works in SB's favor, even if 2 years are "lost" to future income. I'd recommend a gap year and a retry over $52k tuition regardless. better yet, go back in time and think about what you want and what things cost before you apply to expensive private DO schools in the first place.

lastly, y'all stop blathering about how hard or not hard it is to get from a DO school into a residency. it's adorable that premeds think IM is hard to get into. if you want to be a DO with a good residency, spend 20 hours studying for every 15 minutes you spend looking at current resident lists at residency programs in your specialty of interest. THERE ARE DOs ALMOST EVERYWHERE. Odds are good that a future DO will get your spot at the residency you want because he or she IS STUDYING HARDER THAN YOU ARE RIGHT NOW.

presumably this is a low GPA thread. you can't blame a DO school for limiting your chances if you get crap step scores and crap grades in med school. it doesn't matter if you are MD or DO: you won't match well with crap numbers. there are a whole lot of first year med students, MD and DO, who talk a whole lot of ortho and derm, and then they get real quiet after step 1.

Don't fear DO, fear your own future performance. DOs matched "MD" residencies at 79% this year. MDs and DOs who have aspirations proportional to their capabilities, don't have crap numbers, and apply broadly, are going to match. Be smart and fear your med school performance. An acceptance is not a gift. Med school is harder than you think.

best of luck to you.

im curious, is the program you're referring to EVMS medical masters?

 

[iniquus]

lastly, y'all stop blathering about how hard or not hard it is to get from a DO school into a residency. it's adorable that premeds think IM is hard to get into. if you want to be a DO with a good residency, spend 20 hours studying for every 15 minutes you spend looking at current resident lists at residency programs in your specialty of interest. THERE ARE DOs ALMOST EVERYWHERE. Odds are good that a future DO will get your spot at the residency you want because he or she IS STUDYING HARDER THAN YOU ARE RIGHT NOW.

It is true that overall IM is not competitive to match into. However, the top tier IM programs are competitive to match into and are highly sought after for those pursuing academic medicine or research careers. As of now, you will be hard-pressed to find DO students at these residencies, let alone, DO students who were granted interviews there. Look at their intern classes, and peruse the IM match threads for previous years and see that DO students with great applications appear to have a steep/impossible incline to these programs.

 

[ridethecliche]

The reason we're skeptical of the OP and @DoctorLacrosse 's posts is that this sounds way too good to be true. A 3.3 and a 500 (i.e. 24) are a joke for MD Apps.

I would read the fak out of the fine print here and ask them as many questions about this as possible before signing up for it. It really sounds too damn good to be true.

@DoctorLacrosse , aren't your stats higher than a 3.3 and a 24 already?

 

[235009]

The reason we're skeptical of the OP and @DoctorLacrosse 's posts is that this sounds way too good to be true. A 3.3 and a 500 (i.e. 24) are a joke for MD Apps.

I would read the fak out of the fine print here and ask them as many questions about this as possible before signing up for it. It really sounds too damn good to be true.

@DoctorLacrosse , aren't your stats higher than a 3.3 and a 24 already?

It's for URMs so totally plausible

 

[ridethecliche]

It's for URMs so totally plausible

Right, but at that baseline stat URM's would have a 30%ish chance to matriculate. Isn't the point of these programs to be a proving ground? Or are they identifying students to give them a head start on the curricula and redo material first year so they're ahead.

I suppose you're right, but I'm a bit shocked because this is essentially a post bacc ish program.

 

[DoctorLacrosse]

The reason we're skeptical of the OP and @DoctorLacrosse 's posts is that this sounds way too good to be true. A 3.3 and a 500 (i.e. 24) are a joke for MD Apps.

I would read the fak out of the fine print here and ask them as many questions about this as possible before signing up for it. It really sounds too damn good to be true.

@DoctorLacrosse , aren't your stats higher than a 3.3 and a 24 already?

I'll just post this here to quiet the doubters. looks like it is indeed to increase diversity in NY schools.

http://www.amsny.org/initiatives/diversity-medicine/post-baccalaureate-program

my stats are higher than those, but that required GPA is what you need in the masters program. and this is only available if you get no other MD acceptances

 

[ZedsDed]

 

[deleted158872]

Despite having 9 MD interviews, I have yet to get into any of them. I am waitlisted at 6 and waiting to hear back from a few

hopefully you'll get accepted into an MD school.
it's hard to believe you got that many interviews but no acceptance

 

[NonTradJp]

The situation describe sounds very good. I have heard of similar small programs. They are generally tough but if they give good support and tutoring then handwork will pull you through. My thinking is Med School is tough either way. So if you feel you can do med school then the 1 year program doesn't sound like it would be a problem. In terms of salary, you will lose a year but if SB is cheaper that makes a difference. Also the key is you already love SB so you know you will likely enjoy it there. That is important to success. I think that and the cheaper cost offsets the potential earnings. You could always retire later so that may not even matter.

So it looks like you plan to go to med school so you are working hard anyways and the money difference is small. So the question boils down to *** (SB-DO)x4 = or > 1 year wait ? ***. So assign a value to how much you like SB over DO then times that by 4. Is that value greater then wanting to be a doctor 1 year earlier.

 

[AnneShay]

Out of curiosity, what were your stats that Stony Brook recommended you to this program? My counselor was telling me about how a lot of NY schools have this type of program for URM/disadvantaged students who don't get in the first time.